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Ah yes, typo 🙈

@@leslieq You know you can just edit the title right, instead of having ot put it in the description?

I don’t believe so.. I think it’s correct and sounds not half as off when using better string samples in NPPE 4. Maybe I’ll upload a NP4 version sometime 👍

Thanks for listening. I do them manually mostly. The one time I did a render using some musicxml I found online (a movement from a Rachmaninov Symphony), I was caught out by lots of problems with wrong notes that I failed to spot... so back to doing them myself by hand. You can find a lot of good quality musicxml on musescore.com though. Can be a little messy importing them into a notation program though.

It is worth clarifying that this render was done with an older version of NotePerformer (version 3.3.2) so BEFORE the latest NotePerformer Performance Engine (NPPE) that comes bundled with NotePerformer 4.*. With 3.3.2, there is no such "dry" setting in NotePerformer. Sibelius however, does have a dry setting in Playback performance settings; and I set the mixer reverb sliders all to 0%. No DAW was used at all. In Sibelius' mixer, you can load external reverb/effects plugins directly into Sibelius. That is how I loaded Altiverb to apply reverb and was able to export the full track straight from Sibelius - no stems required. I have since updated to set up to use the latest NotePerformer 4.4 with NPPE. Here is the same piece rendered using Spitfire's BBCSymphony Orchestra: drive.google.com/file/d/1_c0Yy1nVBTVCGF8zfCp3KM0IGifIq4In/view?usp=sharing - exactly the same process as before except, yes now in NPPE I have reverb set to off and instead of Altiverb, now using Cinematic Rooms for reverb. No stems. Just export directly from Sibelius.

I’ll see what I can do 👍 thanks for listening

@@leslieqno problem 👍

Lol, I wouldn’t right off the NP tech based on my mockups. I know mixing and EQ is a huge part of the process - something I am definitely not particularly skilled at 🤷‍♂️

You can still use their built in samples and don’t even have to pay for nppe to do so, but while they are more consistent, that’s true, they sound a lot more like an old synth than some of the better nppe stuff. I don’t know how they could have improved that besides creating their own large orchestral library, but then the base product would cost a lot-lot more (I’d guess closer to a 1000 bucks than to 500) and people would complain that it wasn’t the original direction. I don’t know them, so I can’t speak for them, but to me it seems they realized they can’t do magic with a simple less than 1 GB sample base, and making that better is a very expensive undertaking, so they decided to use what’s already there and done more professionally. I do hope their NPPE will catch up with the consistency and dynamics of the playback based on their own samples, but even now I think they made the right choice.

Yes, there are quite a few score errors in this one. For example, 0:27, where the eighth note E's on the 2nd violins should be moved down on the violas as low F's (same line, treble vs alto clef).

Symphony No.2, movement 2

Gah, good spot… yes, 2nd Movement. Clearly been staring at it for too long didn’t spot the typo.

@@leslieq 2nd movement of the 2nd symphony 😁

Hey, I'm not the copyright owner of this piece, but in the name of education here's some musicxml: drive.google.com/file/d/1ITGvkVmXCgaUt-Z_uXKtiQ1W1NRYa7XR/view?usp=sharing - i'd be interested the hear your results.

​@@leslieq Thank you very much! I promise to update you with some results. But as I am totally new to Dorico and quite busy, it may take some time.

Sorry for the slow response 🙏 Sibelius has a number of ways of affecting playback. Obviously you can add tempo text, metronome marks and performance directions for a musician. But for software to playback in a more natural way, you need to add more detail - recreating the type of rubato a real musician might do. You can use the following techniques to add more playback detail to your score but hiding them from printing so as to not clutter the printed out score. The first is using CMD+Shift+H to Hide/Unhide an object. E.g. if you want to affect playback with a slight rallentando at a cadence (that a real musician might do naturally - but you don’t want to necessarily have to write it in your score), you can choose Rallentando from the Lines menu and place it where you want. Than CMD+Shift+H to hide it from view - but it will still play back. These techniques work with a number of things, not just tempo related. You can do it with dynamics, notes, lines, playing techniques etc. 
 The second technique is to use “~” (tilda) symbol before in text objects. This works best for expression marks and dynamics. For example, if you want to force legato on a passage that you want to be played moderately loud, you can use “mf~legato” where ONLY “mf” will be visible in your score, but the playback engine will obey the “legato” marking. The third, most advanced way to do tempo is using Sibelius’ Record Live Tempo. It basically allows you to tap out the tempo for your piece / passage (and even tap out sub-divisions of bars for more refined performance) using a midi keyboard or Spacebar on your keyboard. There are a few video tutorials of this technique floating around RUclips. (I didn’t use live tempo on this mockup, but it is something I’d definitely like to try with something like a concerto).

