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I'd say it's more trial and error than luck. Once you get the right spot to knock on the wall, then it just becomes a matter of execution. It's surprisingly consistent. Although, the way i actually beat it in this attempt was... not what I was going for. In other successful attempts, the guard was better positioned and it looked less coincidental that i wouldn't be seen when applying the C4 on their back. I was just trying to optimize the timing a little, so i gave it a few more good attempts when... this run happened. It was too funny to not use lol

After some trying i did other strategy (one that took a looooong time) but worked Thanks for the video it helped to understand the level And so cool even after 10 years you answer comments

@@FelipeFurlan-cd7ez I'm glad it helped, that's exactly why i decided to put these missions on RUclips. These are by no means the only or even the best strategies you can use to beat them, but they can help or inspire someone to get to their version of the right way for them. I try my best to answer comments when i can, even though this isn't my job and it's more of a personal/passion thing, i like to interact with people who decide my stuff is worth their time. Even if it's just to say thanks or give a small explanation. :D

In theory, this successful attempt of mine should've been a failure. I walked up too far to the guard so they turned around when I stuck the C4 to them, but for some reason the wall's corner saved me from being seen. It was so lucky and unique that I had to leave that in and accept it. The mechanic is the same after all, I just didn't get punished for messing it up lol

@@RedSnake_9 I saw them turn in your attempt 'cause I just kept rewatching it to see what I was doing wrong and I started thinking I needed to knock in just the right place so that the wall would block their vision when they turned lol

I think when this came out, games on console were just starting to figure out how to FPS. I guess it makes sense that i feels like they had no idea, because they probably actually didn't, back then.

Lol right? I think it takes about the same time to roll off and stand back up as it takes to do a full 3 piece combo and then walk off. Plus, i was frustrated i missed the triple, only hitting the two targets behind me for some reason. I was gonna re-do it, but then i got first place anyway. Some levels are just meh enough that if i get first place, I'm ok with it looking sloppy. Others I'll replay until i get them down to a science.

Thanks! ❤ I don't love Weapon Mode, but some levels like level 5 here, I either liked the way they were set up, or I got so close to getting the right "path" on the first couple tries that I thought "might as well try to get it as close to perfect as I'm ok with". I gotta say, rewatching it now, it's pretty satisfying.

If you're playing on PS3, the way you aim your gun without actually firing is by not pressing the square button all the way in. That's if you still have a genuine PS3 controller with (or a compatible one that still has) pressure-sensitive face buttons. You press it halfway in to raise your gun, all the way in to shoot. I'm assuming you fail because you press it all the way in and the gun fires, alerting the enemies. If you can't gradually press the shooting button a little harder, little by little, until you raise the gun without firing, you probably have a compatible PS3 Controller without those pressure sensitive buttons, and I think you just can't do those missions.

@@RedSnake_9 thank so much it actually work I’m very close to the platinum ❤

@@redfox917 Happy to help! :D

It's not the integral version, it's the regular. What do you mean not possible? If you're holding a C4 you'll face the wall when taking cover, however if you start moving alongside it, Snake will turn and put his back to it. That's just an "older game" thing.

@@RedSnake_9 wtf you are right, the master collection version has a shitty analog adaptation, i was only able to do this with the d-pad. and thanks for the video, i was smashing my head to complete mission 09

I did hear that the Master collection still has some "minor" problems with the analog sticks, so that's not entirely on you. Glad I could help! :D

There are two types of people: those who love the sniping mission, and those who hate it.

You have so much health, the fastest way is to tank and destroy lol

I got my platinum for MGS1 on the Master Collection.

@@anojahs29 Let's go! Nice job! :D

Comments like this make my day. It's weird for me to hear myself called a RUclipsr, I'm just a dude that happens to love gaming and sometimes put some of that gaming here. It surprises me every time to see that people actually watch these and even find them helpful. Congrats on the platinum, and thanks! :D

@@RedSnake_9 I’ve seen plenty of your videos you are like the best of the best.

