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I was a gifted kid who looked young for their age. Evryone treated me like i was a naive kid and it drove me nuts.

Often, the gifted as adults easily become criminalized as the beginning of to become frustrated with society to stand up or advocate for themselves with the passion and their lived experience. I would suggest that half of the treats to harm others or self, that lead to the police being called (weaponized criminalization), are often gifted people who are sick and tired of the dross and frustrations in their interactions with others. Most of society have been trained to like statistics and citations, yet giftedness is an eye test thing. It’s like seeing an athlete who just feels like the finished article versus the average well trained athlete. The eye test, over and over, tells us that gifted people often get criminalized as adults.

I scored genius on two IQ tests during my 8th grade year of 1980/1981 when I was 14. My grades took a dive during the school year as my parents were divorcing and selling our 500 acre dairy farm, a farm that I thought i was going to live my whole life on and eventually inherit, as one of my brothers told me because I was the youngest. My dad then quickly remarried in the summer of 1981 and moved to the other side of the world to Victoria Australia with his new, much younger wife. My family split into two different camps after the divorce. I stayed in Minnesota with my mom who bought a house in Rochester Mn. I had at least 4 traumas up to age 8 and was diagnosed with stomach ulcers in 2nd grade around 1975. One of those traumas was around age 5 being with my parents when we found a suicide. I then got a tick bite between 1981 and 1983, which wasn’t diagnosed as chronic Lyme disease until 2013 when I was 46. Back to the early 1980’s after I scored genius on two IQ tests my mom said “oh I have a son who is a genius, so he should be a 4.0 student”. And she began pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing me to the point I couldn’t stand it anymore. So I made a decision that wasn’t mature, but was what I could think of and that was to sandbag my grades to show her that she couldn’t control me. She was so bothered that she talked to the minister of the wacko end times focused church ran by Herbert W Armstrong. The minister then talked to me saying that I should at least try to get a C average. I failed every class in my 1st semester junior year. I had to take summer school classes after my junior year and one short summer class after my senior year as I was 1/4 credit short of 15-1/4 credits. I wasn’t allowed to be in my classes graduation which I was mad about so I stayed home. My mom several times said that she was going to go out and get drunk when I finally graduate,,, she doesn’t drink. I got my diploma January 1986 after my next older brother and I returned from a 4 month trip to Australia, around 2 months of it with my dad. I think that my mom had no clue how depressed I was and how much she irritated me. Her and I have opposite personalities. While in Australia from August through November 1985 my dad insulted me by saying “I don’t believe that you graduated”. He then repeated those words to me in an email around 5-6 years ago. My dad passed January 5th 2023. I’m sad to say that I have not been close to either of my parents. My mom is still with us, she’s 88 years old. I think my mom has never accepted how independent of a personality that I have. She’s very controlling.

1. Cognitive complexity; 2. Emotional sensitivity; 3. Heightened imagination; 4. Magnified sensations; 5. Pressure for action.

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The never ending to do list - called me out here.

My oldest was tested for autism at age 6. The psychologist told us that while he tested at 110 iq, she explained this is the minimum because he is clearly extremely intelligent but could not answer her questions in a way that she was allowed to mark as correct.

I watch this eight years late, being vaguely annoyed if not angry, as I see how different my life could have been. I was told to shut up, stop asking questions, and then I was harassed once I proved I was good at something. In my case physics. I stopped trying at that point. Went to university late, etc.Thank God for AI

3:37 thank you. I’m definitely “too” many things I didn’t realize no sleep in infancy was part of this. I never napped. Ever. I didn’t realize enhanced spiritual sensitivity was part of this. I was a talker always, so is my daughter. My son is more of a builder. I always laugh before the punchline or noticeably before the room does. Spotting lies and inauthenticity, knowing when something is wrong, 💯

Thank you so much for sharing your gifts! truly helpful and interesting.

“I’m not gifted, i’m just busy!” 😂😂 I get it.

My whole life, everyone including my family always told me that im weird. However my psychiatrist was the only person who told me that i have very high intelligence. He told me in the first day like its very impressive.

"Not potential... Develop... Nurture... Nurture potential" this was like the 4th thing in the first 6 minutes that made it impossible for me to endure this video any further.

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My favorite word thrive! How can we create an environment where people can thrive. That would be wonderful!

