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@Lee-em1lb I've recently riden the latest 117 CI M8 on a Street Glide. The engine is pretty powerful and makes a lot of fun. But if I'm honest, the basic 107 CI version is just as good for me. Power wise the 96 CI Twin Cam is a great platform and also sufficient for most purposes. I consider the older TC 88 and the Evo with 80 CI somewhat insufficient. I live in Germany and sometimes it's necessary to ride on the Autobahn and at 130-140 KM/H. You need at least a Twin Cam 96 to do that effortlessly.

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Thank's for noticing, you mention it correctly. That's why I recommend the 2009 year bikes, because they are the most sophisticated among the TC96 models.

I will! I have already found a dealer nearby who offers test rides. Stay tuned 😀

I highly appreciate your kind words. Thank you very much.

Thanks. That's a useful remark 👌

Most M8 engines were bulletproof after MY 2021 for both, Touring and Softail models. To be fair, in Europe Harley offered an extended Warranty for four years, so even in case something had happened before, they'd fixed it for free. As far as I am aware, some models leaked oil due to the sumping problem, which was indeed a nuisance for some, yet not all bikes. I hope this helps. Ride safe.

Please enlighten me about the meaning of this :-D

Was genau? :-D

I agree, it is a great engine. I will do a separate video just for the Evo soon.

Das Kühlergeräusch finde ich auch nicht so gut. Aber mit gescheiter Nocke und Auspuff hört man das dann nicht mehr ;-)

I agree. The 107 engine offers sufficient power. Safe roads.

I will agree the M8 is a powerhouse. I have tweaked my 114 with a power cam, high compression cylinders and a dyno on board tuner on a heritage classic. I love it especially on the highway when I’m passing at 180k with lots more to give if required,

I got the Hydra-Glide too. Absolutely love it! I did the Stage I upgrade (air cleaner was already in there stock) to get some performance improvement and definitely some sound improvement. I have a Softail Standard with a Stage II torque cam and I love that, but didn’t think it was worth it for the Hydra-Glide. It will definitely reduce your gas mileage and at least on the Standard with its 107, that thing just explodes off the line, so the difference in performance is noticeable. I figured the Hydra-Glide has enough power though, and didn’t want to limit its range.

@@jlafayet Where are you located? Where'd you get the bike? I am loving it...just got back from a @200 mile ride on and around Skyline Drive in Virginia, USA... Bassani true dual exhaust and a decent tune...All I need!

@@Riff156 that sounds fantastic! I’m in the Seattle area, got my bike through Emerald City HD. The first weekend I had it was amazing weather, but it’s been cold and rainy more often than not since, so I’m not getting the riding in I want. So painful to see the thing just sitting there! 😩

I recently did a test drive on a 2024 Street Glide. Awesome bike!

Horsepower are overrated anyway. Torque is where the fun is at ;-)

The 107s are pretty solid. I would bechk it for sumping once, to be 100% sure. Basically you a sensor and check the oil level. It's a pretty simple procedure, and there are plenty of guides on that matter. Ride safe!

Thank you for your honest opinion. I try my best to be as objective as possible. The magazine I am referring to did a 33k Miles endurance test. Of course bikes with higher mileages can break, but this is generally true for vehicles with high mileages. I think harleys are not primarily about power. Still it's nice to see the company make some progress in that regard. Ride safe.

@@BikesandBrezeln I have to admit that I am just as bias as you on my opinion. This probably is due to the whole image projected by the HD culture. Which in my biased opinion, has an emphasis on an unsavory cultural lifestyle that is covertly racist, promotes lascivious conduct and maybe a little violence to boot. This is not to say all HD riders have this mentality, but a positive step for Harley would be to disassociate the brand from outlaw biker gangs that perpetuate this pervasive image in their brand. Unfortunately this would probably bankrupt HD, seeing that society deems this aspect to somehow be appealing. After all if I was a podiatrist, I would love to feel like the Incredible Hulk by just jumping onto a motorcycle. The bottom line is the Harley Davidson lineup does not stand on its own merits due to engineering, value, performance or practicality. It’s image is largely superficial

@@longislandhillbilly4780 I agree with your last argument. If you compare Harleys primarily in terms of engineering, value and performance, there are other brands which offer a better "package". The brand contributes a lot to the buying decision ... and it hurts me somewhat seeing the brand beeing damaged due to unwise decisions ... However, having toured on various Japanese, German, British and (other) American bikes, I must say, that Harley's Touring models are some (if not THE) most practical, comfortable and satisfying bikes i've ridden. And to be frank I love the aesthetics of Harley. I also love some of the inefficiencies, just as you mentioned the crank. Surely, some other brands may outperform Harley in Terms of Price and Performance, but it doesn't nearly tickly my attention in terms of aesthetics as the Big Twin Harley. On the one hand I am a big fan of the bikes, but on the other hand I am also a customer who wants to buy GOOD and RELIABLE products at good prices. So if their engines were to blow up frequently, I also wanted to know it. Long story short: I try to remain as neutral as I can, but it doesn't always work ofc. And I am leaving out the modern engines (RevMax) here ... this is a completely different story ... which shall be told in another video ;-) *RidesTowardsSunsetWithMedievalMusic* Have a good day sir.

