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Searching for Ancient Ruins near Sedona, Arizona
ArizonaRuins Archaeology Adventure Club. Episode 2: Searching for and exploring ancient Sinagua cliff dwellings in the Secret Mountain Wilderness near Sedona, Arizona. For more info go to www.ArizonaRuins.com
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An ancient pictograph site in the Secret Mountain Wilderness, near Sedona, Arizona.
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ArizonaRuins Archaeology Adventure Club. Episode 1: A Pictograph Site near Sedona, Arizona. For more info go to www.ArizonaRuins.com.
Have you been to Enkis throne out on the east side? And have you noticed the triangle that points to the mine in Jerome? The canyons carved around it are all the same width coincidentally. NNW of enchantment
No, I haven't seen those. Maybe I'll take a look some day. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks a lot
Been there done that pretty cool😊
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Great stories and scenery. Thanks!
So fascinating, them pore people sure had it rough living like that 1000 Year's ago. Mind blowing how fare man has come just in the last 200 years! Great video thank you for sharing it!
I m glad they are well hidden.👍
Looks like a nice mix of pictographs and petroglyphs
Absolutely amazing find!! You guys were so calm.
This is truly a fantastic video, loved this and the other one. It's amazing how virtually every rock overhang has a structure in it, and there is rock art everywhere, incredible! The scenery is gorgeous as well and I just love seeing these amazing ancient sites, I'm glad many of them are at least somewhat well preserved and untouched by vandals. Love the channel, I really hope you upload some more videos, it's such great content! Thanks for sharing!
As much as I love this video I almost want to ask you to remove it. There are a bunch of shit heads going around all of the ancient sites in Arizona and writing/painting graphic on them.. I can only pray that one day I’ll find these guys out there spray painting on our ancient walls and show them exactly what happens to assholes like that, but the reality is that most people who do things like that will never get caught so we just have to do our part to keep hidden gems like this hidden
I share your concern. You will note that I don't reveal the canyon name or location in the video, other than it's in the Sedona area. At one point I was a member of the Arizona Site Stewards, a state-sponsored organization that tries to keep an eye on remote archeological sites like this one, to prevent looting and vandalism. But with the ubiquity of the Internet, keeping these sites a secret seems like a losing battle.
@@ArizonaRuins Yes sir I sure do note that and thank you for doing so! I've followed your channel for years and love the videos you put out, so please don't take my comment as a disrespectful attempt to stop you from doing the things you love. It just saddens me to see what a select few of idiots will do to such pristine and archeological sites. Thank you for replying and I hope you are still out there getting it!
This feels like a lifetime ago. I'm ready to go back.
Me too. This was almost ten years ago, and I still get a chuckle every time I watch it. Good times.
The amazing loy canyon 🤠
You guys are graceful. What a great hobby
great job guys!
Y'all did this the hard way.
It was like I was there. Thanks guys.
RED ROCK "SECRET MOUNTAIN"... there ya go for anyone who wants to know but hates losers who try to keep places to themselves
Not sure what you're getting at. "Red Rock Secret Mountain Wilderness" is the official USDA Forest Service name for the area. You can find it on a map. I don't reveal the exact location because well-publicized sites tend to get destroyed fairly quickly by vandalism , looting and graffiti. Plus, sleuthing out where they are is half the fun!
@@ArizonaRuins dude its on the az national forest site lmao... that's sluething?? i could find it right now online hahaha
This is exactly the show im looking for. Very crazy area. Thank you 😃. I figure if im getting the boot from my house only about 1700 mls from Calgary too Arizona ,,, ill just walk over there
Glad you liked it. New one coming soon (or at least eventually).
Thank you for not disclosing the location! It’s beautiful and remains so without tourists ✊✨❤️
You're welcome. Unfortunately, I think the secret is starting to get out. I was back there in 2019, and in the six years between then and when this video was made I noticed some marked deterioration. I didn't see any new graffiti, but there was trash, and a lot of new "social trails." In this age of the internet and social media, I'm not sure how we protect remote sites like this one.