The issue with the MBTI is that the results of where you fall on any of the four categories are binary. This creates a scenario where individuals generally find their results to be less representative and thus useful the closer to the centerline they score. This results in the assessed personality types for those individuals being of marginal value for them, or any other figure attempting to use that information for any practical purpose. I say this as an INTP that finds the results and archetypal description to be very accurate. It's also worth noting that I consistently score no lower than 80% in any function. So the obvious corollary to a midline score being marginally representative is that scores closer to the extreme ends will be more representative.

It’s almost a disability to be extremely gifted. I scored in 99 percentile in third grade. Two to three grades advanced, but there I was stuck in a class with a teacher who liked to pick on my penmanship. Later, the IQ test showed 145. Ironically, I was in principal’s office for setting a trash can accidentally on fire. (Lit a match and got caught and subtly dropped it) I had to pry the test score out of him. The best that I could do in school was get all the necessary credits and then take study halls in excess to read what I wanted to read. I did drugs. I skipped school but never got caught. When I had a son, he was gifted and skipped a grade. Now he has three kids. I crack sophisticated jokes with my two yr old grandtwins and they get the jokes. That sparkle is twinkling away in their eyes. I only hope they get out of standard classrooms because it is hard to find academic peers and deal with less than gifted authority figures. These kids have a gift and they’ll likely be seen as dangerous. Luckily, I worked through my pyromania and drug use and at 61, appreciate my abstract agenda. I just want the best for my progeny.

I was considered gifted as a child. I went from the English learner program in kindergarten to testing at college level I'm English the following year. I was leagues ahead of my peers. However being an undiagnosed adhd child I was told over and over that I was lazy although I never failed one test in my life I was held back from skipping grades due to my inability to do homework. Now as an adult I've had to learn to look back at my past and accept I was and even now could be gifted. I became an emt without studying, I finished a 3 month dialysis training in 1 week yet I constantly feel like im less than in all areas

I was a little bit curious as to why someone would suggest going to a baseball game wasn't a cultural pursuit. A play is written largely by one person's mind, interpreted by performers for an audience, which may largely have subjective, myopic, or inaccurate interpretations on the state of the human condition. I live in Hollywood, most art is bad and made ignorant unhealthy people who aren't interesting in reading Tolstoy or Doestoyevsky and dislike the Beatles. A baseball game will have people from all walks of life, of different backgrounds, who come together to observe and event that largely has a consistent set of rules and chances. The decisions of the athletes and coaches can generally be analyzed very concretely, and there's almost always going to be considerable discourse, both by professional writers and by the masses about the events that transpired. If a person was truly interested in the human condition, and position (the degree of progress being made) I think your odds are considerably higher at the ball game. I understand that this video was released several years ago, but I really couldn't help myself.

This is absolutely fascinating! So happy to have found you Linda!

There is no gifted in a morally or ethically bankrupt civilization.

Competition is the cheapest strategy, it kill us all. It make us inherently poor, like our world, void and burned. It's the way of failure. If not for us, else... and else is what we need to live in the first place. Getting beyond competition is another dimension, true path of evolution. What we're totally unable to do, blinded by our primitive mind. We're doomed. Even if we try to invest our conscient mind to cooperation, our unconscious will sabotage it. While in the mean time we've build a worldwide system specifically meant to serve our primitive trait, capitalism. So not only our unconscious set us up to fail but we've no better to do than support and serve consciously and unconsciously, or passively (hostage, ignoring or/and educated for, by media) a systemic failure. So the only skill we need in this life is mourning of Life itself, while it is effectively dying under our boots. Humanity has failed it's evolution process. Hell is the promesse we've made to our children. Humanity is the agent of life failure on Earth. There is no gifted and gift, there is a world burning, hell deploying. There was another way to relate to the world, devoid of competition. Devoid a psychic regression, aggression abuse. A paradise to be. But hell is now our way. Gifted people doesn't exist, our world is dying while evolution want to continu but can't.

