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I laughed xD

Was it good? :D

No slides tho :D

@@ThxForSR ..probably a good thing lol

@@Suds_Mc_Duff Yeah especially since a 1.1 update is coming though it is mainly just a performance fix. Might make it worth going at this again though to improve the time.

Yes! But there is not really anyone else competing nowaday tbh

@ThxForSR that is very sad TDS is my favourite game You made great job!)

@@Lolkek-bfbsjxudhbr Thank you :)

@@ThxForSR good luck to you =)

Honestly it's not so janky when you're used to it

Maybe one day:)

Ngl i kinda agree on that xD

Ty :)

Well gj :) No, basically each time i launch the castle level, due to a bit of save glitching I move forward to the next day, all these level restarts are there so I can be at day 8 when I reach the city, i simplify it a bit but that's the idea. So you could count that as save/time manipulation but not a wrong warp.

@@ThxForSR Ahh! I see what's going on here! You built a time machine! Did you uncover the blueprints among the dusty tomes in the Keeper's library, or did you engineer it yourself?

@@Tumbledweeb If you're curious about the real story i find that out by randomly spamming quicksave and quickload out of frustration after ruining a 100% cradle run xD I've always feeled a bit stupid about it cause i was already running the game for months at that point, and the manip is pretty simple, i should have found that out a lot earlier tbh

@ThxForSR Actually, you discovered it the same way as most speedrunners discover new tech; Completely by accident. So you're not stupid, you're a trailblazer! Trust me; I know what I'm talking about. I've done QA testing, and I've contributed to the "Silent Hill Homecoming" speedrunning community by uncovering new routes. Before I came along, they ran the ENTIRE sewer level from start to finish. I simply couldn't allow that to continue. So I sat down, studied the map for optimal routing, went into the game and found a way. My discovery resulted in 70% of the level being skipable, which was a 2 - 3 minute time save, if I recall correctly. The then world champion was overjoyed when I approached him with my findings.

@@Tumbledweeb Oh i've found much better and complex stuff on others game since then, so my ego is fine :D I really was a beginner at the time i was running Deadly Shadows. Congrats on your find :) It's always a great feeling when you finally manage to break the level

No, you can hold 20 flashbombs in the vanilla game.

@@ThxForSR mhhh when i try to buy more than 5 - i can't (at any trader)

@@Frk_Tamer Well if it's not something obvious like you already have 15 flashbombs or not enough money i have no idea why x)

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Honestly i'm the first surprised that there was so much to improve :)

Probably :) but not before i'm done with Blades of the Shogun, as it is now i can still save like one minute

Thank you! That rock throw is really mandatory to prevent Hayato to die. Also i had to watch your run to even think about going into shadow mode before Hayato start climbing, i went from 19 to 17 with that optimisation alone :)

Thank you :) You should check @Jayrude run if you haven't done it yet

I will, thanks!@@ThxForSR

@@ThxForSRAlso, do you know of any speedruns for Thief 2X?

@@AB-dm1wz www.speedrun.com/thief_fms Search for T2X in the list :) You can also check the leaderboard tab for full game run

@@ThxForSR Hey, thanks!

Thanks! The teleport glitch has been around for years but since a vast majority of the runners are doing glitchless hardcore individual level runs it's not often used.

Actually thats some decent idea, but you know well that i'm not the kind to grind for such a minimal timesave that makes the run way harder. Especially atm, like man i didn't do any run for more than a years. And you know... having that kind of dedication for a few dozen views on youtube, imo either you have to absolutely love doing it, or it's gonna be bad for you mental state. I'm not criticizing but it's a bit ironic that you are always willing to push runners to those extreme while never experiencing the actual painful part yourself. And we called it gainer ffs!

i got about 10k hrs in AOE2DE modding in the span of 4yrs, not including time spent on learning other tools like photoshop, blender, texture packer and some scripting so I kinda know the feeling of grind but just different area. I dont like grind that much but I like to test stuff and make things. imo if vertical slide is easy it shouldnt really be considered as extreme unless its slide activation window is even lower than that of outdoor slide, I wouldnt know tho. @@ThxForSR

That's way different xD Thats work; which i respect, but you can't compare that to grinding a run. So you don't run the game but you consider slides as easy? :P@@thieftdp2680

@@ThxForSR well the work is unpaid cause its just hobby now in a rabbit hole. im not sure about the slides but afaik the indoor ones with 10 unit height has a larger activation duration than the outdoor ones but since you're the only person who has done the gainer one so far I can only ask u. no one else has done it well except suds but he never upload any vids

Work hasn't to be pay to be work, or to be respectable, hopefully! Basically gainer has the exact same activation windows than an outdoor slide. It's almost the same thing, slides => you grab the bj hitbox while leaning in two direction. Gainer, you just grab the bj hitbox.@@thieftdp2680

Thanks! I'm happy to have find at least one routing improvement in ST Bit of poor execution towards the end tho

It's a teleport glitch

Hehe yeah the main questions is pretty much everything xD So: 1) Screenshot then jump, you get higher jump with higher resolution, cause the lag you get when you take a screenshot is causing it. Also it's easier with screenshot bind on mousewheel 2) Basically lean, shake your mouse and press interact at a good timing, it's not easy, if you struggle with that binding interact on mousewheel can help 3) Actually it's really easy, look at this video: ruclips.net/video/lXHycnFYFZ8/видео.html

Uh you're not, i'm not consistent on it... the way i'm doing it (small step ahead, look left near the bottle, mantle, look up right while spamming screenshot) is what work best for me but i'm don't think i'm even close to 30% successful try. Tea has a bit slower but apparently consistent setup, he showed it on the Gloomwood speedrun discord, you should join! The link is on src

At 15:20? It's because i can't get the glyph upgrade until the female keeper is done talking, blinding her cut out her dialogue so it's a bit faster

@@ThxForSR thnx, didn't know that.

​​@@ThxForSR Amazing how fast you cleared the craddle.

Thanks!

Bag might be a bit broken

No ty sir

@@ThxForSR i heard from jay lost city yeets much easier

​@@thieftdp2680 Honestly when it's not to show new strat (or in this case so the leaderboard can have a good run) i'm too lazy do to ILs. Especially since there is some others better runners.

​@@ThxForSR but the yeets! anyway, just do it when you feel like it is good enough for me

Basically lean, shake your mouse, and spam interact, it's easier wth interact bind on mousewheel

Glad you like it :)

Thanks man! And thanks again for the timer :) Tbh i think those part of the run could be improved, i have to wait for guard cycle among other things... but i'm relatively happy with the time for now

I'm... really late, somehow i apparently missed that comment, but just in case, i've explained most of the glitches in the various comments over here. I agree this would need like an explanation video wich is something I might do one day. That said i don't want to promess anything, since i'm not native english talking is a lot more complex than writting... but once again i wanted atleast to point out that some of my answer here are explaining most of the run.

Thank you :)

This is not a Thief Video x) It's called blackjack slides, check this guide www.speedrun.com/thief2/guide/zgvtr and this video ruclips.net/video/ySwBoCYXkZE/видео.html

I know about that mod already :) The thing is we're using loadless timer (you can see my timer automaticaly stop himself at every loading, its kinda mandatory since loading time tends to varies a lot depending on your computer) so the mid level transition loading time are not take in acount. In fact it would even be a bit slower cause some of the mid level transition are replaced by some aditionnal space that take you a few seconds to cross.