UK FM CB radio servicing
UK FM CB radio servicing
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Rotel RVC240 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - extensive PLL/VCO repair
This immaculte radio came in with dead PLL/VCO. There was PCB corrosion owing to leaking capacitors in the 455Khz IF section as a seperate snag.
Unfortunately the PLL chip had to be replaced.
Recorded 31st January 2025
Richard, G0OJF
Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie)
Lincolnshire, UK
Ebay stuff www.ebay.co.uk/usr/g0ojf
rshireby@yahoo.co.uk
(C) Tango Systems Group 2025
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Видео

Danita 440 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 1754 часа назад
After servicing this CEPT FM only set from around 1985-1987 it was timebto test it. Full power was 3.8W on this radio. Rceive was around 0.36uV for 12dB SINAD. Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) As usual, Mr Chippie drove along our 6-mile 'difficult terrain for radio' test route. He stopped at the 5-mile point to conduct a static test. Power was checked at 3.8W. Our continued thanks to...
Danita 440 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - service alignment
Просмотров 3507 часов назад
Well I've never seen one of these sets before from around the 1985-1987 era, Anyway, we ended up with about 3.8W output & good receive sensitivity. Recorded 31st January 2025 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) Lincolnshire, UK Ebay stuff www.ebay.co.uk/usr/g0ojf rshireby@yahoo.co.uk (C) Tango Systems Group 2025
Midland 28 CE MultiNorm EU/UK FM/AM CB radio - On The Air test - New 2025 set
Просмотров 1817 часов назад
Here's a brand new radio for 2025 costing 130 Euros. Well made, but can I find any menu for adjustment....no. So the factory set 2.9W on UK channels & 3.2W on CEPT is how it is. Deviation is low at 1.8Khz. Receive is an excellent 2.6uV for 12dB SINAD. At the 5-mile point, Mr Chippie stopped & we tested the radio on the CEPT band in both FM & AM before returning to the UK FM channels. Our contin...
Audioline 341CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test (farm set)
Просмотров 2059 часов назад
This venerable 1981 Uniden made set came in for repair stuck between transmit & receive. Repair & servicing were on the previous video. Had this been a hobby use radio, the dreadful blue LED in the meter would have been replaced with the proper bulb. However, on radios in commercial use such as this set....I just leave things like that unless specificallyrequested to change such things back. Fu...
Audioline 341 CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - repair jammed both in tx & rx
Просмотров 53912 часов назад
Here's a farm radio which is in daily use. Doing TX & RX at the same time. Recorded 29th January 2025 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) Lincolnshire, UK Ebay stuff www.ebay.co.uk/usr/g0ojf rshireby@yahoo.co.uk (C) Tango Systems Group 2024
Midland 28 CE MultiNorm EU/UK new CB radio - review
Просмотров 68514 часов назад
Here's a brand new radio for 2025 costing 130 Euros. Well made, but can I find any menu for adjustment....no. So the factory set 2.8W on UK channels & 3.1W on CEPT is how it is. Deviation is low at 1.6Khz. Receive is an excellent 2.6uV for 12dB SINAD. I covered the lower Midland 18 model about ten days ago...basically the same chasis. Recorded 28th January 2025 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (M...
Binatone 5-star CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 36516 часов назад
After extensive work sorting out this previously messed with flagship radio from 1981, it was time to test it. Full power was 4W on this radio & low power was 410mW. receive was around 0.21uV for 12dB SINAD. Recorded 27th January 2024 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) As usual, Mr Chippie drove along our 6-mile 'difficult terrain for radio' test route. He stopped at the 5-mile point t...
Binatone 5-star CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - electronics restoration & alignment
Просмотров 71019 часов назад
Another top-of-the-range Cybernet 134 radio that's had the kiss of death with an illegal 80-channel modification. By the end of the video, there was just slightly low TX deviation to get to the bottom of...and find out why low power isn't working. I'll explain what turned out to be the snags during the 'on the air' video; hopefully tomorrow. I ended up with a full 4W output on transmit & an exc...
Sony CCD-TR45E 1991 Video 8 camcorder restoration Pt1
Просмотров 25921 час назад
Some of you will know that throughout the 1990's, the Sanyo SMD electrolytic capacitors used in Sony, Canan & Sanyo camcorders started to leak & fail after about 5 years. There is nothing for it, other than to set about & change all the capacitors. Some of these products have 80 or so. Clearly it's very time consuming & it leaves you with a still pretty worthless camera after repair. As I want ...
Harvard H646 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test
