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I like that definition! Thanks.

Thank you! Yes Tigrilla is doing a great job :)

Sacred Witness of my own experience... I love that! That sounds exactly like Chickweed!!

Sounds like a great quote! We all need that reminder.

I also have many fond memories of Cattail. Ki has a way of interacting with otherkin--water, birds, wind...--that is mesmerizing. It soothes the soul.

Thank the plants. Kin know just what we need!!

@@tigrillagardenia 👍🙂

Great advice! Maybe in the future, we can update it to, "Give them warm cacao, and listen."???

@@tigrillagardenia hahaha I love this! Chocolate is always the answer!!! xoxo

That's how I feel about it. I think it has the makings of a fantastic paper, he just tried to put in too much rather than concentrating on one main idea with a few subpoints. I think with an edit, it could be a great paper, although still flawed for all of us that understand the intelligence and decisive nature of plants.

@@tigrillagardenia well,, the first time I taught a class was because our teacher was ill and I was asked to take over. And I was determined to make it as great and informative as I could make it. So I was too fast, gave to much information with no repetitions and no hunour , and I lost my audience. It was strenuous for both sides. But I learned from this 🙂....there is always hope .....🙂

Your thoughts become your reality through your actions. In this way, we constantly manifest the spiritual into the physical. One example is an inventor, who takes an idea in the mind, and turns it into an object. Spiritual thoughts connected to the human spirit or human soul, in the same way, can be materialized through the actions we take in daily life. Does that make sense?

@@tigrillagardenia Sounds like an excuse to me, but whatever makes sense to you. For me soul is just another word for mind. Also not sure why people tend to try and separate the mind from the physical realm. The mind is physical already, you just can't quite touch it. Just like light, everything is physical. These thoughts seem to be ancient and not quite adapted to modern knowledge, so naturally it all sounds off to me; but maybe you interpret words differently than me. Thanks for elaborating though, I get what you mean. I found it very helpful to accurately formulate the words I think, to get more and more accurate and closer to what I actually mean; if I think in words that is, most of the time I don't think in words anymore. Anyways, good day to you.

@@Leftyotism I completely agree with everything you wrote. Words are difficult and, I find, can't really articulate what is understood. For me, soul and mind are also the same. Working with plants has helped me understand that even more, but unfortunately, their lack of human vocabulary makes it hard to express. Just another reason why I think we need a new vocabulary to express a new paradigm of multispecies thought. Not sure if that sentence made sense, but I hope you will feel its meaning. Thank you for the discussion--it helps me better understand my own thoughts.

@@tigrillagardenia Pleasure. I wouldn't say plants have a mind myself, since that's a concept referring to brains, and that's not even considering consciousness, but they do have life as they are an organism where many things work together. I think plants are more of a reactive being, which react to received sensory information. Just like our body mostly works by itself and doesn't need our consciousness to steer everything. But then again, we tend to separate our thinking from out body. But that's just my view on things at the current time, things might change (as they always do, whether we want it or not).

@@Leftyotism The discussions around plant mind, plant consciousness, and plant intelligence are plentiful. If you look through my Plant Consciousness Commentary, you will see that I have covered many of the research papers and studies on these topics. Seeing thinking and the body united, is probably what makes it easier for me to conceptualize the plant mind without needing a brain. Even in myself, similar to an octopus that can sense with a tentacle, I do not feel that all my "thinking" passes through my brain. Movement is a way of thinking that for me, often time seems to bypass logical functions. Again, the lack of words makes it hard to express. Even as I type, my body wants to express the concepts. 🙃

@michellehuggins3530 Have you watched the full episode of the podcast, Ep.63 In Relationship with Master Teacher Cacao? Judy and I have a full discussion on this subject. It is fascinating!

@@tigrillagardenia No didn't know there was podcast like this

@@michellehuggins3530 You can click on my channel to see all the episodes of the podcast, find it in your favorite podcast app, or go to tigrillagardenia.com/podcast for all the episodes with links and show notes. I look forward to hearing what you think. And if you have any questions at all, I am here!

@@tigrillagardenia Thank you, will look up...

I'm so glad you loved this episode! xoxo

Awe thank you love, you are adorable! Sending so much love love love and Cacao blessings to you! xoxoxo

Glad you enjoyed it. I find these discussions so fascinating and thought provoking!!

I am hoping this trend of becoming compost continues to spread. It seems like the most connected way to complete the cycle of life.

So true!!