I had episode in my life where i was considering how people could process all the different activity they do just to live, functional. And i was overwhelmed, i could not withstand to all the information from social interaction mostly, they were so costly to me. Leaving me in such doubt of myself, filling alien. I had so much feeling, i was seeing so much thing, it was unbearable. And i withdraw from life completely for many years, all my life in fact. ( sound really like overfocus, i could not be just part in social interaction but completely in, everything else disappear) Today trying to live again. A therapy begin which is for me just about having positive interaction, still feeling alien and in doubt but i hope i'll be able to live out a bit. I've done a whole diagnostic of my situation and for the world outside. If it can be heard maybe it's not true, if not it is ! Humanity has failed it's evolutionary process. Hell is the promesse we've made to our children. Humanity is the agent of life failure on Earth.

Absolutely well described 👏

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This is an excellent framework. I have struggled with managing all five of these overexcitabilities my whole life. It’s great to have a new way to think about this.

Well now I feel seen! Here's my story, perhaps other gifted people will recognise themselves in it. It's way too far out for most people. ruclips.net/video/buVNXIQj_SY/видео.html

The comments are reassuring in that clearly I am not alone in this.

Super interesting history, really brave women. I think we would understand this group of children as high masking autism/ ADHD now. There is no way these ladies could have known that then. The observations they made are bang on. In the UK the gifted in terms of products agenda was never taken down and in the end the whole idea of gifted programs went.

The difficulty with gifted programs in my country (we don't have them anymore) was that they got filled with people who achieved in the way schools liked. Good memory, good executive function people went to these programs. These young people were told they were like Einstein, then got very stressed out and kept up their top marks. The children who were really difficult thinkers might do very badly in school and never got near gifted programs.

I want to see if this applies to me… I’m not a child anymore but I always look back into my childhood and see if I was “gifted”

Overexcitbility. Who coined that term. What it is is positive energy when channeled properly can be used in the most positive ways. Some people I know would give their right arm for my energy. Entraprenour magazine said that energy is 85% of the dynamic. If you don’t have it, they said do something like catering to people or you won’t get ahead.

A gifted adult: what is sad is when your own gifted won’t help you when I was functioning but bankrupt from trauma emotionally. A few words or presence would have done it. Trust you?

@23:09 I propose that sometimes anxieties and fears in those who are gifted can be caused by an experience due to overexcitability, but can fade as time goes on - especially in children whose brains are still developing. For example, I majorly have probably all the overexcitabilities, and when I was 4 years old, my parents made the mistake of taking me on a roller coaster. My 3-year-old half-sister and cousin LOVED it and were laughing & having fun the whole time. I, however, once we made it to the top of the first hill on the roller coaster, decided that being on it was NOT a good idea, so with 1 foot off the coaster car, I almost jumped off the thing without realizing I would die or be harmed, being that I was only 4 years old. My aunt grabbed me just in time and we finished the ride. For weeks or months after that, whenever I was riding in a car and we went over a hill, I would freak out crying and screaming, still with the memory of the roller coaster in my mind. That event had spurred fear and anxiety because my overexcitabilities caused me to experience being on the roller coaster so much more intensely than everyone else, and my little brain was too overwhelmed, but after some weeks or months, they went away and I never had a problem - and my parents learned to never take me on a ride like that ever again, lol. I ended up loving roller coasters as a teenager though. I think gifted children especially, due to not having a fully developed brain yet, can get overwhelmed by such things. As an adult - I am now 47 years old - I've learned how to stay grounded, embrace what I'm feeling, and ride any waves of emotion. I never feel anxious unless it's for good reason, and it passes when I address the root cause of it, and I never feel depressed - and that's not because my life hasn't been challenging, that's for sure. I 100% agree with you that overexcitabilities are a blessing. I am grateful I get to experience the world so intensely and beautifully.

I feel so understood, listening to this video.

When I was in kindergarten, I could read pretty well. One book I really enjoyed (because it was the only book I could find around my house since my parents weren’t American) was Diary of a wimpy kid. Even at that age I realized people don’t want others to talk about how they did a thing, they see it as bragging. When someone asked if I could read, I would say I could read, even long books like diary of a wimpy kid! They would always say, “really?” Or something that sounded like “can you though?” Mostly adults, since kid really aren’t thinking about that that young. Knowing this, when my 6th grade buddie asked what my favorite book was during the first ‘buddie system’ day, I said a basic kids book that I recently listened to. I don’t really know why that was stuck in my mind, but it sort of described my entire elementary years when I was worried I’d come off as arrogant and downplayed achievements. I held the impression I didn’t believe in myself, so everyone else did too.

