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Quiescent Current
Добавлен 28 мар 2020
About the little things in Electronics.
"No data" data cable tested and compared to a "200%" data cable
Interesting cable from "KabelKraft" that is advertised as not having data connections and how it compares to a regular cable from the same manufacturer.
The cable tester featured is from here: ble.caberqu.com
#electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
The cable tester featured is from here: ble.caberqu.com
#electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
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Видео
BLE caberQU app look and feel
Просмотров 912 месяца назад
ble.caberqu.com Link to the Kickstarter campaign A quick look and feel of the BLE caberQU Android and iOS app. #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
BLE caberQU overview to test 5 different cables
Просмотров 2432 месяца назад
ble.caberqu.com Link to the Kickstarter campaign An interesting comparison of five different USB-C cables with vastly different specs. #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
Massively overspeced cable with "10A" rating
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Really interesting cable, I would love to know why it came into being. The cable tester featured is from here: ble.caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
Cheapest USB-C cables from Amazon & Aliexpress
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Are these cables even worth anything or should you leave them be? The cable tester featured is from here: caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
Solving the the hex key riddle
Просмотров 833 месяца назад
There is a reason for the little M2x2 screw being in place and a short video is better than a thousand words. The cable tester featured is from here: caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension #caberQU
Lithium battery charger not built up to spec results in it not working with USB-C cables
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There is a reason for the USB-C standard being as complicated as it is, and we can see that missing two resistors can result in cables not working at all. The cable tester featured is from here: caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension
USB-C extensions are not allowed for a reason
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There is a reason for USB-C extensions not to be part of the standard. They can be bothersome in the best case and dangerous in the worst. The cable tester featured is a prototype from here: ble.caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #extension
Why are some USB-C adapters allowed and others not?
Просмотров 1 тыс.3 месяца назад
A look into four different USB-C adaptors. Two male-male/plug-plug and two female-female/socket-socket The cable tester featured is a prototype from here: ble.caberqu.com #electronic #usb #usbc #cable #eMarker #adapter
Apple USB-C cables tested #USB-eMarker
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Three different apple cables tested. USB-C cables are generally not marked, but play a crucial role in the transmission of power or data from and to your device. Without knowing, your phone could take ages to transmit data, your laptop can not charge or something else. The cable tester featured is a prototype from here: ble.caberqu.com There is a reason why your cable has some active electronic...
Why use a dedicated USB-C cable tester?
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Why use a dedicated USB-C cable tester?
Why USB-C cables have chips inside that can talk to your phone
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Why USB-C cables have chips inside that can talk to your phone
Good German brands are no more, adapter is missing a pin
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Good German brands are no more, adapter is missing a pin
Why your HDMI cable may be worse than others
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Why your HDMI cable may be worse than others
The good, the bad and the ugly types of USB-A to USB-C cables #shorts
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The good, the bad and the ugly types of USB-A to USB-C cables #shorts
The good, the bad and the ugly types of USB-A to USB-C cables
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The good, the bad and the ugly types of USB-A to USB-C cables
Minimal hardware to get power and data to a USB-C device
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Minimal hardware to get power and data to a USB-C device
Minimal hardware to get power and data to a USB-C device #shorts
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Minimal hardware to get power and data to a USB-C device #shorts
8 USB adaptor megalomania - can they charge?
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8 USB adaptor megalomania - can they charge?
USB voltage, current & power capabilities - 2.5W to 100W and why CC pins are necessary in USB-C
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USB voltage, current & power capabilities - 2.5W to 100W and why CC pins are necessary in USB-C
Micro USB adaptors not working on all devices
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Micro USB adaptors not working on all devices
Three different USB cables tested on the A2C caberQU
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Three different USB cables tested on the A2C caberQU
Unpacking the C2C caberQU v3 with manual
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Unpacking the C2C caberQU v3 with manual
Quick glance at the A2C caberQU - USB-A to USB-C cable tester
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Quick glance at the A2C caberQU - USB-A to USB-C cable tester
Four different USB-C cables tested on the C2C caberQU
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Four different USB-C cables tested on the C2C caberQU
Can you suggest an only data transfer cable one that doesn't support PD, how can I extend my USB C type hub that has 10Gbps rating? The cable is very short. I want to use Docking hub with my PC Desktop as well as with Macbook. Thank you.
Why the gloves?
Are the CC1 and CC2 pins exposed on the connector, can we solder the resistor ourselves?
Good idea, not sure if it is feasible though..
I need that tester 😭 On another subject, when will those cable makers switch to ultra flexible silicone instead of the braided stuff ??
There actually are silicone isolated cables, I haven't seen any with reasonable data speeds though.
