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Jose Araujo
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Добавлен 8 мар 2019
First working Switchwire Klicky Probe
Designed by my and tested by Patrice, still a work in progress, you can get more details here "github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe/tree/main/Printers/Voron/Switchwire"
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First Klicky Switchwire prototype
Просмотров 4,8 тыс.2 года назад
Develloped by JosAr and Patrice over on Voron Discord
Klicky longer probe final part on a Tiny-M
Просмотров 2 тыс.2 года назад
These are the probing points: // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at -4.000,144.500 is z=24.395750 // probe at -4.000,144.500 is z=24.392625 // probe at -4.000,144.500 is z=24.392000 // probe at 61.000,7.000 is z=24.323250 // probe at 61.000,7.000 is z=24.322000 // probe at 61.000,7.000 is z=24...
Klicky beta Unklicky switch on a Tiny-M
Просмотров 7 тыс.2 года назад
Still a beta version, but this has a 30g activation force, perfect for cantilever beds and is crazy accurate. Generic information about the Unklicky concept here github.com/majarspeed/Unklicky These are the probing points: // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at 131.500,145.500 is z=24.399500 // probe at -4.000,144.500 is z=24.395750 // ...
Wiring a Klicky probe for a Voron V0.1
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.2 года назад
Wiring a Voron V0.1 Klicky probe
Wiring the Klicky probe integrated cowling probe mount on a Voron V0.1
Просмотров 9272 года назад
How to wire the Klicky integrated Voron v0.1 cowling mount
Installing the Voron V0.1 klicky integrated cowling mount
Просмотров 3562 года назад
How to install on a Voron V0.1 the Klicky integrated cowling mount, it needs a specific cowling
Klicky-Probe on a Voron V0.1, running probe accuracy
Просмотров 8 тыс.2 года назад
Results: // probe accuracy results: maximum 13.345000, minimum 13.337500, range 0.007500, average 13.340125, median 13.340000, standard deviation 0.001474 More information will be published on github later. github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe
Klicky-Probe on a Voron V0.1 running bed mesh
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 года назад
More information will be published on github later. github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe
Klicky-Probe on a Voron V0.1 running klipper screws tilt adjust
Просмотров 9 тыс.2 года назад
Result: 01:20 means 1 full turn and 20 minutes, CW=clockwise, CCW=counter-clockwise front screw (base) : x=50.0, y=5.0, z=13.18750 back left : x=0.0, y=115.0, z=13.24500 : adjust CCW 00:07 back right : x=105.0, y=115.0, z=13.25000 : adjust CCW 00:07 More information will be published on github later. github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe
Tiny-M with Klicky Probe doing Klipper SCREWS_TILT_CALCULATE
Просмотров 14 тыс.3 года назад
This is a Tiny-M 3D printer using a Klicky probe github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe to calculate the screw movements necessary to level the bed. 01:20 means 1 full turn and 20 minutes, CW=clockwise, CCW=counter-clockwise Back_right (base) : x=144.5, y=144.5, z=16.66950 Back_left : x=5.5, y=144.5, z=16.63700 : adjust CW 00:04 Front_Center: x=74.0, y=6.0, z=16.65700 : adjust CW 00:02 The probe accurac...
Tiny-M with Klicky Probe calibrating the Z offset
Просмотров 8 тыс.3 года назад
Tiny-M with Klicky Probe calibrating the Z offset
M6L RaceRender with Exiftool GPS data decoding
Просмотров 975 лет назад
M6L RaceRender with Exiftool GPS data decoding
help pls. my configuration klickprobe ?
What's the name of that toolhead?
The plethora of choice are just insane and there does not seem to be a decent repository that helps a person decide between them for their specific use case.
you are not wrong, i will update the V0.2 soon, and it should have a main/recommended option
What controller board are you using? Those steppers are pretty loud
may I have your config files
Did you fix it? I would like to make one too
The more complex of a leveling system a person has, the less serious about 3d printing they are. If a user cant turn 4 screws to level a bed, that user isn't smart enough for 3d printing. Math.
