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It does not for Tan. He's the event character and scales with the upgrade levels. For all the other characters it matters, but only when you get to the relevant wave. For instance, if your Isabella is Bronze 3, she will only be weaker than possible as soon as you get to the "Rare" rank. She will be capped at Stone 1 for common, then Bronze 1 for uncommon and then Bronze 3 for rare. If you get to epic or legendary, she will stay at Bronze 3 or be dead a long time a ago most likely.

You mean for the first attack? Did the warlock come to block Avatar or did he also moved one forward?

@@DeadExarch siQka is BrokenHyena in Tacticus (the player that made the run), so discuss with him. I don’t run multihit team myself, so better to go to the source :)

@@siQka Warlock moved forward only. I have tried some more times and I have had it work once. Not sure why it is not reliable for me. Maybe If all my units were D3? I only have D3 Ragnar, D2 Calgar & Kharn, D1 Ros and G3 Aunshi. I got 185k on the good run :)

@@DeadExarch Who did he target? Calgar? If the warlock doesn't come over to Kharn you don't have the block for Avatar to not come forward and you lose high ground. I had some issues earlier with this on another map but never saw the warlock doing something else on this map. My Calgar is D3 and Kharn is D2+5.

@@karljunokas1913 There is no trick as far as we know. He is random. But if both Menhirs are killed, he can only do one of three things: 1. summon, 2. Attack. 3. reactivate deathmarks. The latter he only does if there are 2 or more of them on the field. He can only summon twice in a battle and it is always 3 turns apart. If he summons T1, he will also summon the second to last turn (meaning you have two player turns after the last summon). If he doesn’t summon T1, he will always summon T2 and the last turn (meaning you have a single player turn after). Keeping track of when he will summon the second time is probably one of the most important things in the entire fight. With Admech, Szarekh summoning T1 is better than him coming down T1, because it gives you better finishing turns. The trick if he summons T1 is to kill three or all deathmarks without blocking the stairs to the throne and set a weak bait for him to attack (spore mine).

I don't remember the exact details for this, but in general you can always assume that characters are D3 with maxed or close to maxed abilities for my videos. At least all the relevant ones like Eldryon/Calgard passive and Ragnar passive. Bella and Ragnar actives are also close to maxed if not maxed. Panda might still have his Ragnar at D2 for HP reasons against Ghaz. Ragnar always has a lvl 11 gun.

I can when we get back to him tomorrow. The answer is not Admech unfortunately. Btw, feel free to tag me on the PoH discord or the Tacticus maincord for videos you'd like to see and I'll see what I can do.

@Painhawk Thanks! Really appreciate it! Yeah, I kinda suspected that but good to know my fears were justified. My assumption is high level multi-hitters with emphasis around Ragnar and Calgar. Similar to derp fest needed for high Magnus.

Yes. The ripper swarms take way too long to deal with for the skitarii and scarabs die to them.

I remember he said 50 all or so close at it

Yes, they are all D3 and the important abilities are lvl 50. But this is an easy boss, so you can do the same approach with much lower level characters.

Thanks :) Hmm, that sounds strange. Mine is D3, 5* with a lvl 11 block item. Maybe Morty only attacks Elryon if there is a chance for a kill and the blue start makes it not possible.

@Painhawk I only recently pushed him to Blue star and previously he would get hit the same like in all your other morty vids. Take this as a warning if your were thinking about upgrading him 😅. Appreciate the reply.

@ Damn o.O I was planning on it. Maybe not anymore

@ However, you might be able to solve that by giving him a worse, or no, block item. Let me know if that works. I’ve had a different behavior from L2 or L3 Morty when Eldryon had different block items at least.

@@Painhawk good idea, I'lllet you know next time we loop around

Yes they are. The first is to direct the lantern south instead of Mortarion moving a hex south and using lantern to the southwest, where he would hit 5 targets instead of four to the south (sporemine makes it attractive) The second and third is to block Morty from going north and out of range from Neuro. As you can see though, he doesn't attack any of them, so they cannot turn into poxwalkers. If you disagree that the first mine should be placed, feel free to experiment with it and let me know how it goes (this isn't my run).

No problem :)

Yes, many times actually. He's basically a worse version of Ahriman and Yaz. If his ability damage wasn't capped, it would have been a *really* great addition to any Neuro team

​​@@Painhawkyeah check that and did the math on it. Was almost really excited about it, and forgot there was a cap on the damage. You're right, the damage cap really throws a wrench in it.

Always Corro dead on this map :)

@@Painhawk Ah, shoot. We leave it alive, so I don't think I can try this

@@FMG一D亞W You must be really hitting well if you can't spare 2 hits to kill Corrodius?

Sorry for the late reply. This video is probably obsolete now, after SP did changes to Mortarion. But regardless of that, we always kill Corrodius on this map. Move 4 makes him a lot more volatile as he can fly over your units. There is no reason to have move 4 here as we can reach Mortarion T2 and have high ground, which he cannot.

Let me see what I can do

@@Painhawk appreciate you brother! Thanks for the reply!

No problem, glad it's useful. Share with friends/guildmates. And you might want to find another guild that is more involved, it makes the game so much more engaging. Might I suggest checking out Pants of Horus cluster? We have guilds for every level of engagement from casual to competitive :)

@@FMG一D亞W Not 100% sure what you mean by the «jump», but are you referring to Rho? If yes, I moved him as he’d get killed by the fire circle. Why it doesn’t show as a move, but rather a «teleport», I dunno.