Your are right, using an extension with a powerful chip with a different cable is dangerous, extensions shouldn't have any chips. On the other hand, properly used short extensions from the same maker and the same "grade" (grade is a big word here.. whatever they decided to use in china..), will not cause any issue UNLESS you go beyond the longest cable of that "collection". Also I would not suggest to use any of those chinesium cable over 50% of their described capacity. I use a short 2ft "extension" with everything like handheld, tablet or laptop as a quick disconnect safety in case something happen and the cable get pulled. Once again it is based on common sense, and as we know 99% don't understand that. So you are right do not use extension cable.
I have some of those female C to C adapter [mostly PANEL versions] they work quite nice, but I won't be using it for anything higher than 12V 2A.
Probably the best idea ;)
@@quiescentcurrent they do have some use, though it rarely happens that I need them, last time I needed one was to force a tablet in bootloader modus, by NERFING a cable to oblivion, so it had barely enough power to boot, but not enough to quickcharge it. had to use like 2+ cables, and 5+ adapters, to kill off any quick-charge feature, and make the cable 5M long.
The rest of testers are USB port testers, not for testing cables.
Nice. But only USB-C. I need also USB-A slot.
Thanks! There is in fact a tester for USB-A to USB-C cables called A2C caberQU. Those cables are much simpler as there is no eMarker inside and no option for USB4
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the wattage listed on the cable the maximum rated wattage for the cable? I assume when you use a usb cable (male to male or male to female and either usb a or c) to charge a device or transfer data etc, depends on the maximum output wattage of the usb port and how much power the connected device draws from the usb.
Yes, the power listed always is the maximum rated and the connected devices have to negotiate the actual power draw. If the cable doesn't support it, it can be a limiting and unseen factor though.
thank you very much for the test and the great video 💪
Really great content! Thank you very much!
wont send to Brazil....
It does, not not worry ;D
@@quiescentcurrent I just tried. sites does not work, and there's a conflict between kickstarter and the site.
I don’t know why doesn’t the algorithm recommend this video to anyone, because this video was good! Nice insights!
Thanks!
I got here from a YT recommendation
100%
Some phone PPS charger can offer over 5A, but probably this cable is ordinary f a k e
Most certainly yes
Thank you for both of the walkthroughs. Very interesting product. I still find myself needing a similar capability for USB A to USB C cables. Do you think a male C to female A adapter will work on this device, and therefore allow A to C cables to be tested?
Adapters are always thins kind of weird. Some of them feature internal resistors, some are out of spec and generally their behavior can not be guaranteed. There is a simpler version, the A2C caberQU for testing USB-A to USB-C cables though.
do current lenovo thinkpad power supply usb C (symmetric round) need the negotiating "PD" chip on the connector end, or are the red, blue, ground wires connected straight through ?
You still need an IC to do the PD negotiations, it can be integrated into the power supply though.
I suspect the "emarker" chip should be connected to blue wire inside the power supply ? are there any usb C connectors that accept only 2 wires red thick, blue thin coming from the power supply ? my guess is to connect red to A4 vbus and blue to A5 cc1
First...lol jk, app looks nice,
It actually is
Where to buy?
ble.caberqu.com
Project is live on Kickstarter right now: www.kickstarter.com/projects/electr/ble-caberqu-a-digital-usb-c-to-usb-c-cable-tester?ref=cz4ynk
Yeah that's the thing with Apple. They sell the charging cable as USB-C, but they also sell a much more expensive data cable which is Thunderbolt. That one does support those standards as well as USB 40 Gbps iirc. I guess the main advantage is you know you're getting a quality cable at high prices whereas although you might get a cable rated to do USB 3 or 4 data as well as high charging wattage from some random gobbledygook Chinese brand for a low price, it could just as easily be a scam.
More info what can do this ?
Nice tool. I am waiting for it to become available. Great explanation but would be better if you compared it to a known good cable with echips Thanks and Take Care.
link for the cable tester? i can't find it on their website
Starting next week: ble.caberqu.com
Just cheap, i thing 480mb/s is on some usbc
Indeed, USB-C cables actually don't need any data transmission capabilities.
Very, very good explanation and video altogether. I'm hobbyist in electronics but to the very entry level and I have a very peculiar question. I have a usb-c hub with SD card reader, HDMI, Display Port and USB -A2 and A3, then this connected to a tablet, with the idea of a desktop experience through Samsung Dex interface, so I can use a second screen. This second screen (display) might need or not its own power supply depending of duration of use or certain apps demand. This is not a problem for me since most of the use would be on a desktop with ready power available. Now the problem begins with the hub/dongle being left connected, might be because the hub USB-C (DP) is a dual role face port (not sure) and allows for current to withdraw from tablet to hub when the hub's power supply is off and since this has no on/off switch it will drain the tablet's battery really fast. Turning the tablet off (OS) is an inconvenience so I decided to dissect the cable and put a switch on the VBUS connector (red wire). This solved the battery draining, but some how the devices are communicating to each other still. This bring another problem, if someone calls me or text me or somehow the tablet's screen wakeup, it won't go back to off, it just dimms out like when before it goes to turn off but stays dimmed and as result will drain battery fast too. The key is that even if the Vbus is off (disconnected) if I pull out the USB-c plug or put it back in the tablet's port, the tablet will show a brief notification saying external screeen connected/disconnected.. Here is the question: What other wire I need to put in a switch to stop the table to talk to the hub, untill I connected with the switch? Vcomm (yellow), CC1, SBU1,D- (white) or D+ (green)? This cable is full featured also has 4 high speed differential shielded wires for video, I guess.