Lol or just very lazy to bother😂
If you have to manually level the bed youre not serious about 3d printing at all
@@Fantastika Turning 4 screws is too difficult, for you.
@@tazanteflight8670 my ABL will have better first layer accuracy than you can ever hope to achieve
I like how the wires and the clicky make the carriage look like a person working at a call center with a headset
What a Clean Build :) I'm Building a Switchwire Conversion and will test your Klicky probe
What Z belt mod is that?
Why do you probe so many times? I think with any possible deviation you could get using one click per location that you'll still get perfect first layers. Is there another reason?
But that set up is very cool. Is it set up for 0 xy offset?
the objective is to average the errors, you can configure as a single probe. the offset is not 0,but pretty close.
Nice
Thanks for the video! Looks good, but a little concerned about the THUMP each time the klicky touches the bed. It should be almost silent. I'd be worried you might be bottoming out the probe, which could reduce accuracy/repeatability and eventually damage the switch. So I'd recommend slowing down the Z leveling speed until you don't hear the thumps.
those are the motors turning off, it happen even on switches with a long travel after triggering
link: error 404
try this one, it's now merged with the maib repository github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe/tree/main/Printers/Voron/Switchwire
Thanks, after watched your video, I decided to install klicky probe on my V0.1!
could you provide a link to STL? I cannot find the mount for Tiny M
you can find them here: github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe/blob/main/Printers/Tiny-M/STL/Tiny-M_STL.stl, the probe parts are here github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe/tree/main/Probes/KlickyProbe
I will try this on my Ender Switchwire. Looks realy great.
do you know where you can get the files and instructions?
Hi, can you share the link for installing and commissioning the probe please? Thank you 👍🏻
Hi, can you share the link for installing and commissioning the probe please? Thank you 👍🏻
Are you able to run Auto Z calibration with this set up?
sadly no, it needs a dedicated Z endstop that can touch the nozzle and switch body
I don't understand why you need this
better immunity from temperature changes with a switch and the possibility to use it as a Z virtual endstop
@@josearaujo5204 you can do the same with a bltouch or an inductive probe
@@pauhull the switch has a better temperature immunity, it does not drift as much. and it's more reliable and cheaper than a bltouch
@@josearaujo5204 a cheap bltouch clone works just as well and isn't as overengineered
@@pauhull you are entitled to your opinion 😎, with that said, there are multiple probe options, this is just one of them
Gorgeous Printer it looks so clean in white and blue
Can you share a video of how it works mechanically?
you can check the github from the creator of the unklicky concept, github.com/majarspeed/Unklicky#but-how-does-it-work it has a much better explanation that what i could place here
@@josearaujo5204 Just curious as to why its more accurate.
@@ZorAxe not a definitive answer, we are working on the assumption that the microswitch spring sometimes has a different behavior, the switches need to be more robust and carry a certain current, unklicky has no such requirements or needs
@@ZorAxe the reason why it's more accurate is because it's a simple open close switch instead of measuring the bounce induced by triggering a bl touch
@Jose Araujo i would also say it's so accurate, there's no point in probing each spot 3x or even twice. You can test that in klipper, as I'm sure you know. Also i run you can tweak your dock y location a touch, if you haven't already
That's pretty slick! 👍
thanks, works way better than i expected
just curious, why not use the quickdraw probe for switchwire? i do love that however
One of the design goals of klicky is to allow for the use of virtual Z endstop, the current quickdraw mounts do not support that. This one does, that is why, there is now a version for switchwire. it will also support KlickyNG that has semi enclosed magnets that won't fall off.
I feel like an idiot to ask, but how did you get the klicky mounted to the toolhead? Cannot find any mounting stuff for the toolhead
it's in the cad here github.com/jlas1/Klicky-Probe/blob/main/CAD/KlickyProbe_v2_v58.step
13:44:11 probe accuracy results: maximum 3.400000, minimum 3.400000, range 0.000000, average 3.400000, median 3.400000, standard deviation 0.000000 (CRTOUCH)
Great that that solution works for you. most users see an improvement with a microswitch, not the least with the less temperature dependent output.
tell me please a bit about that leadscrew in the background. why is it black and how is it black?🧐
this is the integrated leadscrew motor that came with this Voron V0 ldo kit, I guess it's black because its faster that way. :-) (don't know why it's black)
@@josearaujo5204 thank you very much 🤓
@@Hunihunor90 I believe it’s black because it’s a POM coating, the same material that the lead screw nut is made out of. Also the same material that V wheels on the Ender style printers is made out of, the material doesn’t have to be lubricated.
