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done the same thing for the 5th had one but instead of putting those stars in took apart a 200gram cake and took all the stars and flash and put that inside as well then Kraft paper wrapped it loud and very big symmetrical break beats any rocket since it costs less than a 10er to make and I know what I'm doing too

Yes exact same gearbox underneath.

Michael Rogers Yes about the same as a firehawk would. You can pretty much short stroke 2 teeth and the fps will not change. Which is always cool 😎

chris dermott Thanks man. Getting x9 soon but should be similiar.

chris dermott Could I get more joule creep with a non ported cylinder on this thing with .4g bbs?

Michael Rogers In theory yes. Although I'll not ask why you want to do that lol. Avoid the CA X9 if you haven't already pre-Ordered... It will be a terrible disappointment like everything else in the Classic Army line up.

chris dermott Well. Im a HPA guy but some fields are only chronoing hpa in joules and not aeg's. Can't beat em join em. The classic army is supposed to be betterish then arp9. The only thing they said to do if you want to upgrade is the gears in it. Ill also flat hop bla bla bla but i am going to take the risk as they have delayed the release multiple times to really make sure every thing works. Very strong gear box. Full metal. Ya, totally looking to get some creep in it if a non ported cylinder works. Probably won't weigh the piston as I dont want to crack anything but probably could a little bit.

11.11 Wouldn't worry too much about your barrel. Won't make much difference to accuracy. Main things/variables are: - Don't clean your barrel too often. If you get any kind of lubricant on the hop rubber, it will shoot all over the place for ages. - To clean a barrel properly, it needs to be removed from the hop chamber and rubber. - Try changing your hop rubber to say a Lonex/Ultimate 50 degree hop rubber. - Quality and weight of BB's. Make sure you use high quality pellets. Basically anything that says precision grade or highly polished. I recommend ARES Diamond Precision Grade or indeed G&G Precision Grade BB's. There is lots of brands of BB's that guys are using on the fields that i wouldn't touch. - Try moving up a weight in pellet. For example if you mainly use 0.20g, try 0.23g or if you use 0.23g, try using 0.25g. Much more consistency. If none of that works, try taking it to a local trusted tech. The ARP9 is capable of shooting just as far and accurate as the 556 straight out of the box.

Thanks for the infos , My arp9 is second hand but shoots just like i see in youtube videos so i am presuming it is ok I found in my research that the Arp9 barrel is 6.08 and the 556 is brass 6.03 , from watching videos the 556 IS more accurate but i can only find that the brass barrel is the only difference on internals between the 2 models. I will ring my local shop for advice tomorrow ,Thanks for your help

Ellis Brown. Hi there. I own an Airsoft Shop in Northern Ireland called Airsoft Workshop NI. You can find us on Facebook (group). I normally supply and fit for a customer, rather than just selling the parts. Mainly due to the fact that there is lots of modifications you have to make for it to run smoothly. (AoE correction, short stroking, swiss cheesing, shimming, motor height and fps adjustments.)

i see its a lot cheaper for me to get it done local because i live in Staffordshire and the shipping will cost too much. really like what youve done to the gun though.

jonny bravo. The IFRIT motor is certainly the fastest of the three. Good speed and decent torque. Would usually pair with 18/16:1 The SHS High Torque has decent speed and high torque. Would usually pair with 14/13:1 ZCI 22TPA has very high torque and the speed is quite low. Would usually pair with 13/12:1.

jonny bravo. Think it was: SHS steel tooth piston SHS 13:1 gearset 8mm bearings SHS Tappet delayer chip SHS high torque motor And then the usual aoe correction, short stroked piston and sector gear by 3 or 4 teeth, shimmed and lubed. I've since done lots of other builds for customers (not on RUclips) I find SHS 12:1 gearset paired with ZCI 22 TPA motor works wonders. Very very sharp trigger response and good rate of fire.

Legend, cheers for that 👍🏼

And the stock etu and mosfet hold up fine?

jonny bravo. Absolutely. The key is in the battery. 11.1v 20c.. No higher. If you get the gearbox running smooth and a very torquey motor... There should be no reason the ETU/Mosfet can't hold up just fine. I've seen guys doing builds with 12:1 gears paired with high speed motors (which have very low torque), 11.1v 40c/60c burst batteries, gearbox shimmed incorrectly, motor height wrong. That's a sure way to be buying another ETU/Mosfet. They are giving G&G rifles a bad name by inefficient builds :(

That's awesome to know I've got 2 g&g with etus I'm thinking of upgrading but had heard their etus were prone failure, good to know why they're failing. In the past I've opted for btcs and gate titans for any upgraded guns of mine, but the problem I have is I like having and gaming with multiple guns so upgrading each one gets expensive rather quickly when adding on the cost of one of these mosfets.thanks for the info greatly appreciated