What wire do you think I would have to cut?
Great explantation, thank you for this video!
At first I wasn't sure why it might be a problem, but then when you explained that one identifier would be read, that made sense. I do have an extension cable, but I only power devices up to 67 watts and both cables are rated for that. I'll be sure in the future if I ever really need one, and can't get a cable long enough already, to make sure the capability is equivalent for each.
Surely, the non-conformant M-M connector has a role in testing the extension cable you used, as it wouldn't cause misrepresentation of the capabilities ( as the compliant one presented the cable as USB4). Or have I missed the point? Great video by the way, very helpful.
Good point, I've tested everything beforehand in different combinations and it was working as shown
great video! I'd really like to know how does xiaomi turbo charge works with that usb a middle pin included in their cables, supplying up to 120w
That's most certainly a non-standard implementation and therefore unfortunately defined by the manufacturer alone
@@quiescentcurrent funny thing is, it's implemented on my usb charging tester too, only the middle pin of the 5 is implemented unfortunately my tester lacks usb-c, and it seems like sth more than a male to female and female to male usb-c_usb-a converters are needed might need to design a pcb to adapt it, still cheaper than buying sth like a fnirst tester
@@parsipax6337 USB-C is a lot more complex than the others, but there is a tester for that: ble.caberqu.com
4th pin in micro and mini usb was been used to switch microusb socket to host mode. If device detect conection between 4th and groud (5ht pin), switch on 5V on pin 1, and switch to host mode. Mosf offen used on smartpnones before usb-c
how can get one tester
It still is in pre-sale right now: ble.caberqu.com/
@@quiescentcurrent price
Thanks for the info. But, for the red USB3 cable, why does the "emarker info" mention USB4 if the "available options" doesn't. Very confusing.
That's a good question, the USB PD reply can include "[USB 3.2]/[USB4] Gen2" and be interpreted differently depending on the other cable parameters
Cool video, and a very good explanation for someone who is not familiar with the soldering process. Thanks for sharing!
How does it know which end is DFP and supply power is it always the Type-A ? Is there a chip that determines that in the cable ?
A USB-A connector always is DFP by definition, the USB-C indicates itself as UFP via the resistors lighting up the CC2 LED on the A2C caberQU. If this resistor is missing in the cable, the device you want to charge will not recognize it as a charging port.
@@quiescentcurrent Thanks for the info!
So, as I understood the problem was in USBC->MicroUSB adapter. It doesn't have internal pulldown resistors Rd which are required to advertise itself as an upstream facing port (UFP). Am I right?
Thanks for your videos about USB-C. They really cleared a lot of things for me.
How do you interpret the results?
That's a good question, there is a manual supplied, which describes the valid combinations
I have a usb-C cable from a broken 20V 3.25A laptop charger. It only has 3 wires: Red blue and black. How could it communicate the 20V 3.25 A capability with just one CC wire and no active chip?
In case it only has one end with a USB-C connector while the other being permanently connected to the charger only one is needed. This is due to the second CC line normally being used as supply for the eMarker.
"Dater" 🤣
at 3m30 your about to say D+ D- are not connected but the c2c caber is lighting them up as your saying it.
Good call, the D+ and D- pins are twice in the connector for backwards compatibility with other connectors and only one pair can be used at a time.
Excellent explanation! I recently bought a cable tester and the presence of one or both CC pins was a bit confusing. You cleared it up. Thank you!
I hope not Hama 😮
Would be great idea to have a tester like that, whick can connect to phone or laptop and export supported protocols in some format. So you can use this to pront a label for that tested cable
There is something like this in the pipeline, right on point ;)
🥤i have to get something to drink to finish watching this video
3d printer, screaming in the background 🤓
can you tell somthing? we all are noe tech guys,.......if you tell then somthing, your subcriber will 10 times more
why so expensive, just a coin battery and some leds..... 30euro for a C2C tester with no case.... that is too much.
The best reviews/demonstrations are always those where everything including the camera is fighting you yet its still a great video and device. Servus von Oberösterreich.
i have a issue now with my kingston sxs2000 4 tb , i was for 2 month using new usb kabel from amazon its flexibel 10 cm kabel its work fine but now my ssd freezing and not reading files i was thinking my ssd broken then i use some diffrent thunderbolt 4 kabel its work fine again no idea why its is so
Welcome to the 21 century. Cant trust no one.