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Benedict Beckeld
Добавлен 10 окт 2011
I am the author of "Western Self-Contempt: Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilizations" (Cornell University Press) and other works. I hold a Ph.D. in Philosophy and Classical Philology from the University of Heidelberg, Germany. My main areas of specialization are aesthetics, political philosophy, the philosophy of religion and of history, socio-cultural history, and ancient Greek thought. I was born in Sweden but immigrated as a child to the United States.
(I am happy to engage in discussion with those who wish to comment, and civilized, constructive critique is always welcome, but I reserve the right to remove comments that are excessively rude or that attack me personally.)
(I am happy to engage in discussion with those who wish to comment, and civilized, constructive critique is always welcome, but I reserve the right to remove comments that are excessively rude or that attack me personally.)
Benedict Beckeld with Peter Boghossian
@drpeterboghossian interviews Benedict Beckeld. They discuss:
Oikophobia generally
Oikophobia in Europe
Tribalism
Wokeism as a manifestation of oikophobia
The substitution hypothesis
Religion vs. shared beliefs
The decline of empiricism
Whether studying philosophy is harmful
How some people fall into wokeism
Scholarly censorship
Original interview video: "Civilizational Decline Through Self-Contempt | Peter Boghossian & Benedict Beckeld" ruclips.net/user/liveCOoZ7ilV06Y?si=mi5ebb2JHLs3y4__
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Oikophobia generally
Oikophobia in Europe
Tribalism
Wokeism as a manifestation of oikophobia
The substitution hypothesis
Religion vs. shared beliefs
The decline of empiricism
Whether studying philosophy is harmful
How some people fall into wokeism
Scholarly censorship
Original interview video: "Civilizational Decline Through Self-Contempt | Peter Boghossian & Benedict Beckeld" ruclips.net/user/liveCOoZ7ilV06Y?si=mi5ebb2JHLs3y4__
X: x.com/benedictbeckeld?lang=en
Facebook: benedictbeckeld/
My website: www.benedictbeckeld.com
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Видео
Benedict Beckeld in Budapest on Civilizational Development, @brainbar
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Benedict Beckeld gave three talks in Hungary from September 24-28, and the second was this, on the 26th, at the annual @brainbar festival in Budapest. The talk, called "From Pride to Shame", deals with oikophobia and civilizational development. There's a Q&A at the end. Moderator: Rodrigo Ballester Original streaming video: ruclips.net/user/liveUuVzQUsaMMo?si=Y-yQtjS568Qcf6Cg (the segment begin...
War and Multiculturalism, in Israel
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War and Multiculturalism, in Israel
Philosophical Ramifications of the Israel War
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Philosophical Ramifications of the Israel War
My Africa Memoir and America's Race Obsession
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My Africa Memoir and America's Race Obsession
Rebuttal of the Ignorant Review by David P. Goldman
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Rebuttal of the Ignorant Review by David P. Goldman
The Struggle against Academic Censorship
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The Struggle against Academic Censorship
Cultural Self-Hate: America vs. Europe
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Cultural Self-Hate: America vs. Europe
Western Self-Contempt: Response to Critique
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Western Self-Contempt: Response to Critique
Publication of "Western Self Contempt"
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Publication of "Western Self Contempt"
Why America Is the World's Freest Country
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Why America Is the World's Freest Country
From the Battlefields of Marathon, Thermopylae, and Chaeronea
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From the Battlefields of Marathon, Thermopylae, and Chaeronea
Western Self-Contempt: Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilizations
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Western Self-Contempt: Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilizations
The Tragic Foundation of the Open Society
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The Tragic Foundation of the Open Society
U.S. Election Violence and Oikophobia
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U.S. Election Violence and Oikophobia
Rumsfeld Rules: All generalizations are false, including this one. (He may have stole that ‘rule’ 🤪) ruclips.net/video/afyrQLB9mW8/видео.htmlsi=YLFgDVj3It9gDSk7
He must have thought himself quite clever.
@@BenedictBeckeld not sure if he enjoyed being ‘clever’ or comical 🤷♂️, “there are also unknown knowns. That is to say things that you think you know that it turns out you did not.”