Alejandro Martinez soler. You can indeed yes! :)

SparkyMTB SHS - 8mm bearings - SHS 16:1 gearset - SHS steel tooth piston - SHS high torque motor - SHS tappet delayer chip Mods: - Piston short stoked 2 teeth - Sector gear short stroked 2 teeth - AoE corrected with rubber damper - Shimmed - Lubed Results: 318 fps at 25 rounds per second Just a nice wee medium speed build. Didn't want to go to fast with it. Want to keep battery life and reliability high :) However if i was to build it again i would go shs 13:1 gearset, paired with a zci 22tpa motor and short stroked 1 more tooth. Would of gave much sharper results.

chris dermott wow that’s an amazing response 👍🏼 I wasn’t even expecting a reply let alone such a detailed one. I’ve currently got the ARP 556 & I’m looking into upgrade parts which is how I found your video. Thanks again for all the info, I’ve got plenty to research 😁👍🏼

Eliott Jordon. Hi Elliott. Built this for a customer. He paid £337 all in. That was gun, upgrade parts and labour. Any fps is possible. 11.1v lipo

Great thank you, I'll get back to you when another Airsoft gun become an option for me.

TBone Airsoft. Cheers man! Parts list for those interested: - G&G ETU/Mosfet - G&G G2 Short Pull Trigger - 8mm Bearings - ZCI 200mm 6.02 tightbore barrel - SHS 13:1 Ratio Gearset - SHS Steel Tooth Piston - SHS Tappet Delayer Chip - G&G 25k IFRIT Motor - FMA Stubby Suppressor Mods: - Piston Swiss Cheesed - AoE Corrected - Piston 2 tooth removed - Piston Short Stroked 4 teeth - Sector Gear Short Stroked 4 teeth - Shimmed - Lubed - Motor spade connectors crimped - Mosfet heat shrink Performance: Feet Per Second = 325/328 Rounds Per Second = 30.4

chris dermott wont the gg mosfets have a problem over time. thats at least what i have heard. i just finished building a dsg with an ace tech mosfet and it seemed to work good.

TBone Airsoft. There is actually no faults with G&G mosfets. The issue is with guys running over 25c+ lipos and pulling the trigger waaaaay too hard and damaging the ETU button itself. I have installed a different style g2 trigger which makes mashing the button near impossible. As of yet i have never seen a failure that hasn't been caused by user themselves :)

TBone Airsoft. Hi there. Unfortunately my shop is based in Northern Ireland, so may not be very financially viable option for you :(

chris dermott dang dude that sucks. it nice to see that airsoft is all over the world😂👍. i actually have an airsoft friend who lives and plays in ireland!

Jake Kowask Yes normal v2 gearbox Jake.

Jake Kowask. I have ARP9 in stock of you are from UK. Search 'Airsoft Workshop NI' on Google.

Eli Wilton It's actually just a screw on 14mm ccw suppressor, rather than an integral/integrated one. Just swapped it with the flash hider

Eli Wilton. I built it from parts. I own an Airsoft shop in Northern Ireland. Airsoft Workshop NI

Fetuss John Parts list: SHS 8mm bearings SHS 16:1 gearset SHS steel tooth piston SHS high torque motor SHS tappet delayer chip Mods: - Piston short stoked 2 teeth - Sector gear short stroked 2 teeth - AoE corrected with rubber damper - Shimmed - Lubed Results: 318 fps at 25 rounds per second Just a nice wee medium speed build. Didn't want to go to fast with it. Want to keep battery life and reliability high :) I own an Airsoft Shop in Northern Ireland. If you live local or within posting distance.. Hit me up and i can do the work :)

What spring strength?

gregory sterkenburg Standard spring that comes in UK models. Think it's an M125 possibly? Has a full port cylinder and a very short barrel to compensate for lack of barrel compression. So even when short stroking 1 or 2 teeth it doesn't lose much, if any fps. If you were to run a slightly longer barrel into stubby suppressor the fps would jump up about 55/60. Which means you could run a slightly weaker spring for even sharper trigger response and rate of fire.

In hindsight. This was a shs 16:1 ratio gearset and shs high torque motor (16tpa) build. SHS 13:1 ratio gear set... Paired with a ZCI 22tpa motor might be an even better choice. Even sharper trigger and probably slightly cooler running motor.

Hi John , im living in uk london, are you able to do to my gun, and how much do you charge?