@@anojahs29 Aw, thank you! :D

Maybe they'll do it if MGS resurrects with the Remake and all that.

@@RedSnake_9 They should. It would sell

I don’t get it. I attach it to the guard and he sees me immediately.

@@Tomweldonsays yeah it takes a really delicate touch. Don't give up, you'll figure it out.

Yeah, i've tried a few different strategies, but I always ended up taking longer than just going alert + lethal. Maybe you can find the perfect pattern to make it work with non-lethal given enough time, but after a few tries I just decided it was enough and that this worked better anyway.

Thank you, thank you. :D

It's funny, because that's the fun part to me. I see it as a puzzle game: you're given a stage and some tools and you have to find the fastest/most efficient way to solve it. In a weird way, it's never been "can i beat it?" for me, just "how well can I beat it?". I'm also apparently one of the few people who's never found MGS controls to be problematic, or clunky or whatever. Biggest problem I've ever had was playing these with a half busted controller. I think in some of the Weapon Mode missions, if you pay attention, you can see me fight against analog drift to aim at targets lol

@@RedSnake_9 I totally understand. But then on the other hand, I prefered the more puzzle-like approach of the original MGS VR missions more, where you had a specific task and had to figure out how to do it (I'm specifically talking about the "Puzzle" variant). To me MGS2 VR missions often feels like I'm running against a consecutive set of walls head first and trying to figure out where the individual weak spots are, but that's probably because I easily get frustrated with trial-and-error-like approaches. Eventually I get there, but I just doesn't feel as rewarding as when you solved a puzzle. Mabye I'm just growing too impatient with some games as I grow old, which makes me appreciate your video guides even more! If you even managed to get the highscore with a busted controller, then you have my utmost respect. By biggest issue with the controlst is mainly the aiming. It's better in MGS3, but especially in MGS2 it's too sensitive and it's very difficult to carefully aim at a far-away target. It's even worse so on the PSG1. I do have some fond memories of my older brother playing MGS2 and me watching him back in the days and I did beat the game on the master collection several times since it came out, including extreme, but especially the PSG1 section I something I always dread.

@@Dragonfyre137 You do have a point with MGS1's feeling more puzzley, but I don't think it's as stark of a difference. It's less consistent in MGS2 and there's also more missions, so you go from a great puzzle mission to less inspired designs and i think that's when you notice it most. Maybe you are right and it's a problem of patience, though. Modern gaming has kinda destroyed that, sometimes I also find myself rushing things in games I don't fully 100% love, but any minute spent in MGS or in a Resident Evil game figuring out a boss battle... that's where my fun is. As far as the aiming goes, that's the only thing I agree with the controls being "old". Not being able to change the sensitivity of your aiming in 2024 is kinda painful. You either get used to it or not, there's no alternatives. I'm lucky and I've spent so many hours in these games, that even not playing for years after playing a bit it just comes back to me, like riding a bike. It's muscle memory.

Let's see. We have 15 stages for sneaking, and that has them 4 times (no weapon, no weapon time attack, socom, socom time attack, and we're at 60. Then weapon mode has 8 weapons, 5 missions each, normal and time attack, so that's 80 more. We're at 140. Advanced mode is the same as Weapon Mode, that's 80 more, which brings us to 220. Then we have 9 1 min battles (8 weapons, plus no weapon) vs target and 9 more vs enemy, taking us to 238. 8 vs 12 battles, so 246. Mystery is 10, 256, Puzzle is 10 as well, 266, Variety is 13, 279, there's one VR Mission, 280, Ninja has 3 missions, 283, and NG Selection has 8 more for a total of 291. So your count is right. I guess they count the VR Missions on the main game's disc too. The normal 10 would be enough to go over 300, but those also have time attack mode, and gun shooting mode, for a total of 30 extra missions, plus the one Survival Mode (all gun shooting mode missions in one go) taking the total to 322.

