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Did anyone baptize using the words father son and Holy Ghost? No. Those are titles. he says baptize in the NAME (singular) of the one that possesses those three titles and they did that. JESUS is the name Hebrews 1:4. The flesh did not exist prior to incarnation. Before Abraham was, the father was. Not the Son. The father was in CHRIST (messiah. Flesh) reconciling the world unto himself 2nd cor 5:19. The father spoke through the flesh making himself known through the flesh. The flesh was not God, God was inside the flesh.

@@bibletruth5082 did God not take human form when walking through the garden? Or when he wrestled Jacob? Or appearing at the tent with Abraham? I believe Yeshua existed far before the new testament as he claimed he was the word. And in the beginning was the word. While you may believe he used Yeshua as a conduit for God the trinitarian belief is that he was fully God and fully man for these reasons I’ve stated and more. I’m not sure if the belief that God is three dimensions in one or singular is as important to the grander scheme of spreading his gospel and living in his righteousness and law.

@Thelittlepistols Sure he manifested himself as a man, but that doesn't mean it was a 2nd person. It doesn't say Adam saw a man walking in the Garden just says the voice of the Lord was walking in the Garden you me or anyone cannot go beyond and say otherwise. You have to ask the question.. why, if the Son existed as the Son prior to the incarnation, why would that be as ambiguous as it sounds through the trinitarian perspective. Why call him "word" in the beginning rather than Son? That's written intentionally.

@@bibletruth5082 I think that when you couple the idea of a voice and walking it denotes the idea of God in human form. He also stood before Abram at the tent in Gen 18. Definitely as a man. As three men approached the tent and two went to Sodom and it states Abram stood before the Lord and pleaded for Sodom. It would seem you’re looking far too plainly at some of these scriptures and not seeing the in-depth revelation of Yeshua. He exists thoroughly through the Old Testament. Even the laws on slavery are a gospel message. Yeshua claimed to be one with God and he claimed to be the son of God. He also claimed “the father is greater than I” showing both a separation and a one-ness. Now I’m not one to question the words of Jesus. Who I believe is the Son and part of the “trinity” and you believe was God incarnate. And if either of those are the case surely we’re not disagreeing with his proclamation right? Why would God wearing flesh call himself the son of himself 54 times through the Bible? Was it all just for fun? Or because he was?

When Jesus said “I and the Father are one” in John 10:30, he was talking about the unity of purpose that existed between him and the Father. He did not mean that he was of the same essence or substance with the Father, or that he and the Father were one God, coequal and coeternal. In John 17:22, Jesus prayed to God that his disciples also would be one “just as we are one.” Obviously, the disciples were not one in substance. They were one in purpose. In John 8:58, Jesus is not declaring himself to be God, contrary to what some believe. Many think this verse references Exodus 3:14, where God says "I AM THAT I AM" (KJV). However, Jesus did not use the exact Hebrew expression for God's name. Instead, he used the Greek phrase “ego eimi,” meaning “I am,” which is commonly used throughout the Bible. For example, in John 9:9, the man cured of blindness by Jesus says “ego eimi” to identify himself. Peter also uses the same phrase in Acts 10:21: "I am the one you are looking for." This shows that “ego eimi” was not a unique divine claim. When Jesus says, “Before Abraham was born, I am,” he is simply stating that he existed before Abraham. Importantly, Koine Greek does not use upper or lower case letters to distinguish divine titles like “I AM.” Some translations offer a more accurate rendering of this verse, such as “Before Abraham was born, I have been” or “I existed before Abraham was born,” clarifying that Jesus is referring to his pre-existence rather than claiming to be God. Also, in John 17:3, Jesus refers to his Father as “the only true God,” and in John 10:36, he affirms that he is God's Son, not God Himself.

I'll talk to him.

If "God the Son" is the same God as the father but a seperate person, why was it him to do what he did, why not the father or the Holy ghost? What made "God the Son" the Son?