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These were recycled Spinnytronic CB199 radios that had been returned to Littlewoods catalogue group. They were sold in to Harris Overseas Ltd who repaired them & rebadged them as Harvard H646. These radios use the clone version of the Cybernet 002F chassis & were made in Hong Kong. Full power was 3.9W on this radio & low power was 520mW. receive was around 0.37uV for 1dB SINAD. Recorded 24th Ja...
Harvard H646 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - service alignment
Просмотров 446День назад
The Harvard H646 was created from mail order returns of the Spinneytronic CB199....a set using a fake version of the Cybernet 002F radio chassis as used by the Mustang range of sets, the Nato 40FM, the Harvard H402 & H404/H407 base stations & many others including the genuine & fake versions of the Amstrad CB901. In this video,I end up with the radio doing 3.9W & with good receive at 0.35uV for...
Amstrad CB901 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - Japan genuine version - On The Air test
Просмотров 695День назад
Here's a genuine Cybernet 002F in the form of a Japanese built Amstrad CB901. These usually have exceptional sensitivity...far & away better than most current models. This one was doing 3.8W & sensitivity 0f 0.25uV for 12dB SINAD. Recorded 23rd January 2024. Tomorrow we'll have the fake version as a Harvard H646. Spinneytronic CB199 rehash. Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) As usual, ...
Amstrad CB901 CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - service alignment (made in Japan)
Просмотров 589День назад
Here's a 1981 Cybernet 002 chassis, this time as an Amstrad CB901 (made in Japan genuine version). I ended up with 0.23uV for 12dB SINAD receive & transmit at 3.8W. Recorded 23rd January 2024 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) Lincolnshire, UK Ebay stuff www.ebay.co.uk/usr/g0ojf rshireby@yahoo.co.uk (C) Tango Systems Group 2024
Jesan KR200 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - on the air test
Просмотров 276День назад
These 'also ran' radios were available around 1988-1990. Recorded 21st January 2024 TX output was 4W on full power, 0.5W (preset) on low power.Receive was a 'not too good' 1uV for 12dB SINAD. Recorded 17th January 2025 Richard, G0OJF Richard, 2E0FKC (Mr Chippie) As usual, Mr Chippie drove along our 6-mile 'difficult terrain for radio' test route. He stopped at the 5-mile point to conduct a stat...
Jesan KR200 CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - Extensive retune & test
Просмотров 46214 дней назад
Jesan KR200 CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - Extensive retune & test
York JCB863 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test 17jan25
Просмотров 26414 дней назад
York JCB863 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test 17jan25
York JCB863 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - repair , demodify & re-align
Просмотров 70914 дней назад
York JCB863 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - repair , demodify & re-align
Midland 18 CE MultiNorm CEPT/UK New CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 37814 дней назад
Midland 18 CE MultiNorm CEPT/UK New CB radio - On The Air test
Midland 18 CE MultiNorm EU/UK new CB radio - review
Просмотров 74214 дней назад
Midland 18 CE MultiNorm EU/UK new CB radio - review
Realistic TRC2005 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 20821 день назад
Realistic TRC2005 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - On The Air test
Realistic TRC2005 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - service
Просмотров 50221 день назад
Realistic TRC2005 PR27GB CEPT FM CB radio - service
Alba CBM5 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 20221 день назад
Alba CBM5 CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test
TTI TCB1100 CE MultiNorm CB radio - On The Air test
Просмотров 28021 день назад
TTI TCB1100 CE MultiNorm CB radio - On The Air test
TTI TCB1100 CE MultiNorm CB radio- service alignment
Просмотров 49321 день назад
TTI TCB1100 CE MultiNorm CB radio- service alignment
Fidelity CB2000FM CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test - 3Jan25
Просмотров 30421 день назад
Fidelity CB2000FM CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - On The Air test - 3Jan25
Maxcom 4E CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - On The Air test (set 2)
Просмотров 22628 дней назад
Maxcom 4E CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - On The Air test (set 2)
Maxcom 4E CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - service (set 2 of 2)
Просмотров 40628 дней назад
Maxcom 4E CB27/81 UK FM CB radio - service (set 2 of 2)
Maxcom 4E CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - On The Air test (Set 1)
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Maxcom 4E CB27/81 Uk FM CB radio - On The Air test (Set 1)
Fidelity CB2000 CB27/81 UkFM CB radio - service & alignment (Cybernet134)
Просмотров 654Месяц назад
Fidelity CB2000 CB27/81 UkFM CB radio - service & alignment (Cybernet134)

