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Nice investigative research. My family was in WWCG in the 80s. I grew up in an offshoot. Although I still observe The Sabbath & Holy Days, as they belong to God, not this church.. but I no longer hold certain beliefs this church forces on you. (Different view points are not welcome). I see many things differently... & I left the church almost 2 yrs now. Though I was not in LCG, I know they still proclaim they are "the true church" which is a false teaching & a wrong heart of pride. I have also learned a lot about Freemasons & the illuminati... a lot of occult symbolism is indeed "hidden in plain sight". Sounds like this gift was certainly no coincidence.

No one sent 3 tithes to headquarters. The 2nd tithe is kept to spend by the person who saved it.

Armstrong was an antichrist. The Catholic Church has proven throughout the ages that it alone is the one Church established by God to guide and reconcile humanity back to God.

YES DUDE !!!!

When Will The next episode be online? Can’t wait. I remember so well my mother really adored him, because of these meetings all around The world. I was to small to start asking these so logical questions .. Corina (The Netherlands)

Thanks for the stuff man I grew up with the worldwide Church of God and my family and it still affects my family as the Living Church of God

Herbert had a bad trait of praising himself and claiming things that were not true. He was not making anywhere near a $million in today's rates in Chicago, he was an utter failure. He listened to a guy on a radio show and went home and told Loma, "I know how we're going to get rich." He was not "the first televangelist, that was Bishop Fulton Sheen. He wasn't even the first radio evangelist, that was a Daniel Paul Rader, I find no relationship between him and Stanley Rader. There were over 6000 people in SFO for that first Untied Nations conference, this is basically meaningless, more horn tooting. "...I arranged for a private conference..." means he took tithe money and bought the meeting. There could have been no other reason for that meeting, and I'd bet others also paid to be in that meeting as well, there were likely less than five minutes spent with a nobody from Pasadena, there were, on the other hand 850 delegates from nations around the world, people who actually were in a gov't somewhere. What possible "logical and convincing story" could the Arabs have had? All his "travels in Europe and the Middle East" were paid for with widows' mites. As to Loma being the "only one who could tell him 'No'," where was she with a no when he was molesting Dorothy? He traveled with his own photographer, so the fact that he appeared in photos with them is no big deal. I have shaken hands with three U.S. Presidents, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, and GHW Bush 41, even had a conversation with Barbara Bush, but there is no meaning in that to anyone other than to me. That, "remarkable door" that opened in 1967 was Loma died, and she had tried to rein him in, but now he was free, and the cash was rolling in from the sheeple. Mr. Goto bought all those meetings, and the little old ladies' pensions paid the fare. There's a Proverb that fits in where Herbie claims he has "probably met with more...in their offices..." - "May a stranger praise you and not your mouth, an alien and not your lips." Mishlei 27:4. This self-anointed "ambassador"...never once brought about peace, but Jared Kushner, who worked for Trump, did with the Abrahamic Accords, and Jared has not once patted himself on the back. The Envoy impressing a world leader, much less many of them, is ludicrous, and, yes, laughable. So he met with the U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam, a guy who participated in the murders of Diem and his brother, and he's bragging about meeting the murderous dude? Where did Marcos spend his golden years? Oh, in prison. Let's get one thing straight, The LORD's "chosen one" is Israel, not Jc. Please don't go onto the "Free Masons are evil kick". Like any group there are good and there are bad among the Masons, but the overall org is not evil. Herbie and the Oblisks how appropriate since he is the only alleged "apostle" who wrote a book the explained his idea about the use of the penis, graphics and all. The Lucifer you and Herbie refer to from the Tanakh was Nebuchadnezzar, he declared that HE was Venus, the bright morning star, in the Babylonian language it wasn't Venus, it was Lucifer, and it was Nebuchadnezzar who "fell from heaven - a high place" and with him one-third of the luminaries - leaders of Babylon also fell, not from their posts, but they fell for nonsense, like we're seeing today with 1057 different "genders" and a list of pronouns longer than an Ayn Rand book. Ha Satan is NOT Lucifer, and Lucifer is NOT Ha Satan. I see the link between the obelisks, phallic symbols, and such, but I do not see anything implying they are "uncircumcised", they look more like they're circumcised. To be blunt, where is the foreskin? The level of arrogance that Herbie the Pervie had is demonstrated by his decision to allow Buddhists monks to come en masse to his funeral. And make no mistake, HWA, like Ronald Reagan, planned every aspect of his funeral.