@user-kb8qw7dy4t There is also a very heated scientific discussion taking place around Plant Consciousness. I have gone through much of the back and forth between human neurobiologies and plant researchers in my Plant Consciousness Commentary shared on RUclips and tigrillagardenia.com/blog. This might help you better understand why the argument that a brain is the sole determinant for consciousness doesn't hold water: not for humans and especially not for plants. If you'd like to get up to speed on the latest research, a good place to start would be: Segundo-Ortin, Miguel, and Paco Calvo. “Are Plants Cognitive? A Reply to Adams.” Studies in History and Philosophy of Science Part A 73 (2018): 64-71. Web. Another good one is Calvo P, Gagliano M , Souza GM & A Trewavas (2020) Plants are intelligent, and here is how. Annals of Botany 125: 11-28. doi.org/10.1093/aob/mcz155 The full list of over 50 papers I've covered live can be found in the Naturally Conscious Community, Sprout Discussions --> Programs/replays. tigrillagardenia.com/ncc

@user-kb8qw7dy4t There is a very heated scientific discussion taking place around Plant Consciousness. I have gone through much of the back and forth between human neurobiologies and plant researchers in my Plant Consciousness Commentary shared on RUclips and tigrillagardenia.com/blog. This might help you better understand why the argument that a brain is the sole determinant for consciousness doesn't hold water: not for humans and especially not for plants. If you'd like to get up to speed on the latest research, a good place to start would be: Segundo-Ortin, Miguel, and Paco Calvo. “Are Plants Cognitive? A Reply to Adams.” Studies in History and Philosophy of Science Part A 73 (2018): 64-71. Web. Another good one is Calvo P, Gagliano M , Souza GM & A Trewavas (2020) Plants are intelligent, and here is how. Annals of Botany 125: 11-28. doi.org/10.1093/aob/mcz155 The full list of over 50 papers I've covered live can be found in the Naturally Conscious Community, Sprout Discussions --> Programs/replays. tigrillagardenia.com/ncc

Do you have personal experience with that?

While this is true, it still doesn't explain why the other species died out. There are many species that cross breed and hybridize, yet each individual species continues. Why do you think this has been different in Homo species?

I would love to explore more with you where you see morality in what I said. My intention was to show exactly the opposite. In the natural world, including plants and animals, competition in not the dominant paradigm. And yet, humans claim that it is. This is then used to support more aggressive actions, where instead a mutualism could instead yield better results for all parties involved. Have you watched the entire episode yet?

@@tigrillagardenia "competition is not dominant paradigm"? Have you ever heard about how and why animals protect territory? About how cockoo chicks push out other chicks from the nest to fall and die, just so they would get more food? Ever heard of species in which alpha male claims every female in the pack/heard and other males denied reproduction?

​​@@tigrillagardenia You know, I watched it a little bit and I found it very, VERY unscientific. I say that, trying my best not to use bad words. You deal in opinions, every vlogger and blogger does, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But you need a reality check. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, yours just goes against any standard of worldwide recognized biology and science. I can only characterize your message as "spiritual", which sure, for some is a good content to watch. But the YT algorithm for some reason gave your video not to your *target* auditory, which to be blunt should be very specific. So you probably will get ratioed. Still I wish you good luck.

@@NiceAsIce Thank you for taking the time to reply. You are right, this is probably a more philosophical argument, although there are elements based on scientific data. If you watch the entire podcast episode, it is easier to understand what is what. The link to that video is included in this Short. I try to be clear when I am speaking from a strictly scientific basis and when making a philosophical argument that interprets that data from a different point of view. Hard to do in a snippet, I admit. That being said, I would love to hear the scientific data you rely on to say that my argument is completely unscientific. Send me the references, and I am happy to read through them.

If you go to tigrillagardenia.com/gaia-divine-science, you get a free trial so you can watch the series and see how you like Gaia.

Let me check a certain site real quick.

Did I understand correctly that hair color for you is an indicator of intelligence and education? Are some colors more acceptable than others for you?

No logic... to be honest, for much of my life, I was aggressive and believed the competition model often proposed, hence my comment. When you watch the entire episode and my other content, you will see that I have given my fair share of agression and judgment. The plants have help me so much with this, but it still shows itself from time to time, especially when I am tired. ;)

Send me an email info@tigrillagardenia.com with where you are located, and I can help you with that.

Can you define "magical thinking" for me? Before I answer your comment, I would like to better understand what claims you are referencing when you say they come from a lack of ignorance and understanding. Because at first glance, your comment feels like it supports the point that since the Natural World is brilliant as ki is, which I completely agree with, then Divine and Science can be considered synonyms.

There is so much to say about this, @Chris-bn1bn. Have you seen Ep.60 The Meaning of Spirituality of my ReConnect with Plant Wisdom podcast? Here's a little snippet that connects to what you were saying: ruclips.net/video/o1_6VD6n1Kg/видео.html

You needed him to be here right now

I totally agree!

Would that be a bad thing, @reneewebb7401 ?