Civilisation is in decline when we consider people like Peter intellectuals!
The woke are masters of the 'stolen concept.'
Narcissism is the problem!
Yes.
If the Substitution Hypothesis is correct, would the antidote be as simple as reversing it?
It certainly is correct, and shouldn't even be called a hypothesis, because history has already demonstrated it repeatedly. I did a separate video on it: ruclips.net/video/zIJAcFsIy8A/видео.htmlsi=CfRxNb-XeEWlzcPS
Icelandic fairies are analogous to Santa Claus 🎅
Another incredible chat with deep wisdom
Thanks!
Balkanization is a better word.
Where does the KGB /soviet policy (as desccribed by defector Yuri Bezmenov) of subversive oikaphbia fit in with all this?
Well it sometimes happens that a society's enemies will use its internal weakening as an opportunity to sow further discord. What precisely the KGB used to do he no doubt knew better than I.
Woke-ism is a relegion ..... Activists are priests ..demonstrations are church ,,,,coming out is being born again ..being white is original sin......believing a man just has to say hes a woman is the eucharist (a priest bleese wine and it beccaomes the literal blood of christ).....sex change /harmones is an exorsism ......canceling is excomunication.....Racism is the devil ....questioning the dogma is heracy ....
The important point, in my view, is that the defeat of religion never leads to anything better.
16:10 Ishmael, by Daniel Quinn. Would love for you both to read this. It may help save us all.
As someone who is working on understanding my cultural roots so that I may know where I'm headed, I'm proud to call you my friend!
Thank you, my dearest. Friendship until a hundred and twenty!
@@BenedictBeckeld❤
So interesting to see these crossovers, the internet does wonders sometimes.
Indeed, although the Internet is only as smart as its users: A friend finally explained to me how to use other people’s videos - after I had been unable to figure it out for a couple of years!
Reminded me of a Camille Paglia video. Though her’s is more of a stream of consciousness cathartic expression 🤪 ruclips.net/video/NJMD2rBuZtE/видео.html
And with a large dose of "m'kay" peppered through the discourse, no doubt. (Having said that, I do like her.)
@@BenedictBeckeld I’ll never listen to Paglia again without also thinking about Mr Mackey from South Park “m’kay”
@@andrewhosfeld Ha ha, exactly.
OIKOPHOBIA. Look it up. This man is so correct!
Thanks!
So not.
You begin by deifying architecture because of it's usefulness to the society in which it exists. By this metric we should judge music on the value it bring to the context in which it exists, which would imply Taylor Swift to be 'better' (your idea) than Beethoven. Yet you persist in your baffling pursuit of 'syntax' as the benchmark by which we should evaluate music. At no point do you attempt to clarify what you mean by this either but it appears to be mainly about tones, with no reference at all to rhythm. The disdain, and disingenuousness with which you cherry pick a long studio recording of Bach to place against a short iPhone video of a Justin Bieber concert makes me think you went into this thought experiment with your mind made up and wanted to make some intellectual nonesense to support your superiority. Why not present some of the amazing current music that is pushing the boundaries. Sungazer's 'Cool 7' for example pushes the limits of what is possible rhythmically in completely new ways. And don't be so predictable as to play the 'they're not big' card. Sigh. I also wonder how the intensely syntatically rich musical traditions of Indonesian Gamelan, Persian classical music, Indian classical music and the huge array of rich non-Western musical expressions fit into your colonial superiority. At the end of the day, I don't care if you prefer rennaisance era classical music to Norwegian Black Metal. Like you said, that's subjective. What I intensely object to is trying to imply that this is in any way 'superior' and supporting that with demonstrably flawed arguments.
Amazing!!!
Thank you!
Thank you so much, Dr. Beckeld! I just came across the word OIKOPHOBIA today in a comment on RUclips. It explains EVERYTHING! I'm busy reading all your articles I can find!
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it! I hope you'll enjoy the articles; the most detail on this particular topic you'll find in my book "Western Self-Contempt".
So it is liberalism which fuels this.
Not only, but it's certainly a part of it, yes.
