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Don't know much of anything about the issue of Doreen and Michael, however it seems he was involved with controversial issues before he died. Feel free to share what you wish, but it's not very uncommon for people to change a bit over the years, and distant themselves from former friends, colleagues, and acquaintances. The other thing that comes to mind is Christians can differ on secondary issues, those issues that have nothing to do with the Gospel, with Jesus Christ and Salvation. Historically, that is one of the reasons Christians over the centuries have separated themselves by creating denominations (along with geography, languages, etc.). Not sure where you are from, but in the US there are a number of well -known pastors/authors from past decades that formerly were recommended by mainstream evangelicalism, but have since gone astray into the New Apologetic Reformation. The NAR is cultic and has morphed into parts of the Christian Nationalism Movement. A church where my wife and I attended for years removed all of their works off of the library shelves, for good reason. Anyway, as I said, feel free to dialogue with me if you wish. The Numerous concerns on what Michael Heiser teaches: www.thebereancall.org/content/numerous-concerns-what-michael-heiser-teaches?sapurl=Lys5MjZkL2xiL2xpLyt3dm44dWs4P2JyYW5kaW5nPXRydWUmZW1iZWQ9dHJ1ZSZyZWNlbnRSb3V0ZT1hcHAud2ViLWFwcC5saWJyYXJ5Lmxpc3QmcmVjZW50Um91dGVTbHVnPSUyQnd2bjh1azg=

A follow up thought... Personally, I give people grace to change their mind about really anything. It's usually only after an informative dialogue with them that I am able to understand what the reasons are, or perhaps reading/watching something they have published. In today's culture, it's easy to only know what someone wants you to know, unless you do some homework. I have always tried to inform myself about issues before I speak out about them to others. Here is another link about Michael's "ministry": www.heiserheresy.com/#:~:text=In%20his%20book%20The%20Unseen%20Realm,%20Michael

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God is always thinking 3-5 steps ahead. Who are we to question what god does bro. Also, we have free will so whatever action we decide to take there will be a consequence. Example bro if you’re a promiscuous women or male, the more likely you’ll end up with a child

@@Desertpunk_999 TRUE, as far as Free will. I just wish HE had prevented irresponsible women like my mother from having kids. I'm a woman who was prevented from having kids, which, as it turned out, was a good thing. As far as questioning what God does and why, the Bible is full of those questions. Job asked, big time. David, in the Psalms asked. Habakkuk asked.