"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. I do not receive glory from people. But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him". -Jesus

I grew up in this cult, my parents joined them in 1965 when I was 7 yrs old, I left when I was 24. When trump came on the scene politically in 2015 I said to myself, " I've seen and lived through this shit before".

Some of you have your heads buried in the sand. The hwa prophecies that some of you claim failed are being fulfilled. You're not watching world news closely enough. And you are blind to what is happening, and even to what has already happened! Germany is rapidly building its military, just as prophesied! And the United States is definitely headed for Civil War ... also prophesied.. Declassified Military Intelligence Report Ew Pa 128...better look it up and CAREFULLY read it, then read it again! Then take a look at the German led EU! Prophecy being fulfilled!

My dad probably donated 40 to 50% of his take home pay to this cult. We were not allowed to celebrate Christmas, Easter and most other holidays.

Worldwide church was a haven for narcissistic people.

A lot of inaccuracies and misrepresentations here in this 60 Minutes report. I was in the wcg, I was there , and I know what went on. So many lies were told against Mr Armstrong and the wcg that the case was thrown out of court. Critics of Mr Armstrong and the wcg always fail to tell you that.

Jesus Christ never built a church that disobeyed laws like this church, and so ultimately the WCG fell apart splitting into hundreds of disagreeing groups, none of which keeps ALL of God's commandments, statutes and judgments to this day, Ex.22:16,17 being just one example of a judgment refused to be taught by the ministry at all costs. "Do you know what THAT would DO to the Church?", one minister replied when asked if that judgment should be taught. He refused to answer the question at all. Then there is the international date line issue that is another problem for the ministry, especially those headquartered in Oceania. Remember that Scripture says that those that be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and that certainly happened to the ministers of WCG. None of their ministries now agree one with the other, and most of them turned over the sovereignty of Jesus Christ to the "US Govt" by becoming a 501(c)3 organization to let their members get tax exempt status to their tithes and offerings given to the Church. Christ never did anything like that in His ministry when He walked the earth. Christ never followed the Jew's calendar of Hillel II with its postponements of Holydays either. No wonder WCG doesn't exist any more. God allowed it to get destroyed, and many of its early leaders have now died. It was nearly 30 years ago that they gave up keeping God's sabbaths also, if they every kept them on the right days to start with, whilst following the Jew's Hillel II calendar and never keeping the correct new moon days, which are not one of the six "working days": Ezekiel 46:1,3. The Apostles always told the people to prove all things and hold fast to that which is True.

Stanely Rader and Mike Wallace? Two crooks talking to each other.

And the one that came back was a Samaritan: "And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine? There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger." Lk 17:17-18

Churchs in general beat on their kids. Over correct. Poor kids.

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It sounds like Mr. Armstrong was teaching the western way in his visits to the Asian and sub Asian continents.

This guy is unbelievable 'Stanley Rader, he got no QUILTY CONSCIOUS! They misused offerings and tithes of Worldwide Church for a very longtime. The unbelievable conclusion that Herbert W. Armstrong did not fire Stanley Rader because he happened to know too much about Armstrong and his family misused tithes and offering for a very, very longtime.

He had a change of heart. Sure he did. The reptilians stepped in

You all want freedom from law to commit sin in pleasure unmitigated unlimited umredtrained!! That is grace to you!! To have the whole cake eat it and still expect the cake to be there.

All of u wanted salvation by grace. No law!! Well tell me which of the ten commandments is wrong and you wouldnt want to keep? Is it adultery? Murder? Idolatry? Stealin? Answer!! You are guilty!!!!! Armstrong was right!!

No matter what you all thought and think, this Church was the only true Church that had God's approval!! Remember they called Jesus Christ an imposter, bealzebub and they ssid He worked by the power of the devil! As Jesus Himself said" you say if you were in the days of your fathers, you would not have killed the prophets" so they admit by their own position that they are of the same. Assisnating mr armstrong!! They and you all will PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They despised church members who were the poor among them!!!!

I was raised in the church- still I am scared. (Of everything )

HWA & Rader were insensed? the very proof of guilt!