Комментарии

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 36 минут назад

    A very extensive repair there but it's restored to brand new considering it's hardly been used in 40 yrs and in good condition, will look forward to the scratchy corner test.

  • @Thomas62611
    @Thomas62611 4 часа назад

    Yes thay have dumsters

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 7 часов назад

    hi richard good luck with the rotel rvc 240 cb 27/81 uk fm cb radio - extensive pll /vco repair from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 6 часов назад

      Thank you Paul, it certainly took a lot of doing. Richard

    • @paulchapman1175
      @paulchapman1175 6 часов назад

      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 to richard yes it did from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 7 часов назад

    To richard it is 3rd of February from paul at east sheen

    • @Ade067
      @Ade067 6 часов назад

      It was probably the 30th January when the video was recorded...you do realise its not live right?

  • @Thomas62611
    @Thomas62611 День назад

    Hi I made one to day I did put sleeving on my earth

  • @Blackadder1320
    @Blackadder1320 День назад

    CEPT was legalised in the UK on 1 September 1987….so it’s definitely not before that date.

  • @BOBmate-o6w
    @BOBmate-o6w День назад

    I had one with an es880 could get out over most of Norfolk.. fantastic in the lorry.

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 2 дня назад

    Good audio and signal around the Scratchy corner route and at five mile point and for CPT was just readable passing Rauceby Services.

  • @2bij3
    @2bij3 2 дня назад

    Hi Richard, where did you find the manual and schematic? I have a Danita 340s and have not been able to find anything so far. Thanks, John.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 2 дня назад

      From Danita's website, which I found immediately with "Danita 440" as search criteria. Richard

    • @2bij3
      @2bij3 2 дня назад

      Hi Richard, Manual found by searching for "danita 340 (old version)". Unfortunately no schematic. Thanks, John.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 2 дня назад

      @ Email me & I'll send you a copy of this back as an attachment. Richard

  • @chris_vandepeer
    @chris_vandepeer 2 дня назад

    That worked very well after the SO 239 clean audio was nice and clean as well.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 2 дня назад

      Yes, that doesn't always show up on the test gear which is why real tests are important. Richard

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 2 дня назад

    hi richard I always enjoy your air test also best wishes to you and mr chippy from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 2 дня назад

      Thank you Paul, Richard

    • @paulchapman1175
      @paulchapman1175 2 дня назад

      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 to richard it is always to enjoy your video on radios and I enjoy your air test as well from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @chris_vandepeer
    @chris_vandepeer 3 дня назад

    comitel A/S denmark made them. Market(s) / Approval(s). Denmark Telestyrelsen: CEPT PR-27/DK/9205 Finland CEPT PR27SF Norway PR27N Sweden Telestyrelsen: CEPT PR-27S Ur920174 United Kingdom CEPT PR27GB

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 3 дня назад

    Ain't seen one of those before neither but seems a decent set, and it will be an interesting Scratchy corner test.

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 3 дня назад

    A good signal throughout the Scratchy corner test and on all modes at 5 mile point, audio readable but once again sound quality of talking down a toilet roll tube.

  • @robmk3
    @robmk3 3 дня назад

    That's like the old 70's American uniden chassis with the hole on the main board for the speaker. Strange design for a newer set.

  • @m0ogy
    @m0ogy 3 дня назад

    Hello Richard, thanks for the tests of the new Midland 28. I do like the Thunderpole T-3000 you have in the car, I own one too (I reviewed it last year) and it was certainly close to the best AM/FM set I tested in 2024. Cheers Dave , North Lincolnshire. 🙂

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 3 дня назад

    Hi richard good luck servicing &alignment the danita 440 pr 27gb cept fm cb radio from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @oldmanandguitar
    @oldmanandguitar 3 дня назад

    I think Midland should just give up. I have said this before, if the radios all done 3.5 watts, +2 Deviation out the box they would be worth collecting. 2e0deq.