@@JohannaLeigh I'm sorry you have experienced difficulties in life, especially regarding your parents. Pain and suffering...adversity...is difficult to discuss at times, and often difficult to comprehend, especially regarding the Christian teaching of the nature of God, being all powerful and all good. Personally, I too have experienced adversity in life. The problem with anyone, insisting or expecting God to step in and prevent something happening in someone's life, is in fact, doing so implies or demands that God be arbitrary in who or how He helps and who or how he doesn't. For example, why didn't the Lord prevent the Holocaust? This is a question I've heard asked many times and has been a reason for some not to believe in the Lord. Well, let's pretend you're God, for a moment. Assuming you could prevent 6,000,000 people from being killed in the Holocaust? Should you? Sure. Well, why didn't the Lord do so? Let's think this through. OK. Say, the Lord stopped that from happening. Well then, how about the 1,000,000 innocent people killed in Armenia/Turkey also occurring during the Second World War. Sure. OK. Then how about 100,000 deaths of innocent people killed in Poland, same timeframe? Sure. And on and on we go, all the way down to 1 innocent person being killed. You know those who lost loved ones have asked this question countless times throughout history. And if you say sure. Then how about those innocent people not killed, but maimed, paralyzed, etc.? You see, the only way we can say God should save this one/group, and not another, is for Him to be arbitrary, or the Lord choosing to save one but not another person/group based on His will and His understanding, which is His own counsel. If He does so, we can understandably say it is an answer to prayer, a miracle, etc. If He doesn't, then we must admit we aren't God, and then choose (or continue to choose) to trust in the Lord, as revealed in the Bible. The Bible teaches God is All-Powerful, Everywhere Present, Knows All Things, and is Perfectly Good. But He is not unjust nor arbitrary is what He chooses to do or not to do. Humanity on the other hand, including us, tends towards sin, sin being a Greek word in the New Testament that means, "to miss the mark or target." It is an old Greek archery term. When the archer misses the target, someone calls out, "sin," which means he/she missed. Missing the mark/target of what we should do can be either moral or amoral (not having a moral component to it). This so much describes humanity, made in the image and likeness of God, yet having a tendency to miss the mark in life, deliberately and unknowingly, morally and amorally. So, you see with this perspective, as Christians we should trust the Lord at all times, even in the midst of adversity. There are many reasons adversity can happen, over a dozen reasons listed in the New Testament. Sometimes adversity is the result of one of these. But other times, not so. And in the end, the Lord didn't answer Jonah, except to remind him who He is. I've come from a past with significant adversity in my childhood and adolescence. Yet, while serving in the Marines, I became a Christian, and the Lord completely changed my life, from the inside out, so to speak. Years passed, and before my mother died, I was able to leader her in a prayer for rededication (she was a Christian), and later, lead my father to faith in Christ. That was the first time I saw him at peace withing himself, and it was wonderful. I could say more, but all of this, my coming to faith in Christ in the midst of an adverse childhood, as well as my continuing in the Christian faith all of my life since then and being used to bring my parents to saving faith in the Lord, is by the Lord's grace (unmerited favor). Christians should always pray for the Lord's grace, throughout their lives, and give grace to others, including their parents. The Lord's ways are perfect. Made in the image of God, we are of inestimable worth, yet have a nature that tends towards sin, missing the mark. So don't be surprised if you don't quite understand everything in life. There will come a time, when we shall be given a glorious resurrection body, as Christ both modeled and taught. In the meantime, live with grace: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do" (Ephesians 2:8-10).

@@Desertpunk_999 If you're interested, I also gave a response, below. Yet, I'd like to add a comment to your response. I agree that whatever we decide to do has a consequence, and sometimes that helps us understand what we experience, but sometimes not. I don't believe in the Hindu teaching of Karma, that all actions have effects/consequences by some cosmic law. As you have suggested, at times our actions do have consequences. For example, if a person is abusive, minimally over time that person's life will be harmed as a result of such damaging behavior. Also, even one abusive event can land him or her in prison. Hence, as you said, one should look to one's life as Paul said, "examine yourselves" to see if you are living out your faith in grace and truth. But beyond that, well, it's good that we don't get what each of us deserve in life, with all of our sins, the many times and ways we have missed the mark of doing the right thing or avoiding the wrong. I've been a Christian all of my adult life, having come to saving faith in the Lord while in the Marines, and I'm so glad the Lord has continually given me grace upon grace (unmerited favor), not because I deserved it, but because of who He is, Jesus Christ. Without God's grace in our lives, we cannot live. This is also true even for the unsaved. Karma is a Hindu belief that has no grace, only imagined unalterable cosmic law. In my opinion, sometimes Christians can erroneously view the Lord like that. Even when the issue of sowing and reaping is mentioned in the New Testament, the context demonstrates it is a metaphor to give the reader wisdom in how to live your life, not a cosmic law. In fact, grace is the opposite of Karma, of unalterable lawlike sowing and reaping in life. I agree with what you said, but I wanted to add this as well, to encourage Christians to focus on the Lord, and live by grace through faith, being saved for good works, not by good works (Eph. 2:8-10).