Color me skeptical. Every few years someone tries to resurrect Herbert the pervert, not literally, but they try to resurrect a shred of character. He was a conman who told YOU (author), me, and all us "sheeple" to only eat meats The Torah allows Israel to eat, but unless you're a Jew, see Bereshit 9, The Torah says you can eat any meats, except human, or the meat of an animal that is still alive, all while Herbie ate lobster, shrimp, or as a Rabbi friend of mine put it, "ocean cockroaches". I met HWA when I was five in a little anteroom off the old stage in the old "Redwood Building" in Big Sandy in about 1960, every student at Imperial Schools went sent in, I was duly impressed at the time, and "familiarity did breed, in me, contempt of the man". Every meeting he had was paid for, THOU$AND$ of your and my "tithes and offerings" paid for that man's narcissistic self-promotion. To paint him as having met more leaders than any other, 'cept maybe Kissinger and Pope JPII, is simply not true. I dare say Churchill met more, Thatcher met more, Reagan met more, I know Goerge HW Bush met more, I'm sure Gorbachev met more, I imagine the former Nazi Officer and one-time Sec Gen of the U.N. Kurt Waldheim met more, I bet Mandela met more, and I know there are SCORES of other humans who met more than Herbie. Now some facts, neither David Ben Gurion the "Father of Modern Israel", nor Golda Meir "The Mother of Modern Israel", zt''l even mention him in their memories, or in interviews shortly before they passed on. I'd bet if you asked Bibi Netanyahu what he thought of Herbie, he would ask you, "Who?" Herbie is known in Jerusalem because we paid for a park to be named for him. Your production was well done, your video, your graphics, all professional, but where are you going? Are you going to paint him as some "Elijah"? A Navi? There's an old saying, "The apple doesn't far fall from the tree", and where did GTA land? Herbert was a curiosity who gave them, or some "charity (they're all scams too)" they supported, and they listened to him for pay. As to the "four-hour meeting", seriously, you bought that? More likely he sat in an anteroom and waited four hours to see the guy for 5 minutes and a handshake. Still, I'll wait for your next production in which you're sure to tell us that he was "God's man on the planet", which he wasn't. Yeshayahu 45:5 "אֲנִ֚י יְהֹוָה֙ וְאֵ֣ין ע֔וֹד זֽוּלָתִ֖י אֵ֣ין אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֲאַזֶּרְךָ֖ וְלֹ֥א יְדַעְתָּֽנִי"

Great production! Looking forward to the next parts.

Both my parents were born into this church (in the 60s - I think my mom was 4yo when her parents joined) and met each other at Ambassador; they left when I turned 8 or 9 (in the 90s). Deconstruction is a slow journey, and I am thankful that they had the courage to begin that journey. I got to watch my parents explore their own belief systems, grow, and evolve. I got to watch them befriend and welcome people from different religions (or no religion). But, if something is repeated to you vehemently and incessantly from the moment you are born... it doesn't easily leave your subconscious, unless you do some very intentional work. I remember my dad casually telling me once that as a child he never thought he would live past his 9th birthday (until he did of course). But, that deeply rooted fear that "the end" would come never really left him. It just became packaged into something that sounded more sophisticated and plausible "political unrest" "studying history" "keeping an eye on geo-political events"... a narrative that didn't sound "culty" or "doomsday-ish" that vibed even with the well-educated, non-religious people in his life. But, behind the scenes, I observed the upending... the paranoia. The incessant study. The need to make an escape plan. I just didn't understand it then. He decided to buy property overseas (in a rather peaceful, under-the-radar part of the world, not totally "off-grid" but tucked away in a small, quiet town), talking about the need to have alternatives, to be able to live safely and peacefully if things got "really bad." He died a few month after making the purchase. Now, I see so clearly that that 9 -year-old boy was still terrified that things might become catastrophic (at least in our part of the world)... and I recognize now that his internalized belief system is a very large part of why he died. He wasn't well. Things had been slowly eroding for a few years... in a way that as a teen and young adult... I simply didn't understand. He was acting different. Stress and fear were eating him alive. Years later, when I realized that he named the property Place of Safety (the name WCG used for the place God would harbor members of the church during end times).. it honestly broke my heart just a little bit. I'm not angry... my parents also intentionally made the choice not to be angry about their childhoods... telling us that they preferred to remember the good things like community and friendships, even if they were (to the best of their ability) letting go of belief systems that no longer made sense to them. I am sad though. Very sad. Sad that these kinds of organization take hold of people's minds and lives in ways that sometimes never leave them. That can form the basis for how they see the world... and deeply affect their mental well-being. A deeply embedded belief system that must be constantly unraveled. Sad that a narrative of doom and fear fed week after week to a child from the moment he was born... played a significant part in taking from me someone that I loved (and love) very, very much.