If Jesus Christ is the Father did Jesus Christ pray to Himself?🤷‍♂ The answer is not a simple yes or no but is an understanding because if the answer is a simple yes or no the answer would be yes and no. As a man of flesh who suffered the weakness of the flesh the man Jesus Christ is to be considered flesh because the scriptures say, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." -John 3:6 KJV So the view of the Father and Son relationship must be one as of the Spirit who is known as our heavenly Father who is above all, is over and above all flesh, A.K.A. those born of water and blood. And as flesh, the man Jesus Christ was tempted in every way as we are tempted and drew strength from His own heavenly Spirit above who is ABOVE ALL, and as flesh, the man Jesus Christ set the example for us as a man teaching us how to pray to that Great Holy Spirit who is ABOVE ALL whose name is Jesus even though the man Jesus Christ was from above and was ABOVE ALL. Therefore Jesus Christ who came from above who was above all was in heaven and earth at the same time and even told us so. John 3:13 King James Version 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Hebrews 10:20 King James Version 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;" John 6:51 King James Version 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." 1 Timothy 3:16 King James Version 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." 1 John 5:20 King James Version 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." 🔥The Father/Spirit and Son/flesh relationship.✝ "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." -John 3:6 KJV 🙏To understand the Father and Son relationship we must understand that Jesus Christ speaks as a man of flesh and always points to the Spirit above because the Spirit above is ABOVE ALL and is always greater than flesh. But Jesus Christ is truly that Holy Spirit from above who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU All and is God our Father who manifest in the flesh as the scriptures declare that He came fashioned as a man and as a man Jesus Christ cannot directly claim that He is God because that would show God a man when God is not a man but a single Holy Spirit from above who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU All and much more than a man of flesh but Jesus Christ does tell us INDIRECTLY many times that He is our Father even referring to us as sons and daughters. 👑Indirectly Jesus claims to be God, the🔥Father, and the✝Son/Christ.👇 "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." -Mark 10:18 🐑"I am the good shepherd:👈👉the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." -John 10:11 KJV👑 "Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me." -John 12:44-45 KJV "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" -John 14:6-9 KJV God is a single person/Spirit, not person's! "Will ye accept👉his person?👀will ye contend for God?" -Job 13:8 KJV "HIM", not them is our Father! "God is👉a Spirit: and they that worship👉HIM must worship HIM👈in spirit and in truth." -John 4:24 KJV "HIM" manifest in the flesh as the Son because God is more than a man. "The first man is of the earth, earthy;👉the second man is👉the Lord from heaven." -1 Corinthians 15:47 KJV God is the Father/Spirit and Son/flesh! "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." -John 3:6 KJV That is why Jesus Christ said, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." -John 6:63 KJV Spirit came forth from Spirit and there is only 1 Spirit known as "HIM", not them! One Spirit and One Body = One Lord! "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God --->and<--- Father of all, who is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU All.” -Ephesians 4:4-6 KJV John spoke of Jesus Christ saying, "He that cometh from above is ABOVE ALL: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is👉ABOVE ALL." -John 3:31 KJV One God and person/Spirit named Jesus manifest in the flesh. Just as you are a spirit in a temple of flesh so is Christ but He is that Spirit who is from above who is ABOVE ALL and He even told us so. "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them,👉Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning." -John 8:23-25 KJV Jesus knew He was from above and not of this earth and knew that His body was only a temple for His Spirit and that He existed before He was born. "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body." -John 2:19-21 KJV "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." -John 8:58 KJV Jesus Christ who came from above and is ABOVE ALL is the Comforter, the Holy Spirit who is God our Father, "HIM" who manifest in the flesh and lives in the believer, and that is why Jesus said, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you." -John 14:18 KJV "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." -John 20:28 KJV God is the Father/Spirit and Son/flesh. "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which YE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING shall remain in you, ye also shall CONTINUE IN THE SON, AND IN THE FATHER. 25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life." -1 John 2:22-25 KJV This is what the word of God said from the beginning. Isaiah 43:10 King James Version 10 "Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." The Trinity is a lie because Jesus Christ is the One God and Father who manifest in the flesh as the Son. And He is called the Christ, the Son of God, because God who is a Spirit is more than a man as Spirit is greater than flesh and that is why Jesus Christ is the Father and Son by WHOM ARE ALL THINGS. Jesus Christ is God, the Father/Spirit and Son/flesh by "HIM" WHOM ARE ALL THINGS! "But to us there is but ONE GOD, THE FATHER, of WHOM ARE ALL THINGS, and we in HIM; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by WHOM ARE ALL THINGS, and we by HIM." -1 Corinthians 8:6 KJV After Pentecost, they knew Christ as the Spirit in them and there is only 1 Spirit, not 2 or 3 because God who is a Holy Spirit is a HIM, not them! "Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that👉Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" -2 Corinthians 13:5 KJV "For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ," -Philippians 1:19 KJV "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" -Ephesians 6:17 KJV Notice how the Spirit of God is interchangeable with the Spirit of Christ because it's the same 1 Spirit! "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that👉the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the👉Spirit of Christ, he is none of his." -Romans 8:9 KJV "Now the👉Lord is that Spirit: and where👉the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as👉by the Spirit of the Lord." -2 Corinthians 3:17-18 KJV👑 Notice the scriptures tell us that Jesus Christ is the Father, the everlasting God! "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,👉The mighty God,👉The everlasting Father,👀The Prince of Peace." -Isaiah 9:6 KJV 🤷‍♂"If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?" -Matthew 22:45 KJV 🗣1+1+1=3, not 1. One Spirit + One Body = One Lord! 🔥✝🗣The Lord is One Lord!