@@BenedictBeckeld If I recall your book, you assert that oikophobia is characteristic of all cultures in decline. But if we remove liberalism from the picture, I'd say that it would be far far less prevalent and impactful. I don't recall any pre-liberal cultures' leadership importing masses of hostile aliens to replace their own kind in reparation for not being nice to their ancestors.
@@polemeros I assert that it's characteristic of all *Western* cultures in decline. But the point is this: all Western cultures become more "liberal", relatively speaking, as they advance, so yes, hypothetically removing liberalism would help, but the point is that liberalism is willy-nilly part of the Western fabric, so this is something that WILL happen. And note that this is true for ancient cultures as well: they were not liberal in our sense, of course, which is why their oikophobia wasn't as extreme as ours, but they became more liberal during their development, which is one of the reasons why they still had some oikophobia. In the book I explain in detail why the problem becomes more extreme with every iteration.
Beautiful
Thanks!
Not a pop hater but its insane how simple it is, like same keys same progressions, and the ones really doing all the work such as song writing and production dont get any recognition, whereas to be considered anybody in classical music you had to have an amazing piece for every key every instrument and a total knowledge of theory in order to compose, it's insane how music devolved instead evolved over the centuries, like every genre became simpler and simpler
I will listen to your video later, but before that let me say this: David Snowman is someone deeply worried about his side of history being on the trending down, I listened to his lectures, he is full aware of the colossal issues of the west and he absolutely dislike it , he is not a fanatic however his view of the world is definitely tilted sharply Arguing with him or rebutting his views is maybe important for you but it will have zero impact on him and his supporters With that said I wish you and David all the best
Thank you, but if you had listened to the video, you would have known that having "impact" on him or his supporters was never my goal (how naive do you really think I am?). As I say in the video itself, I'm doing the video because third-party readers who decide not to buy the book because of Goldman's childish and error-ridden review should hear that every single point is easy to reject. And I'm happy to say that the video has largely had the effect I intended.
Great! Again!
Thank you, my dear!
@@BenedictBeckeldOf course!
My wife and I do not feel any self contempt and teach our children to love our culture. 🏴🇬🇧
Good for you; I wish everyone could say the same.
Speculative philosophy of history??
It's a technical term.
@@BenedictBeckeld I know sir,I’m student of B.S History
@@BenedictBeckeld I want discuss some topics of History with you ? How can I contact you?
@@MUmair-c7d Your double question mark seemed to imply that you did not know. In any case, we can discuss it right here, or you can use the contact form on my website (link is in the video description).
@@BenedictBeckeld actually I’m not clearly understanding this branch of philosophy of history
Excellent speech. The Catholic countries are faring better than those of N Europe. Catholicism is the main target and the ultimate obstacle.
Thank you! And yes, there are a number of reasons why the southern countries are doing better in this regard, and I agree that Catholicism is the principal one.
👍
We know nothing of what you said.
my music is syntactically complex and sounds good 👍
There is music by Sami Youssef like that ruclips.net/video/ZwObY6KMBXs/видео.htmlsi=uvpx_yl5yzHwDZ8Y really amazing, wonderful, and unique. How can it be compared to classical music? Because I see a difference in the use of musical instruments, as Sami Youssef’s music has a varied use of instruments, and classical music was mostly piano and strings. I really like classical music but just thinking If you are afraid to open the link, this is the name of the music track: (sami yusuf- L'amour vivant | when paths meet vol 2.)
Love the content Dr. B
Thanks!
Your content is very good
Thank you!
שלום עליך, חברי הטוב
Wonderful
Thank you.
Have you ever read the book or watched the movie Ender's Game? I just watched it, and it feels like an Oikophobic mess. It almost seems like it was based on the current Israel war, although it was made far before it. Spoilers: It basically teaches that even if we are faced with what is seemingly an existential threat, we should not fight back, because there's a chance that the enemy doesn't mean harm and is just misunderstood. If we didn't know this, and if we acted as if the enemy truly was a threat, and we then inflicted major casualties on what turns out to have been a misunderstood group, then we forever bare the guilt for our crimes (again, despite the fact that we acted in self defense based on all available data). In the movie, they call this ultimate battle "the battle to end all battles" or something like that. This refers to their goal of completely neutralizing the threat, not because the threat deserves to go, but because the threat is too dangerous. This sounds a lot like the Israel war, but instead of coming to the conclusion that we must sometimes do extreme things (like the nuclear bombs in Japan) to end war, they come to the opposite conclusion. They basically advocate for the side that is asking Israel to lose their war, because the number of casualties is disproportional. (There's also other bad ideologies, but I'm focusing only on this one.)