@@RedSnake_9 MGS VR Missions was sold separately from MGS1, so they can't count those. It's 291 minus 110 practice missions, for a total of only 181 unique missions. They lied and gypped us. But they later made up for it with 511 Substance missions, even though many are repetitive.

Nevermind it helps to read

Thank you! :D

No problem! It always feels cool to think that someone actually finds these useful! :D

That's weird, what platform are you playing on?

@@RedSnake_9 Xbox x. Doesn’t matter now anyway. I got to 85%, which is all I wanted for the ninja missions.

@@dakota3049That's still kinda weird, but hey, if it works for you... Just in case, you're holding A while you aim/shoot with X, right? I feel like this should be a bigger deal if it's a thing for everybody. I don't have the collection yet, so I don't know if it's a known issue or not.

@@RedSnake_9did not know about holding A lol. Didn’t think about that button since it makes you crouch.

@@dakota3049 Yeah, older games aren't exactly known for their straightforward controls lol

Yeah, the aiming with an AR is so weird. I remember back in the PS2 days, i had the pressure sensitive spot saved in my muscle memory and could do it probably better than the L3 version now. I probably can't do it anymore, so I'd have to get used to it too, but man, I can't remember the last time i used a pressure sensitive controller, it may have actually been on the PS2, unless the PS3's sixaxis had them too, I honestly can't remember. Just keep trying, eventually you'll figure it out. Once you get accustomed to it, the only thing stopping you is timing and execution, and that should be even faster to get right, especially if you can replicate someone else's strats like mine in this video, for example. Good luck! :D

Yeah, it definitely isn't. It's more like something they tried and decided to give us. My guess is that, when they decided to port this for Windows, they experimented on letting you control the chracter in First Person, so that it would feel better with a mouse and keyboard. Then they either didn't have the time or the budget to make it polished, so they just relegated it to a few extra missions.

You're welcome! Glad to hear that! :D

Someone asked in this comment section already, but in Spanish. I don't speak much spanish so I replied in english and, since I also don't speak French (I know enough to understand the question, but that's it lol), I'll copy and paste that same answer here: while you aim (Square on PlayStation, X on Xbox) you hold the crouch button (X on PlayStation, A on Xbox) and then you can move around while aiming/shooting. Hope this helps!

You're welcome! Glad I could help! :D

It's a fun one. To this day I still don't know why I didn't optimize the last wave of tengus+soldiers more than this, i feel like it can be done much better. Good luck though, you got this! :D

@@RedSnake_9 I DID IT! I MADE IT! I'M DONE WITH THESE GODFORSAKEN VR MISSIONS. …now I just need to collect all the dog tags...

@@veggiekid23 Congrats! Just in time for the New Year!

You gotta take some very specific lines. It's absurdly tight timing: if you step on one guard (which slows you down) you basically need to restart, and it's the same thing if you take a turn too wide. I'm not sure if being perfect would let you roll into the goal, but I opted for the slightly safer roll to the side, as attempting to get a perfect run would take soooo long.

200 tries but i got level 7.

and i'm done. yay! now for the 78 OTHER msg1 snake missions...

Nah, you got this! :D

I did it. on to tuxedo snake

@@veggiekid23 See? Told ya! ;)

Yeah, it's to make him go where I want. I think I didn't like how inconsistent it was to try and cool the bomb while the guard went the other way, i felt like if someone wasn't fast/precise enough, they couldn't replicate what I was doing and think it was impossible. So i came up with a way to make it more consistent. Just call his attention, he'll either see you or the body, move over there, and you walk around the opposite side and have more than enough time to freeze the bomb. You can probably do it without it, but if you're familiar with speedruns, this is what I'd call a "safe strat".

It's probably the easiest one of the bunch. You can simply memorize where the "lines" of enemies pass and wait for them there. If you miss a few shots, you'll catch them on the next one.

I don't speak Russian, but this is the one word I actually know! You're welcome! :D