  • @2steppa3
    @2steppa3 3 дня назад

    So bad it almost sounds off frequency on that base station test.

  • @Brookspirit
    @Brookspirit 3 дня назад

    Maybe it would be better without the "new improved" microphone? But probably not.

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 3 дня назад

    Compared to older models its a waste of money.

  • @chris_vandepeer
    @chris_vandepeer 3 дня назад

    A bigger screen for those of us with old eyes.

  • @AllanM2e0
    @AllanM2e0 3 дня назад

    Another radio not worth buying. Sorry midland you’ve made a mess of these new sets. No way to adjust anything , no detailed instructions or information on the set’s performance. Im sorry but thats just poor. I’ll stick with the 48 or 78 pro

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 3 дня назад

    hi richard I always enjoy your air test also best wishes to you and mr chippy from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @teckybloke
    @teckybloke 3 дня назад

    Too nice for a tractor cab ! Just thinking that the mic comparison would be better at the 5 mile point as the weaker signal woukd enable different qualities to be heard ?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 3 дня назад

      We didn't do a mike comparison on this set. The factory original mikes supplied with the Uniden & Audioline sets lacked treble & result in poor readability. When they pop up, we do demonstrate them. I'll think about what you said though....it is a valid comment. Richard, G0OJF, UK

  • @graemedavidson499
    @graemedavidson499 4 дня назад

    I’ll never forget the smell pulling those caps out of camcorders!

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 3 дня назад

      It's awful. I went in the back workshop & wondered what the dreadful smell was. I remember (not fondly) the selenium EHT rectifier failure smell in television sets...cat pee. Richard, G0OJF, UK

    • @graemedavidson499
      @graemedavidson499 3 дня назад

      @ I forgot to mention that the purple caps may be OS-CON solid electrolytic ones with very low ESR and higher reliability than the other caps. Maybe they will still be okay but must confess to not encountering anything using them at that age in recent times to offer practical experience!

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 3 дня назад

      @@graemedavidson499 I'll see what the service manual specified. Richard

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 4 дня назад

    Worked great all round the Scratchy corner test with good signal and audio.

  • @DylanWykes-d9s
    @DylanWykes-d9s 4 дня назад

    Good evening Richard. This is my cb radio thankyou ever so much for the quick turn around and a smashing Job I really do appreciate it as always so thankyou ever so much. I also brought it with that led bulb in it wasn’t my own choice :)

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 3 дня назад

      Thanks Dylan. You never know, it might come in for service again in a few years & you'll ask us to change the LED back to a proper bulb! Enoy yourself. Richard

  • @Blackadder1320
    @Blackadder1320 4 дня назад

    I can’t imagine tractor drivers are giving each other signal reports whilst they are working the field, so the signal meter is pretty much irrelevant in that setting.

  • @mikeyf103
    @mikeyf103 4 дня назад

    Terrible lag on key up

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 4 дня назад

      Yes, a good indticator of things to come. New current sets are all like this or worse. Richard

  • @techno1972
    @techno1972 4 дня назад

    One thing I always noticed was that Uniden radios seem to have far fewer components inside than a Cybernet, despite both being of similar quality.

    • @simonh870
      @simonh870 4 дня назад

      Because they were designed and built properly in the first place where as the cybernets needed link wires from one end of the PCB to the other. I am pretty sure the Cybernet 134 board was derived from an older AM/FM set as well.

  • @2bij3
    @2bij3 4 дня назад

    Look at 3.37 and you can see what was loose inside. The piece of cardboard will certainly help, but I would have removed all the bolts. Good job.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 4 дня назад

      I'm assuming that's how they currently mount it. If it were a hobby radio I'd remove the hardware, but not on commercial use sets. Richard

    • @2bij3
      @2bij3 4 дня назад

      Hi Richard, In that case, hopefully they'll leave the cardboard in place. John.