Hey, I don’t use Cubase. If you’re looking to do orchestral writing with NotePerformer, then you will need to use it with Sibelius, Dorico or Finale.

Ugh, I wrote this really long reply to your comment about Sibelius glissandi but somehow RUclips didn’t post it 🤦‍♂️

@@leslieq oh nooo. But i understand! No worries! I appreciate your time so much! ✌🏽 It may be limitations on the sample library i use. also i realize i typed “glissandos” instead of “glissandi” so I’m gonna go crawl in a hole 🫠 i should know better 😭

I did not change the string section vibrato rate for this excerpt. I do change it for some scores, but I didn't for this one. I'm actually working on completing the full 1st movement of this Prokofiev Piano Concerto so will upload it soon - it's a much better mix to come ;)

Hey, it should be quite simple to add maracas without any issues. 1) With your score open, launch the Add or Remove Instrument panel (keyboard shortcut: i ) 2) Type in "Maracas" in the Find field; Choose from All Instruments You will see all maracas options listed (example here: drive.google.com/file/d/19ksCzDmLrP4DJ4P7OTZT0Iw59A8Nr-78/view?usp=sharing) If you want to add maracas to a "Drum Set" instrument, you will need to Edit the instrument and add a custom note-head in the "Edit Staff Type..." options. I did just try that for myself and whilst you can do the process and select Maracas as the sound, there seems to be a bug that results in the incorrect sound being played. Out of curiosity, I did the edit instrument process with a generic "Percussion 5 lines" stave.. adding maracas works just fine here and plays the correct sound.

@@leslieq Thank you so much. The instrumentation of my score is: - Percussion : piano, metallophone, maracas, drums and Congas. The metallophone, drums, maracas and Congas are the only ones that have an incorrect sound. - strings. I will try what you told me.

@@leslieq I tried. But it still doesn't work.I opened a new blank sheet, searched for the instruments but the sound is still wrong.The sound of maracas, drums and congas is played correctly only when using Sibelius sounds, But when I select Noteperformer3 to play it, no such instruments are heard.

@@marcoszamora2089 That is strange... did you try to open the .sib file I shared in the first reply above? It's just a simple file that uses NotePerformer standard playback configuration. Let me know if you hear maracas

My go-to is usually Mechanics Hall (with Dry/0% reverb from Sibelius)

Lol, I do wonder… but not sure he would 😅 It’s incredible what he did with just pen and paper - such skill, innovation and invention. A total master.

@@leslieq Yes . Its amazing what these great composers could do.

@@leslieq I am new to noteperformer and am busy uploading my old scores from musescore to noteperfomrer , I published them here on my you tube channel, not nearly as good as yours. ! But hey ! Im trying .LOL

@@danielezekiel97 Wow, been having a listen. Nice work... you're a pretty prolific composer!

@@leslieq How do you find the choir/vocals with noteperformer , I think it needs development .

Ah yes, “Leaving Hogwarts”? It is a lovely cue. I think I actually have that with NotePerformer somewhere on my hard drive.

Sure. Easiest via my insta @leslieq

I won’t lie, AltiVerb does take it to a new level but I don’t think it is necessary to obtain great results. First off, I recommend just using the default settings once you have Sibelius/NP installed - the out of the box sound is pretty pleasing in itself. Then experiment with the different Sibelius playback settings (dry, ambient etc) in combination with the mixer settings for the amount of reverb on each instrument fader. If by chance, you have a DAW installed (E.g. Logic), it is possible to load the reverb plugins directly into Sibelius for use with your score playback.

So out of curiosity, I went back and exported this score with only Sibelius/NotePerformer playback. I think the result is still pretty good. Check it out here: drive.google.com/file/d/1fYZ7Hf3_mDuVLWWezdIvloEftFwXuq_m/view?usp=sharing Sibelius Play > Performance Settings: • Espressive: Senza Expressivo • Use Espressivo 2: OFF • Rubato: Senza Rubato • Rhythmic feel: Straight • Use Reverb: ON (Concert Hall) • Mixer Faders scale note velocity as well as volume: CHECKED Sibelius Mixer (M) Settings: • for each instrument track, reverb amount set to 32% Voila! I did this quickly as a test, but I'm sure you can improve on the sound output with additional refinement. You definitely don't need to be buying AltiVerb to have a great time with this software.

I use Mechanics Hall reverb in Altiverb as the starting point; and have all Sibelius mixers set to 0% and Dry mix.

One of his best, for sure!

Absolutely, couldn’t agree more. And these technologies will only continue to improve. Yes, I’ve listened to that Rite of Spring render. Some impressive moments for sure 👍 Thanks for stopping by

Hah, yeah.... so many notes 😅 it is truly virtuosic writing. Learning so much...