Faith produces fruit, according to the New Testament. It is the Lord's grace that produces fruit in our lives, through faith. So, of course, obedience is the result of faith. In other words, a Believer will produce fruit, but one is not saved by said fruit. Believers are called to a relationship with the Lord, Father/Son/Holy Spirit, by grace through faith. And in so doing, the Lord produces fruit in our lives. Hence, the New Covenant of Jesus Christ is based on faith. "No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me...I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:4-5). No one can be saved by works. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9). It is our duty to produce good works, but we are not saved nor kept by any works, even by good works inspired by the Lord. "So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.” (Luke 17:10). People don't see our faith, the Lord does. People see our works, our fruit, so contextually, James makes this point (James 2:24). He is speaking of being justified in the eyes of people. Paul makes the point time and again, that we are justified before God by faith (Galatians 2:16)..."for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose" (Philippians 2:13). The Christian faith is firstly about the Lord, and secondly about everyone else. It is about salvation. We are so lost, so alienated and separated from the Lord because of our sins, sinful nature, that it took God Himself becoming flesh in the incarnation, to live among us, then die for our sins. Our condition was that serious. No amount of good works could ever have the power to save us. Only the Lord can save us. "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath. But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life" (Ephesians 2:1-10).

By the way, proverbs are easy to remember sayings to give wisdom, and parables are easy to remember short stories also to give wisdom.

Try not to put, or let yourself be put, into situations where you could become angry. Also, try to talk about issues, rather than individuals. This way, most likely people will become less combative, as you engage in dialogues about issues rather than persons or personalities. It can be helpful to share feelings. But remember that you can change, by grace through faith in the Lord. It's much more complicated to try to change others. Personally, I try to influence others for change, but I look to change myself first, model this change, and hopefully whatever good you are trying to do will influence others in a good way. This can involve a letting go of others, regarding trying to change them. If you model kindness, goodness, etc., people will most likely respond in a good, supportive way. The world is filled with people that are ill tempered, unkind, untrustworthy. Everyday I set myself not to be one of them. And I can only do so with the Lord's grace and truth, with the Lord's help. Ask the Lord, everyday, to help you, and by grace through faith, the Lord will. "...for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose" (Philippians 2:3).

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." Ephesians 2:8-10

God Bless You, from the United States of America. "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." --Ephesians 2:8-10

@@gregapologia7289 Thank so much for the verses,By Faith through Grace we are saved,to God be the glory... May God blessed you and your family with this verse.. Numbers 6:22-26

Not sure what you are trying to say.

Modern archeology uses a timeline that is not correct. Slightly adjust the Egyptian timeline that is used today, and one will find good evidence for the Biblical story of the descendants of Abraham in Egypt, including the Exodus. For example, there are "dark" periods of the history of Egypt, where there is a lack of data. Egyptologists estimate how long these periods are. Change these assumptions slightly, and there is good evidence of the Exodus. Hope this helps.

Modern archeology, often rejects the Bible as a source for information, rejecting it as historically reliable. Furthermore, it has embraced an erroneous Egyptian timeline, which leads to the false claim that there is no evidence of some people, places, and events listed in the Bible. When one goes into the ancient past (or future, for that matter), assumptions are used, and so any interpretations of what is found (data), is only as valid as assumptions used. In other words, there is an ongoing bias against the historicity given in the Bible, in a very basic way. So, there are archeologists, like the one here in this presentation, that do are able to match the Biblical chronology of people, places, and events with archeological finds. This matters to some people, specifically many Christians, Jewish Christians, and Jewish people (regardless of their faith). One doesn't have to be interested in such things, in order to be a Christian, but as I said, many of us are, hence the reason for this kind of presentation. I appreciate honest questions.

@gregapologia7289 That used to be the case. It sounds like you are operating from an outdated idea. Yes, because of whatever bias, some people will disbelieve the bible, no matter what. But I don't think that reflects the attitude of modern archeology. You can look back to when we started to become able to read ancient Sumerian and Akkadian and the family of cuneiform languages. Since that time it's become more and more obvious that some of what is recorded in the Hebrew Bible, is factual. I mean the Hebrews were basically amongst the recipients of ancient history from previous civilizations as well as having access to their current knowledge of the entire Levant and beyond. The people of the book do not actually need archeology to validate their recording of history, wether copied from other sources or told as it occurred. What cannot be said, is that just because the Hebrew Bible reports some of history accurately, doesn't mean that EVERYTHING in the books is factual. That is a logical leap that you cannot make.