Jesus Christ is the Father, the Holy Spirit who came fashioned as a man.

God the Father Isa 43:10 44:6 45:21 1 peter 1:2 (trinity) God the Son (Jesus Matt 3:16 Col 2:8 Titus 2:13 2 pet 1:1 John 8:58 "I am" quoting father from old testament isa43:10 John 13:19 / 20:28 / 1:1 / 17:5 John 8:24 ego eimi Rev 22:12 1:8 Phil 2:6 Holy Spirit John 16:7 14:16 Acts 5:3 / 13:2 / 10:19 / Mark 3:29 Ephesians 4:30 Hebrews 10:29 Personhood Life - 2 cor 3:3 Intelligent - Isa 40:13 Knowledge - 1 cor 2:11 Purpose - 1 cor 12:11

None of the verses under the heading "God the Son" proved that the Bible speaks of God the Son. Nor can you prove that the flesh of christ was God because it wasn't and scripture never teaches it. I'm not sure if you knew which verses you were throwing out there but it seemed to be at random, because none of them proved your point. "Because he wanted to be called father" that has to be the weakest argument I've ever heard for the trinity then you posted a verse (probably hoping i wouldn't check you out on it or it was a mistake) that had nothing to do with that nonsensical claim.

Or it’s not🤷🤷🤷

@@Notsogoodanimations No credible evidence for any supernatural claims so far. Do you have any?

@@TheJimtankermore credible claims than any historic figure. There is more documentation about Jesus than Alexander the Great. But you do you buddy.

@@TheJimtanker While it's true that we can't scientifically prove the supernatural in the same way we might prove other things, many people, including myself, believe based on personal experiences, historical evidence for Jesus' life and resurrection, and the impact of faith in our lives. Christianity isn’t just about proving facts; it’s about trust, relationship, and the transformation that comes from believing in Jesus. What are your thoughts on the historical evidence for Jesus' resurrection

@@Thelittlepistols What credible evidence do you have for ANY supernatural claim in the bible?

Yes God has always existed, but the flesh of christ has not. John 1:14 shows that the word (prophecy concerning the messiah) was made flesh (not BECAME flesh as in insisting that the Son existed prior to incarnation, but insisting that the word was not previously flesh and only existed as a prophecy prior to incarnation) and WE (the disciples and apostles) beheld (past tense) his glory as the ONLY BEGOTTEN of the FATHERA (flesh was seperate from the father therefore the flesh was not father nor was he God) full of grace and TRUTH (the truth is what the trinitarian heresy does not possess).

@@bibletruth5082Christ existed before creation, want me to use scripture to bury you?

We are called the body of christ for a reason.

@@bibletruth5082 Amen.

AMEN

I don't disagree with that statement

Romans 12:1-2, 2nd Peter 1:5-10, 2nd Timothy 2:19-23 to start

Are you serious? Your comparing us as mans obedience to his word to compare to the creation of light? Does the light read the word.of the father?