I haven't, but I don't see much connection between what you describe and the current conflict. Obviously in our case the enemy does mean harm, beyond any doubt, and we're not dealing with a misunderstanding.
@@BenedictBeckeld The leftist theory about Hummus is that they are just misunderstood and that if we were to cater to their demands, then they would suddenly put down the arms, because at heart, Hummus isn't evil, they're just victims who are acting out of desperation. This is the same thing pushed by the movie when they suggest that they should've assumed that the aliens were simply misunderstood, despite the fact that the aliens attacked earth.
@@BenedictBeckeld The leftist theory about Hummus is that they are just misunderstood and that if we were to cater to their demands, then they would suddenly put down the arms, because at heart, Hummus isn't bad, they're just victims who are acting out of desperation. This is the same thing pushed by the movie when they suggest that they should've assumed that the aliens were simply misunderstood and acting out of desperation, despite the fact that the aliens attacked earth.
@@BenedictBeckeld The leftist theory about Hummus is that they are just misunderstood and that if we were to cater to their demands, then they would suddenly put down the arms, because at heart, they aren't 👎, they're just victims who are acting out of desperation. This is the same thing pushed by the movie when they suggest that they should've assumed that the aliens were simply misunderstood and acting out of desperation, despite the fact that the aliens originally descended upon earth.
@@BenedictBeckeld It's true that the actual intention of the enemy is different, but they didn't know it until the end. Throughout the entire movie they thought that they were fighting for survival. In the end, once they realize that the aliens are nice, they should've concluded "tough luck, we acted based on all available information" instead of "we are bad because we didn't endanger earth for potential peace."
Gentleman/scholar 🙂👏
What an absolute idiot! Completely disregard averages in statistics to be able to cherry pick. A load of waffle talking about ifs and buts. The fact that people have been brainwashed into thinking america is one of the freer countries is laughable.
Wonderful, Dr. B ❤
Thank you, my dear.
Even Plato's Republic requires religious belief in something.
Indeed.
Bravo!! Especially about your comments on multiculturalism and its historical record.
@@njbobf Thank you!
And on the other side does History not show cultures who follow a more religious doctrine are more bigoted, come to violence and war oversaid religions?
That question cannot be answered as such, because there are too many other factors beyond religion that play a role in more religious civilizational phases and that contribute to war. What one can do is to compare different groups - religious and non-religious - of the same civilization of about the same time, and then the record is much more mixed.
Had Comrade Enver Hoxha lasted a little longer in power, I’m sure his atheist model would have worked out just fine 🤪. Ironically enough, when many quote the line “God is Dead” it is citing a line from a piece of Nietzsche’s work in part warning about the very thing you are arguing here.
Funny you should say that, because only yesterday that line - and what Nietzsche really meant by it - came up in an interview I gave here in Sweden.
@@BenedictBeckeld definitely gotta cite that Jungian Synchronicity. I watch a lot of the 🇸🇪 free ski/snowboard vids on here but hasn’t helped speak/understand it 🤪. Plus I was too busy replying to Bill Kristol’s posts on Twitter. Yeah I know you advised otherwise but comparing the RFK Jr endorsement of Trump to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was too much 🦇💩 crazy for even me.
@@andrewhosfeld That's what he said? Oy, he's out of his mind. As for Swedish, I kindly gave both my interviews here in English.
@@BenedictBeckeld awesome. I’ll check them out then. It was actually after reading about the ‘Madman’ in the ‘Gay Science’ it pushed me to look more on psychological reasons/motivations not just philosophical. Nietzsche’s arguments yes do pose a philosophical debate but I wondered if his motives for arguing atheism etc was from a psychological origin not just a philosophical one. Then learning about him & the horse pushed me even further down the psychological aspect. And yes Kristol is just that nuts. He cited the announcement occurring on the same day as the pact was signed. I’m a polo Sci major, I’ve heard nuts, but that was/is 🦇💩 crazy. I now know why Dan Quayle had a bad legacy. Have Kristol be your Chief of Staff and that’s what you get.