@@BikesandBrezeln I was a heavy handed in my replies, I apologize and have subscribed to your channel. And I must say that some of Harley Davidson new offerings are very appealing. The Sportster S is definitely a giant leap in terms of technological advancement. Incredible power along with hydraulic lifters are very attractive features a wider segment of the riding public will enjoy. Other models have tapered steering head bearings with zerk fittings for easy greasing ( no disassembly needed) The styling and sound of Harley’s are another high point along with fit finish that’s second to none. Respect your views and admit there is merit in what you say . Again I apologize and look forward to viewing your videos.

They do sound and feel great 👌

I did a test ride of the 650 interceptor. Great and nimble bikes.

Do you know how they fixed it? Probably they installed the primary vent?

@@BikesandBrezeln yes they did install the vent25000 miles ago so it certinally worked. I have checked for sumping there has never been any sign of sumping. But it is a standard engin I am Told that a higher reving engine with a high lift cam is more likley to sump. Thanks for a great video.

@@BikesandBrezeln yes they installed a primary vent that solved the problem i have had no sumping problems though the engine is standard i have heard that fitting a high lift cam and making a faster reving engine causes sumping

Thank you. I will do a video on M8 softail models soon 😉 stay tuned.

Thank you for your comment. I have another video on twin cam touring models. It seems that some twin cam models MY 14-16 also suffered from that issue. Safe roads!

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Danke. Gute Fahrt

Used harleys are great and valid alternatives to new bikes. Especially used CVO models are often much cheaper than new bikes. Ride safe.

You can say this about any brand or situation. Anytime a large change is introduced, in this case the engine, problems are bound to occur. Engineers often cannot predict all outcomes. It's a human factor. To avoid, do not buy the first series of any new model, etc.

Since when harley is premium ? Infact even Indian looks more premium brand.

I agree, the Evo does sound awesome. Too bad it was discontinued.

The solution for that is a bigger cam to give it that harley chop.

I agree. Apparently, there is a bit of a negativity bias goin on when it comes to the M8. I've found it mostly reliable.

They do breathe engine oil into the air filter though. You need to vent the crankcase properly and you will actually get a smoother engine as well because it's not fighting crankcase pressure.🎉

@@therealrobertbirchall No argument from me. I did have an external breather on mine.

The m8 has already been out for 7 years. Its a proven engine.

A Harley is a kit motorcycle

If you plan to put a stage 4 kit on your bike, then sure you can spend 5G 😉

I'll do a testride with the 2024 street glide with the 117' engine soon! Stay tuned ;-) Them puns, tho ;-D

I ❤ my heritage softtail as well. Best bike Harley made yet. Vivid black with white wall tyers looks as fantastic as it rides.

The Heritage is a great ride. It is the most reliable motorcycle in Germany for a reason and I believe it is well deserved. Ride safe!

Sure, different dealer may have different strategies. I also prefer buying older bikes at a discount ;-)

@@BikesandBrezeln I have been to multiple different dealers in a few states. They pretty much treat me and their customers the same. Bad. I wanted a bone stock bike, nothing added, brand new, no hassles, no accessories, and at a good deal. Couldn't find it. I do my own repairs and maintance. I want a bike under warranty, and let them deal with it and any issues. I can take it from there. Not happening, no takers. They all want the upsells and the commissions. I don't want an older bike, nor do I want to restore one. I don't have the time and patince.

@@karrpilot7092 I am curious: Do you get warranty on used bikes in the US? In Europe, there is a law, which says that all used bikes sold by a dealer should come with one year warranty on the engine and transmission. This law ensures, that dealers sell reliable used bikes.

nevertheless it is a Harley engine! and I couldn't care less how the old engine felt

Some people may not like how the M8 sounds and feels in comparison to the "old" Harley engines. I absolutely love the Twin Cam and the Evo. But I have to admit, objectively, the Milwaukee eight is an outstandingly well designed engine. Kudos to Harley.

I have a 2021 sport glide with the 107ci. Stage 1 with full Vance and Hines Big Radius. More than enough power and torque. 33,000klms on it now and absolutely bulletproof motor. No issues whatsoever. I say M8 is all good. 👍

@@MHeadroom Good to hear that. Ride safe!

@@margoool2890 For me, the sound and feel of a Harley are my only reason for riding one. The brand has nothing to do with it. I have a 1989 FXRS Low Rider and a 2002 Sportster 1200C, both are carbureted, have aftermarket exhausts, they sound great, and they have that wonderful Harley shake that lets you know there is a big internal combustion engine down there.