Fantastic video! Thank you!
Beautiful place to see. New friend here. See you around
I know its all about dramatic affect but those ruins are very easily entered from the south end, (or your left when facing them), and you had to see them from above when you hiked over to them... (not the big surprise of repelling over a cliff and seeing them for the first time.). I grew up there... 50 years of hiking that country so I do know what I'm talking about.
I personally knew the Loy's whom that area was named for... They are long since passed away.
@@JTom-cg8vs Cornville local 🤙
It could have been easier to get to... but not near as fun!
I have lived off Grid between Snowflake an Holbrook for 25 years on 20 acres. Their are Anasazi sites everywhere. Even on the property.. its a magical feeling finding new sites. I have never dug into any of the sites.. because of having a mutual respect the spirits would bless us with a gift from time time. Its a wonderful life here among the ruins an canyons. Exploring the canyons with incredible petroglyphs etched on the canyon walls. Walking thru the ruin sites were the pottery shards lay untouched for thousands of years. God is Great. The wilderness settings were these places are an our home is.. remind us how Awesome our creator is an the blessings he bestows upon us are beyond words.. its unbelievably Awesome.
Right on brother🙏
Fascinating to say the least! Those people had it rough and difficult life to say the least! Thank you for sharing your testimony! Blessings from the most high God Elyon Adonai
Very fine video - quality camera work, good pace, great images. Thanks!
Has any of these typically white unauthorities ever bother to ask an Indian person anything about these?
Of course we've asked them--why would anyone think we hadn't? Much of what we know about the interpretation of petroglyphs and pictographs comes from discussions with local Native Americans.
12000 years ago the last cleansing. As always, comes another. What was the purpose for living in cliff dwellings? Protection from other tribes? Why do you need protection from your own family? Ask yourselves just exactly why the theives theive? They hurt children. They commit murder only for their own gain. How is it that you all could believeyour brother sand sisters are your enemy? What do you really fear? 12000 years ago as every 12000 to 14000 years it comes. The Great warrior will do battle again. Surely those thieves and murderers have room for you in their bunkers?
wonder what that fu stood for at 4:34 above the flute player
If u ever take a trip to Europe, I hope u will post some videos about some of the ancient European ruins that can be found all over the mountain and hill sides there. There many European ruins to be walked around inside of and explored. Just about everywhere u go in Europe u can discover the ruins. There are many European ruins all over Europe.
In the name Sinagua, the G is silent, as in the Spanish word for water, Agua= pronounced Ah'wah. Thus, Sinagua is pronounced Seen ah'wah. It was the name given by the Spanish for the people without water: the name contained the word for water.
Actually in the word "agua" the g is not silent at all. Ask as many Latinos from as many different Spanish speaking countries as you need to for confirmation.
:Not supposed to go inside of the ruins friend.
why?????
In Spanish then, Sinagua is pronounced Sen ah' wah, the G is silent, just as with Saguaro, Sah war oh, Sah wor oh, two phonetic spellings for the same sound.
can I join you guys?
Back in the day, we used to to take anyone who wanted to go. But the team's sort of broken up, and it's been a while since I've been on one of these. Getting old I guess. Sorry.
Roger, why don't you ask the poster to mentor you in beginning your own exploratory group, always being respectful of the landscape, of course. I would imagine the poster has much to share about the methods of discovery and getting there, about cartography, and things we haven't even thought of. Likely a wealth of information, the poster might make a good mentor for you starting your own team. :)
thank you
ArizonaRuins How do we know that some of those weren't made by a disrespectful modern visitor with a stick of white chalk? Or the crude charcoal drawings over the top of the older, defacing historic evidence? I find it hard to believe that older civilizations would have drawn over the top of previous and more ancient pictographs. With the size of the rock wall being what it is, I believe they would have chosen another spot, rather than draw over the top of them. That sounds more like a disrespectful modern arrogant fool's action.