@@anthonyplana8140 must get one of these for my voron 0.1 🤩 thanks for the info
@@Hunihunor90 haha yeah I actually just looked it up and POM otherwise known as delrin has around the same coefficient of friction against itself vs against steel but with certain types of Delrin, it actually wears faster against itself than against steel so I’m not sure if having the lead screw coated in delrin is a good choice or not. I’m sure the difference in material choice makes a negligible difference in performance but it would still be an interesting factor to test.
I want this!! so nice!
clever af
Brilliant design! Love it!
What's the use of this? Bed leveling is never done at one point only.
this is more to showcase the probe pickup and docking procedure, the process itself does multiple measurements and calculates the probe (and Z motion system) variance and range.
@@josearaujo5204 Ok, but what does it better than a BL-Touch exept wasting time?
@@oldineamiller9007 it's much better than BL-Touch if you can program the necessary macros, not only this version, but most microswitch's that are magnetically attached. They are very precise and have a low temperature drift. Also on a Voron V0, a BL-Touch would cause the loss of a large portion of the bed ;-)
Why not add a magnetic sensor like Prusa has? They aren't too expensive and I'm sure they're not too hard to incorporate.
This is much cheaper to implement and works as good or better than the SuperPinda, and is much more consistent with temperature changes than the original Pinda. Also it looks cool ;-) (completely subjective)
Given how cheap endstops are, it doesn't make sense
Interesting 🤔 I tought same with BL/prox sensor, so I would save that space from toolhead and use regular Z-endstop
5 times wat
hey i saw u changed belt Z to screw ? something went wrong ? im in progress of making a belt Z printer and would like to ask :D
This is a belted z printer, I just don't like screws on z
Interesting.. has this been applied yet or are you still experimenting with the concept?
There are some printers already running it, should be released in a few days
Good job
How does screws tilt adjust work with only one screw? I thought it was for tramming two or more leadscrews?
It allows adjusting the three screws that level the bed
That things really flexing
This version yes, next version, not so much. And still it had good accuracy
This sort of accuracy is not required for the purpose at all. Also it's hard to believe that fancy attachment will ever provide any reasonable repeatability in reference to nozzle to table distance. It's all as useful as an ashtray on a motor bike. I'd rather to consider the replacement of the stock plastic bed mounts with metal ones cause it's a serious flaw in V0 design.
As far as accuracy, you are correct, it's displayed more as a reference than a goal. For the correct nozzle to bed distance, it helps adjusting the screws. The ultimate tool would be to test with the nozzle itself, but that brings other problems.
@@josearaujo5204 If you're really after auto setting nozzle to bed clearance then you definitely need to firmly bolt a Z-homing switch up right to the table surface. That would give you a chance to auto set the 1st printing layer clearance regardless of what nozzle/hotend you've changed to. A filler gauge is pretty much enough to set a proper nozzle clearance all over the bed surface as it's area is very small. On bigger printers it's another story of course.
Check out the Kirigami bed mount
Does this make it impossible to print on the front right?
With this version, you lose 2mm of print space, there is an integrated cowling being tested that removes that limitation, it only docks at x121
@@josearaujo5204 That's not too bad, thanks for the answer! Looking forward to seeing the intergated cowling version!
Very nicely implemented!
how much bed do you lose?
on this version, 2mm on the right front corner, there will be a integrated mount that will require a now cowling that does not lose any space
Olá. Is there a version for the standard V0 toolhead? Not the mini AB?
Not yet, I can look into it
how to get the GPS data?
Try this exiftool.org/forum/index.php/topic,9623.msg49958.html