I don’t agree with this at all :P Snappa is one guy. Anuphet is 5+ the last two turns. It’s all about Rho procs

@@RVD1OFAKIND Anuphet is lvl 49, D2, lvl 49 warriors. Aleph is D3 lvl 50 scarabs

I guess you’ll have to confirm that for me as this was just an uncap token for me. I’m not really hitting this guy. That said, I don’t see why it’s not repeatable. Keeping him there is a bit of work though, so that might not be. There are also many other things that could go wrong, like Rho getting Gaze or teleported.

@@Painhawk To me his movement so far is very unpredictable. But i haven't played a ton of Magnus yet, as our Multi-Hit Members take care of him. But if i could get a stable 350k Admech dmg on him, like your Video showed is possible on this map, i fight him more often.

@@highroller6244 I don’t think 350 k is, but 250-300 k consistently might be

Thanks! 😊

@@Papatim85 They are all D3

@@Painhawk ok thanks for the info

Glad you like them! 😊

It is a while back that I made this, but pretty sure he was lvl 47.

@@lewishorsman2219 Yeah, don’t have him yet. Just need to be careful, those eliminators do 3.8 k base damage and is on HG

Yeah, with ahriman and yaz it is somewhat easier. Summoning two sets of screamers helps a lot

@@FMG一D亞W Can't always have it easy ;)

Thanks :) Rho uses a gun. It’s necessary to ensure 100% crits

They are all D3 except for Aethana, who is D2.5. You probably don’t need them this leveled though. However, my skitarii are level 50 and barely survived the canon shot, so you will lose guys if weaker.

To tell you the truth, I’m not 100% sure. I’ll do some research, but my guess is that it matters how many targets he can hit with the attack and probably also how many guaranteed kills. Could be that on L3, skitarii aren’t kills, but the mines are, so he will try to kill mines with a line attack. L4 is much more likely to kill any summon it hits and will probably therefore prioritize otherwise. My personal opinion is that L4+ Avatar shouldn’t be hit with Admech. It just sucks.

@@Painhawk Thanks appreciate it! Unfortunately, my multi-hitter line is still geared around Muagan Ra and haven't moved it over to Ragnar. To make matters worse, I don't have calgar. I could grind him out just haven't yet. Been preoccupied with the admech push. I think our guild only has one guy with a viable psycher line but even then not L4 ready. Besides I think he hits too hard for most psychers anyway.

I always use pistol, but for some high armor targets, knife might be better. Haven’t invested in a lvl 11 knife though.

Hi gear do use ?

@@nikolaykaraivanov3625​​⁠ Rho has a lvl 11 gun. That’s all that matters in this fight

@@Painhawk Leveling grenade to like 7 is actually worth it with how many attacks he does. Plus you can always swap it to Ragnar when needed.

@@RVD1OFAKIND I mean, taking it to lvl 11 is probably even worth it, but I’m at 11 for gun and 5 for grenade because that gives a satisfying +1234 crit damage and I honestly haven’t wanted to change it xD

Thanks! I'm happy you find them useful. My Sho is maxed out yes.

@@DeadExarch very nice :) I know it’s possible for me to get more, but it’s probably not completely consistent. I seem to be able to get 16k consistently though.

@@AFAndersen Yeah, definitely depends on your situation. But having played since the start, I could have had more D3 space marines and I’m sure many have more than me. Point was I definitely don’t have a maxed team out there.

All AI in the game has a list of priorities. Most of them are common, some bosses have additional priorities (like Mortarion perfering to hit psychers). What is certain is that overkills have high priority, followed by kills. Once kills are out of the way however, it gets trickier and less certain as it depends on so many variables. In short though, he will always go for the spore mine if it is in range, unless something else is killable, which is very unlikely.

@@Painhawk Thanks! Been trying to learn some of these low level details as I get my admech line up to leet level lol.

@@Painhawk I think the biggest problem I'm having right now is that admech summons seem to F off a decent amount so my damage applied suffers, granted tan passive is only 47 still. Also don't have sho high yet so those are both problems I admit.

@@grahamcardwell8872 Yes, Admech on Sza without Sho isn't that great. Too few attacks actually go on Szarekh. Positioning Eldryon to have Doom on as many potential spawn points as possible is also vital. Next season will be L5 Szarekh, we'll see how well we fare against him then as the sniper drones will no longer one-shot the deathmarks I think.

Hey. This is a very old run, so I don’t remember what the status was at the time. Also keep in mind they have changed Morty’s AI after this, so he hunts for psychers much more now. This run may or may no longer be repeatable.

@@Painhawk thank you so much for your kind reply. I was looking for a nice replay to pass on to my guildmates. Some of them have standard teams, and I would like to help them against Mortarion.

Yeah, we’ve basically decided against using Admech on L5 Morty now. His increased armor makes Rho passive almost useless and only the active does any damage. You can still hit over 450 k on a good run, but with the buffed wind and Rho active being most the damage, it’s very high risk and you have to expect many more runs with bad output than before.

@@Painhawk I see. 450k is still huge. So basically you went back using Neuro team? I started building RHo team now. Currently using multi hitters with ragnar, Calgar, Aun Shi and Snotty.

@@bryanvingilot863 The guild did yes. I don't need to hit him. 450 k would still be good, but it's not a reliable number. Our best Neuro teams do 500 k+. I'll upload a Neuro run on L5 Morty when we get back to him. A little late I guess, but better late than never.

@@PainhawkI see. Alright. Looking forward to your video on L5 Morty.

Yeah, the rest are all D3 :) Rho 50/50, Tan 48/50, Actus 50/44 and Aleph 50/46

​@@Painhawk really wonder full im trying to get there but it take time, so far Rho D3 and the other D1 😢

@@francisyn7584 You're not too far off then :) You don't need all the abilities as high as mine to do this.

Indeed I am :)

He's D2+4, lvl 48 active. He's earning his D3 through arena. He's not good at it, so takes a while xD