Well, there certainly is some modern graffiti there, as you can see from the video. I suppose it's possible someone would go to the trouble of faking some pictographs, but that seems unlikely. The only way to tell for sure would be by testing the age of the pigments using, for example, carbon-14 dating or some other cosmogenic dating technique. As far as I know, no one has done that for this site. As for ancient peoples being more respectful of each other's art, I don't think we can make that conclusion. There's no reason to think the prehistory around there was any less chaotic than in, say, Europe during the middle ages. Different groups came and went all the time, and may have had a poor opinion of--or great antipathy toward--those they replaced. Thanks for taking the time to write though. I'm working on more videos to post shortly.
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad you'll have new videos soon; I noticed you only had 2. I did post this one to my large Arizona playlist; I would have rather posted the other, but it had some foul language that I didn't want in my family-friendly playlist. I've been including only quality and clean pieces for the viewing pleasure of those that love Arizona or that want to learn more about this amazing region. I know that you were surprised when you looked down to see the cliff-dwelling, but in the future, thanks for remembering the word " Wow", as opposed to those words not appropriate for children's ears. I'm sure there will be many that will truly enjoy your interesting videos.
@@ArizonaRuins - Pictographs are very hard to fake - the original artists used powdered minerals for colors and binders like animal fat and plant oils. Modern jackasses with chalk and charcoal would make images that have zero patina and wash right off. Not saying it can't be done, but assholes and vandals tend to be both dumb and lazy...
@@ArizonaRuins - As for indigenous people putting images on top of older images - it's been done all through time and all over the world. The ancients didn't necessarily think as we do - putting your image over another needn't be disrespectful at all - it might be a way showing deep respect, in fact, a form of communicating with those long gone, or a way of drawing power from older images - since most places where there are images were thought to be places of power to begin with...
GREAT MUDFOSSILS TOO
Looks like an area where Walter White would set up his meth lab
Thanks for that truly brilliant comment...
Absolutely beautiful!🌷I miss Arizona...
Great Video guys
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Great Video Thank you . Hey did I see the word Bubba when you first got there ? The first views when you started getting close ?
I didn't see 'Bubba,' but it may be there. There is fair amount of graffiti there, some of it quite old. For example, at 4:30 you can see the name 'Purtymun' in the upper right. The Purtymuns were an historic Oak Creek family, who circa 1896, built a trail that still bears their name from Oak Creek Canyon up to the Mogollon Rim. You can find their names carved into ruins and rocks all over the Sedona area.
Great info The Arizona Ruins Team know Things ! Thanks again
Thank you so much for sharing this. It was absolutely amazing. I’m always looking for new areas to explore.
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I went to see some near Tucson in 1997 and somebody spray painted a 10 foot purple dick with balls over top of the glyphs and wrote "suck it" in 5 foot letters under it.
Awesome find. Great video.
Absolutely fascinating would love to see more of your adventures, and a wonder how many other undiscovered places there is out there, take care Liam 😉
I love the this video wow amazing......would love to visit Sinagua.
That's cool
Isn't picking up artifacts illegal? Do you have special privileges? Should I notify the authorities?
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Been there many times, easy to get to without rappelling ....
Been there many times. Just up the main valley there is a nice cliff dwelling up on the left side...
You should check out the second video in the series: "Searching for Ancient Ruins near Sedona, Arizona." Let me know if that's the one you are talking about.
What trail is this at I live near Sedona love our native history here in Arizona.
@@alanfelix527 Time after time...these people posting these vids will tempt you with interesting content...and never reveal where they were....
@@ArizonaRuins The past several years all the idiots have been creating their own pictographs all around the ancient ones, kind of ruined the positive energy there...
Pretty amazing! Was so sure someone was gonna fall & break a leg. Outlaws use to hide out in some of those cliff dwellings so maybe that's why they r picked clean. W/all the thousands of visitors,hikers & resellers I'm sure this sites have been discovered over & over.