Is the light getting judgement?

@@michaelmccann7737 I'm not the first to make this comparison. For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2Co. 4:6)

@michaelmccann7737 How have you done with that obedience freewill man?

Yes it does! There's SEVERAL others that do, but most people don't have a long attention span lol so I try to keep it short for the most part.

Thank you for your comment and kind words! Christ had concluded all under sin. The wages of sin is death. Salvation was first to the Jews, then christ brought in the new and living way. So now, being a jew there is no sense of entitlement. Prior to salvation, we are all in the same position with God. Unsaved and dead. John 6:63 it is the SPIRIT that quickeneth and the flesh profiteth nothing. Romans 8:9 ye are not in the flesh but in the spirit IF the spirit of christ dwell in you, if any man have not the spirit of christ (Holy Ghost) he is none of his. Except you be born again you cannot have life. Therefore your status prior to salvation is dead in the trespasses of sin. Whether you be jew or greek (gentile) for there is no difference. Hence 2nd Corinthians 5:14 since one died (Christ) for all, then were all dead. In order to have life, you must be given that life by being born the 2nd time. Resurrected (brought alive again from being dead) in christ Jesus. Romans 6:1-6. I pray this helps. GOD BLESS!

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@@franroxburgh6055 obedience comes through the sanctification of the Word of God through only the power of God, the Holy Spirit

Brilliantly put!

You mistake philosophy for scripture. Jesus never told us to desire to repent. He said to REPENT. God's spirit is powerful enough to keep you from falling, gracious enough to not let you be tempted above what you are able, and faithful enough to keep the promises he made concerning both.

@@bibletruth5082 you will always be a sinner until you receive a new body. You need to study theology really bad. King David asked God to create in me a contrite heart. Only God can change the heart, not man. You cannot change your heart and repentance is granted only by God, all scripture…can a leopard change it’s spots? All scripture

@allendula I don't study theology, I study scripture. I Don't trust in theologians I trust in what I can read. David asked God to create in him a CLEAN (not contrite, that would be bad) heart, and renew a RIGHT spirit within him. That is done through repentance, If the Lord will grant it, not merely desiring to be repentant. Yes only God can change the heart. However, as John the Baptist stated to the pharisees "first bring forth FRUIT MEET for repentance". If you don't truly want to change, you won't change, and God won't grant you forgiveness for your sins. He searches the reigns. Repentance for remission of sins, is changing yourself to the point where God sees that you are serious. Luke 13:1-5 KJV There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. [2] And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? [3] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. [4] Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? [5] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. The focal point here was SIN, and he tells them except ye repent (of sin) ye shall likewise Perish. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. God's promise is available, but one condition is repentance. We must live according to the will of God in order to obtain this promise of his spirit which saves. Hebrews 10:36 KJV For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. AFTER you have DONE the WILL of God ye might recieve the PROMISE. What is the will of God? Repent (acts 17:30, 2 Peter 3:9) Be Baptized in the name of Jesus christ (Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:15-16, acts 2:38, John 3:13-15) to walk in his ways and according to his will (1 John 2:17, 1 Peter 4:19, 1st Thessalonians 4:3-7, John 6:40) All of this is summed up in acts 2:38 Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. That's his will (Hebrews 10:36 after you have done the WILL of God you might recieve the promise) now what is the promise? Acts 2:38-39 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Ye SHALL recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost, for THIS PROMISE... The promise was the Holy Ghost, and if you meet the conditions/criteria (do his will) you will recieve this promise. You fool yourself if you think all of this is done by merely believing in the existence of God. You will only sin if you allow yourself to sin. Sin comes from being tempted to commit sin. James 1:14-15 KJV But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. [15] Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. But the promise of God says 1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. God will not suffer (permit or allow) you to be tempted above that which you are ABLE. So once you say that we cannot deny all temptation or truly repent, then not only do you strip power away from God and deny it, you show your lack of faith in his promise to provide a way of escape for that temptation. If you fall in temptation and sin, it's because you were not being vigilant and search for that way of escape that God has provided. You chose to give in, rather to seek and find. The choice is yours to live for God, or to obey sin.

AMEN God bless