Jake Stapleton Cylinder has plenty of volume to put in a longer barrel. Very similar set up to a firehawk spring/cylinder wise. Over volumed i would say even with a longer barrel. You can get away with short stroking 2 teeth with little to no affect to fps which is cool. Just bare in mind that the fps will go up crazy high with a longer barrel, especially a tightbore. Which again i guess is a good thing as you can use a weaker main spring for even sharper trigger response, higher rate of fire and better battery life. For perfect Inner barrel length.. Just measure original and add that to the length of your suppressor to see what you can work with to keep it hidden. Also if you are putting in a weaker main spring, short stroking or changing the motor...always add a tappet delayer chip onto your sector gear. That way you will have no feeding issues.

Ganchy Yep just a normal V2 gearbox with ETU/Mosfet :)

Hell yea man, I know what my next gun is gonna be. :D

Ganchy. Buy the 1500 round drum mag for it also. Best purchase you'll ever make lol. If you live in the UK or Ireland. Search 'Airsoft Workshop NI' and join the group. I own a shop and can post if required when the time comes for your purchase :)

Search on Facebook by the way!

I live in the US but I was definitely planning on picking up the drum. Is it electric winding or a flash mag? I haven't found any info on that yet.

Mouse Potato Sorry for delay in replying. Im sure you've worked it out by now but will answer anyway for other people watching. The amplifier screws off clockwise. Righty loosy, lefty tighty. Opposite of normal things in the world. Hope this helps... Cheers

Right, but is there some kind of screw you have to remove first? Because I don't see one. I've heard that a drill might be needed. Can you clarify?

Mouse Potato. ARP9 has no grub screw or anything. Amplifier literally just screws off clockwise. Should be super easy. Unless you are in the US with an orange tip. They may of glued it on or something but definitely no screws

Ah, yeah I'm in the US so it has an orange tip. Where there'd normally be a grub screw, there's just a plastic dowel that appears to be glued into place. I may have to drill it out :(

Also, what batteries does it take? I would have thought the stock was too short to take 102mm length batteries?

The Lost Reverend. Hi there. Yes absolutely go for the 556 model. It's a myth in airsoft the short barrelled weapons do not shoot as far. I have stocked hundreds of different types in my shop the past few years and the firehawk, arp9 and 556 shoot just as far and just as accurate. Just make sure your hop is set right and as high quality pellets as you can find. You'll be laughing :)

Thanks for the quick reply, I've run a G&P M4 Baby Monster in the past which I think is a 165mm inner, never rated the accuracy though!

Could you answer a couple more questions? Sorry for asking but these things never have easy to find specs this early on! Is the motor type short or long for this rifle? (Guessing long as usually, always want to be sure) Is it worth replacing the bucking etc? What gearset does it come with? I assume by the out the box 330-350fps it has a m100 included, or are we looking at m90 with a good hop set and piston head?

The Lost Reverend. Uses a long type motor. A good upgrade motor would be the SHS high torque long type but not essential. They all seem to be shooting about 320/325 fps out of the box. Since the barrel in so short they have to over compensate with a stronger spring. It's closer to an m115. If you put in an extended barrel along the fps would jump up to 380 ish.

Probably an 11.1 lipo

Yes 11.1

darragh tynan Hello again. SHS 8mm bearings SHS 13:1 Ratio Gearset SHS 14 tooth piston SHS High Torque Motor SHS Tappet Delayer Chip And then obviously a stronger spring to offset short stroking, correct angle of engagement, shim new gears, short stroke piston and sector gear by 3 or 4 teeth. Those mods are essential for high rate of fire builds to work correctly. Depending on what gun you put that lot into, it would run somewhere between 27 - 30 rounds per second. Assuming it had mosfet and 11.1v lipo.

Sturmgewehr Gaming.. Haven't tried and tested yet. But i would assume it would be the same as UMP, MP5, Thompson, MP40 ect.

I couldn't find any pouches that fit these huge ass apr9 mags, so I use normal m4 mags with a hole on the pouch cover so i can slide my apr magazines in.

darragh tynan I'm a retailer and also an airsoft tech.. so not too much haha. This particular model in store is £190 and the upgraded version in the video is £310 (£80 parts/£40 labour)

keeper Schrub Parts list: SHS 8mm bearings SHS 16:1 gearset SHS steel tooth piston SHS high torque motor SHS tappet delayer chip Mods: - Piston short stoked 2 teeth - Sector gear short stroked 2 teeth - AoE corrected with rubber damper - Shimmed - Lubed Results: 318 fps at 25 rounds per second Just a nice wee medium speed build. Didn't want to go to fast with it. Want to keep battery life and reliability high :)

Thanks! :D

How much did that cost you?