@@andrewhosfeld I think exploring the psychological aspect in Nietzsche, one he emphasized himself, is definitely a fruitful approach.
Yet, when religion declines we also happen to see the greatest growth in economic activity and technology whether that be the Age of Enlightenment or modern times.
I don’t see the correlation here. What religion says you can’t make stuff or engage in economics
@@burplemantis Religion sometimes gives easy answers that don't advance our understanding. "How did life form?" A religious person might answer: "God did it." And then have no reason to go looking for evidence of the specifics, which is exactly what happens. An atheist would answer "I don't know" and then have reason to go looking.
Where/ when has this mass atheism developed prior to the 20th century? An honest question.
I answer that question in the main video from which this clip is taken. (And for much more detail on this and other topics, see my "Western Self-Contempt".)
Social decline and moral deracination - that sounds familiar… I was also under the impression that we are the first guinea pigs heading towards utopia, so thanks for shattering my ignorance. The full video is called “The Substitution Hypothesis” if anyone else wants more of this.
Thanks, glad to hear it was helpful!
Very helpful, thank you
Thanks, glad to hear it!
There's so much to explore in this line of thinking. To an extent the founding of the EU was an expression of an assertive, top-down, delusion of European elites to do away with the dark, unmentionable, legacies of nationalism, imperialism, colonization, and in a sense a branding exercise against the US - rough, uncultured, a bit stupid, and unpredictable. The supra-sovereign delusion was driven by cultural self-loathing. The 90s Balkans conflict was also an irruption of that barbaric nationalist sentiment. The Europeans were embarrassed and ashamed by US air power acting decisively in the Balkans. And then outraged that the sanctified UN was bypassed in the Iraq context. So, time and time again European self-identity expressed in opposition to the US version of modernity. The US hubris in liberal interventionism is paralleled by European hubris that Europe had a sacred duty to clean up after US-led wars in the Middle East. And that it would succeed. (Succeed how? Has any mass migration EU state ever set success measures or metrics for the way the policy is going? Most seem terrified to even collect statistics.) How can this all happen, and continue for almost 10 years? A disastrous policy is usually overturned by voters after a couple of electoral cycles. I have a hunch it lies in the supra-sovereign delusion - that the connection between voters and governments, and between governments and the EU, means European policy is completely detached from voter sentiment. Voters are also detached from policy, and detached from any lingering sense that they may share responsibility and accountability for the policy. I've always thought that politics - as in electoral politics - is downstream from culture. That suggests some long and arduous years of stasis, before crisis finally changes the game.
What’s with putting up quotes without giving the source? Perhaps I missed the references but I don’t see them clearly set out. While I vociferously disagree with these bilge concepts I do look at these anti-Eurocentric illiterati so as to better understand their views. I’ve yet to find one of substantial intellectual heft, most are like James Blaut or Eric Hobsbawm, very rich in self-aggrandizement and plaudits from corrupt academicians but poverty stricken in the depth required by real historians.
In my videos I always put references, and only in this one did I make an exception, out of mere politeness, because the persons who said these things are in my professional/academic circle, and I'm using them purely as a foil for critique and mild ridicule.
Thank you for the reply, and I can see that-an entirely fair reason. Comity in the field is always to be appreciated, as is courtesy anywhere. Though it seems it is not necessarily reciprocated or followed in contemporary academia. The attack on Western Civilization seems to have brought with it a contempt for civility. Yours is certainly welcome.
So, the ones who enable us to have higher rates of banned chemicals and known carcinogens in our food, who have viewed poor people as no better then cannon fodder and rank-and-file workers for generations, and who seek to undermine the freedoms they say we have , they are our “own?” I’m not sure that I agree . Or at least, moralistically it does not strike me as problematic, if this Oikophobia is in reaction to the opinion / perception that a country is not serving its citizens properly. Then again, if there are those that can justify xenophobia then I can justify Oikophobia against an aggressive / corrupt / dishonest state