Spiritually gifted? or not… I was five when I was taken to sunday school and right away I spotted how fake and pretentious the whole thing was. I was totally mystified as to why adults would tell such obvious lies to small children and even more shocked at the fact that adults would either believe or pretend to believe in other not to be outcasted and be part of a community that practiced the same ritualls and share the same prejudices and superstitious beliefs. I suffered from depression for the first time at nine years old (I didn’t want to take my first communion but I was aware that I could not do anything about it) and the second depression at 14 (this time was totally devastating because I truly believed that I should be able to choose not to go ahead with “confirmation”). I cannot deal with inauthentic people .I never had a problem seeing the world and people for who they really are. But it seems that in order to be part of society you have to constantly play games and engage in exhausting chit chat. Religion is a social construct Religions are created by humans to control and keep other humans in their place. To me it is very clear that the very fact that you are a human being, your purpose in life is to help others if you can and make other people’s experience of life around you, as pleasarable as possible. I find it very worriying that even children’s giftidness is used as proof of adults’ beliefs in a social construct.

This lady confuses truth/fatcs with illusionThere is no such ting as habving too much energy, ADHD and workaholics are not strong, but weak, becuase of biochemichal imbalances and various issues.

MAybe Big Five could be a useful tool (Excvuse me, JB Peterson), had it been more nuanced and unambiguous as well as more exact than it is, as well as having a parameter for health, state and situation. And maybe a parameter also for whethere one should answer according to one's real, normal personality, the typical, - or according to effects of harm upon harm, trauma upin trauma, dire need upon dire need, gone one for very long and still goingon. BIG difference from having a functional situation and everyday life.AND one should be able to see all Qs whenever wished, to see whether a Q turns up later in a different, better way. there are too few choices, and toosuperficial questions, where I don't fit in and get anxious wanting to be precise and honest . And some thinsg tdepends on how one thinks, what is meant.

Holding kids accountable is extremely bad when the rules they're being held accountable for following aren't rational and the so-called authorities holding them accountable aren't legitimate. Those things cannot be taken for granted. Being well-adapted to a profoundly sick society is not mental health.

0:52 visual spacial arent disorganized. Theyre differently organized

36:30 question time 41:26 if I see giftedness, I know what I'm seeing 55:20 asynchronous child is a gifted child. Asynchronous development

0:49 hostility towards people we think are more advantaged (gifted) in the race to success 3:06 Cole Creek Canyon, Colorado 5:42 Gifted demonstrate outstanding levels of aptitude, in top 10% in 1 or more domains 6:23 emminent people 9:10 Lita Hollingworth 12:16 differentiated education (for gifted) 14:25 exceptionality 17:45 intelligence, clever, passionate. Intense, curious, autonomous, creative, sensitive, emotionally rich, original, multi-faceted, complex, 22:47 we don't have sams amount of abstract reasoning ability 26:12 giftedness requires accommodations to develop optimally 27:27 "if you're always trying to be normal, you'll never know how amazing you can be"

I have a question. Can we say that all with overexcitabilites are gifted?

This has been the first presentation that has accurately protrayed my experiences, internal and external, eloquently. I'm in my early 40s now, and from my childhood to today, this presentation illustrates the experience clearly. I will be picking up your book (mentioned elsewhere in the comments), to go through. Thanks for analyzing this (us), and presenting the clear picture. May this lead to greater understanding. Cheers.

I'm torn on this content. Most of my family members fall into the gifted spectrum. On the one hand, I can definitely gain some important insights into our behaviors and personalities. On the other hand, NO gifted family member has all these traits - and in some cases the opposite of these generalizations is true. I'd say they're possible patterns, rather than hard-and-fast rules.

This is wonderful support for homeschooling your gifted learner. An education that is tailored to individual strengths and weaknesses is such a blessing.

So interesting that she pleades for academia not to put down other people's work, only to continue by bashing the big 5 theory. Thank you for an interesting lesson never the less.

Great presentation. So I hate to criticize it but I'm really surprised she never mentioned Autism or the term Neurodiversity. I know this video is from almost 8 yrs ago so maybe that's why... And only brief comments on ADHD. So much of what she talked about can also be explained by understanding the characteristics of neurodiversity- especially Autism and ADHD.

She made me laugh so many times. She mentioned the vulnerability, now I am crying. Thank you!!!!