They get the gayest man to go interview the most religious people. SMH.

A relative of mine, who was very high up and deep in the early days of the WWCG, just told me this after I sent him this video: The reason Herbert came back and supported Rader is that Rader supplied women for him in Japan and other places. At the end when Rader gained control he had his secretary marry Herbert

Anyone who knows these people also knows that Garner Ted was as corrupt - if not more - than his dad and the accountant. There were a lot of married women who passed through his bedroom and their husbands couldn’t do anything about it.

Wow! Very disappointed about this also, that he believes the Mason's are the unseen Hand of God. Also, Anyone who support taking away land from Israel for peace is against God. That is in scripture.

Allah is not Yehovah!

So basically, the so-called modern day "Illuminati" got a hold on HWA, hence the hidden hand reference. Wow!

I thought that He sent His only Son and spoke through HIM about Himself and The Truth.

No one else is giving you the TRUTH but God is giving it to you by me? Im glad he did not say that: " I am the truth, the way, the resurrection and that MY WORDS ARE THE SPIRIT AND THE LIFE. 35 years I have believed him and that this church was God's church until, just like the pharisee of pharisees, Paul of Tarsus met the One and Only, then and only then his eyes were open when he met his Maker. John the baptist said, man is of the earth earthy, therefore he speaks earthy things, the One that comes from heaven speaks what He have Heard and what have he seen ans No one accepts His testimony. Mr Armstrong proclaimed religion, a lethal mixture of Law and Grace ( I did not know it then) Just imagine mixing the blood of a calf and the goat (old Covenant) with the Blood of the Creator Himself. That's wat I was part of for 35 long years yet didn't know my Savior from a bar of soap, untill the religion I was in spued me out for giving Jesus answer to the preacher's question. Then and only then that I prayed to Him to take away all the false hood that the man has tought me and teach me what you intend me to know. All his word are in RED for a silly buggers like me. That's when I have exited Religion. 35 years is a long time but had me in charge(like a school master, preschool, kindergarten) until the Parent came home and payed off the babysitter ( the Law)and sent him home. I don't condemn the Man, He was useful in my life untill I've unswered God's Call. Read Samuel, God called him, he ruined to the preacher (religion), 3 times. Once was what It took for me. Cheers, wander how many will get the piont. It's not a hate coment so hayters need not to reply, God Bless.

You run the painful truth account??

"A great hand reaches out from the unseen and regulates the affairs of man." Manly P Hall

While ignoring the one and only who was sent and comanded on What to say and How to say it and to Finish Father's work. It was not to bring peace to the world. It was to finish the second part of Let us make man in our Image and in OUR LIKNESS. The image only was finished on the sixth day, the second part was accomplished on the cross 4.000 years later when Jesus said IT IS FINISHED. And by the sacrifice of Himself HE completed the work of making man in their Likness, Perfect And Holy. Heb. 10:9; 14. Jesus didn't bring peace but the sword. How many amraced the Redeemer after the impostor was removed, I haven't met one :-( 😢

This was a mess... what a farce... my family was torn apart because of this organization 😢😢😢 SO SAD

OMG.... the good ole'days 😢😢😢

The 3rd temple is not a deception ! To say it is so is to call God a liar. But God cannot lie - Titus 1:2 I've seen this lie floating around somewhere else on u tube as well. God has spoken about a third temple so much in the bible, its not a deception. Ezekiel talks alot about a third temple and the people of Israel will resume sacrifices. They won't do it without an altar or in the middle of the street, they will have a temple.

who was that lady, she said let me ask you something, then she proceeded to make a statement. She says the Dome is going to go, but the Dome will stay there according to God, they will build it side by side as the word in Ezekiel says, there will be a wall separating them. Ezekiel 42:20

He said Harry Potter is a good story - (No its not 🤣) Then he said the bible is not a story it is Gods way to lead us 💗

He was a hireling as usual. Equation of Yah as Allah is blasphemy.

"The Bible is not a story. The Bible is the way of God to lead us." 💀

What a loada Bull 😂😂