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 4 дня назад

    Hi richard I always enjoy your air test also best wishes to you and mr chippy from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 4 дня назад

      Thank you Paul, Richard

    • @paulchapman1175
      @paulchapman1175 4 дня назад

      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 to richard you are most welcome I was hoping that you would tell mr chippy that I used to have a audioline 341 cb radio from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 4 дня назад

      @@paulchapman1175 I did tell Mr Chippie....and he also reads the comments. Richard

    • @paulchapman1175
      @paulchapman1175 4 дня назад

      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 oh ok fair enough from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @CT1BRM.
    @CT1BRM. 4 дня назад

    Hello, I have the same receiver but the knobs have been changed. I want to put back some knobs that are as similar as possible. What is the diameter and height of the original knobs? I think the tuning knobs have a larger diameter. Regards, JM - CT1BRM

  • @JamesMills-w1j
    @JamesMills-w1j 4 дня назад

    Really interesting to see, an awful lot of components on those boards though. I'll look forward to seeing the next video.

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 5 дней назад

    Nice speedy diagnosis of the Rx Tx fault and replacement transistor and its all ready for Scratchy corner and its return to work service.

  • @rogerburchell4567
    @rogerburchell4567 5 дней назад

    On the farm where i am my colleague runs a maxcom 4e and i use a Cybernet 3000... although we do mix and match various radios for fun ...the farm environment is a good test of a radio as it can be quite harsh and we have found the old 27/81 rigs are very robust and can take some real punishment,they certainly were built very well .

  • @Davejazz
    @Davejazz 5 дней назад

    Good old skip interference.

  • @Davejazz
    @Davejazz 5 дней назад

    Nice job Richard

  • @paulchapman1175
    @paulchapman1175 5 дней назад

    hi richard good luck repairing the audioline 341 cb 27/81 uk fm cb radio also I used to have one of these radio from paul chapman at east sheen 73's

  • @wdavie27
    @wdavie27 5 дней назад

    iv still got one of these with a power desk mic and eco chamber lol still in working order is the old cb radio still getting used today

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 5 дней назад

      This one is in daily use on a farm....all the radios they have are the same model. Richard

  • @oldmanandguitar
    @oldmanandguitar 5 дней назад

    Interesting fault. 2e0deq.

  • @Blackadder1320
    @Blackadder1320 5 дней назад

    A very poor new offering from Midland. I find the new President rigs significantly better. My President Harrison 2 is excellent. I note that you got good results when you serviced the Barry and the Bill as well.

  • @THUNDERPOLETV
    @THUNDERPOLETV 5 дней назад

    😍

  • @quotagious
    @quotagious 5 дней назад

    I wouldn't waste anymore money on modern rigs Richard they just seem to be going down hill 😒

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 5 дней назад

      Yes, I think that's the last. Richard

    • @quotagious
      @quotagious 5 дней назад

      @@ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 They just seem to be getting less and less serviceable and more of a chuck away world the trouble is if it went wrong it would probably cost just as much to mend it as would to buy a New one which is a shame especially if you have looked after it

  • @dw7920
    @dw7920 5 дней назад

    Hang on.. 37 min 30 sec - someone actually using CB for a sensible purpose on a sensible channel?! It'll never catch on..

  • @maxntrike
    @maxntrike 5 дней назад

    Hi Richard, I'm enjoying your videos but i listen mostly with headphones and there is quite a bit of hiss on the audio. Just wondering if that is something you could improve. Cheers 👍

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 5 дней назад

      Probably the valved microphone pre-amp combinimg the four Shure SM57 microphones. I could always try one of those cheap Chinese USB microphones....but then mono would only come out of the left channel & I record this in stereo. What would you do? Richard

    • @TheOptimod
      @TheOptimod 5 дней назад

      @@ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 It MAY be a sensible idea to just dump the current mic pre-amp and buy a nice shiny fancy new one and reap the benefits.

  • @themaryjayneexperience5427
    @themaryjayneexperience5427 6 дней назад

    So, just as bad as the other one (though you've listed this as 18 not 28 in the title) ... Definitely one to avoid, but I still much appreciate the review.

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 6 дней назад

    Interesting set but no adjustments will see how it does on the Scratchy corner test.

  • @JamesHowe-ci5vt
    @JamesHowe-ci5vt 6 дней назад

    A 5Star performance around the scratchy corner test and at five mile point and was reasonably readable passing Rauceby Services, on the subject of people making legal radios illegal one theory may have been a disguise in a legal chassis so if the man from Whitehall came knocking they would say its not me this is a legal set rather than have an illegal set on the bench they would have to hide.