@@iamperplexed4695 Hi, I agree with you when you said, "What cannot be said, is that just because the Hebrew Bible reports some of history accurately, doesn't mean that EVERYTHING in the books is factual. That is a logical leap that you cannot make." I never said that. Honestly, the vast majority of ancient sites of antiquity have not been identified, and the vast majority of those sites have not had significant archeological research done on them. Just giving the big picture, a perspective. Hence, I would never say that everything in the Bible has been found and verified to be historically accurate. And, specifically to your point, it is logical that some references to people, places, and events in the Bible, or from any source, can be a mix of what is and is not, historically accurate. To this end, I would need to know what the specific reference is, and then discuss that. Second thing, going into the distant past requires assumptions, and is based on relativistic dating. Much of the dating in that part of the world is based on an accepted Egyptian timeline, even though said timeline has "dark" periods in it (dark meaning lack of data), and is therefore subject to assumptions. Adjust said timeline, and you will find good evidence of Israel's sojourn in Egypt, as the Bible teaches. Don't adjust anything, and the conclusion remains that there is no evidence of for example, the Exodus. Either way, one cannot say there isn't any evidence that supports the Biblical story of Israel in Egypt, including the Exodus, Moses, etc. If you don't agree with anything I have stated, that's OK. I enjoy the discussion.

@gregapologia7289 I am no historian, just a buff, but I've learned enough to know that biblical facts exist and biblical fictions exist. As I was taught, I've never really doubted much of the historical accuracy of the Hebrew Bible. I didn't need to see ruins to know that nobody goes to that much trouble to record and maintain the record of their past because they believe it all to be myth. Only those of true faith and knowledge of the history and sources and people's of the past would make that much effort. Because the Hebrews were of a secondary wave of migrants into the Levant and their history with the late empires of mesopotamia, and Egypt the informational history they had access to would have been immense to a degree that we won't ever understand. Time and willingness will bear the truth of what's left to be found. We are a proud being and always believe that we are at the pinnacle of what could be known. My firm belief is that not only will time bear witness to factual biblical truths but some of the more fantastical as well.

@@iamperplexed4695 Fair enough. Thank you very much for the interesting dialogue, and feel free to engage me in a conversation anytime. I'm from the Upper Midwest of the US, and started this channel several years ago when I was injured playing hockey. A couple operations and years later, I am fully recovered, albeit with some serious hardware in my back. I stopped playing hockey, because I don't want my wife to worry about me. Anyway, just a little bio about me. I sometimes wonder who the other person is, at the other end of an online dialogue. Best.

HI, @13zounds. Correct. Most of the videos at my RUclips channel are audios with a background image. I thought it would be easier for people to listen to, while doing something else. I gave the link to the original video above, "Source or more information": ruclips.net/video/34XBkm4QiLo/видео.html

Me too.....87 y-o in the Ozarks 💞🎶🌹

Remarkable.

You're very welcome.

Fair question. Few things I'd like to say in response to your comment. "Christian" is a term first used by the Romans to identify and describe those who are Believers (followers/disciples) of Jesus Christ. Sociologically, the term has been used to describe pretty much anyone or group that associates itself with Him. So this includes groups like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc., who deny the Biblical and historical teaching of the identity of Christ, according to the New Testament, God who became flesh (John 1 and many other references). There have always been people who claim to be followers of Christ, but their lives do not show it. Whether they are or aren't, I wouldn't know. Only the Lord knows. But in James, the Christian is described as having a life that others know you are a follower of Christ. And the Lord taught that if you believe in Him, you will. I am not talking about religious phonyism, or anything like that. I'm talking about fruits of the Spirit, as described in the NT, which includes confession of your faith in the Lord. So, it's a lifestyle, not a double minded, hypocritical, showiness. The Gospel literally means "good news." And contextually, this good news is the person of Jesus Christ. Hence the essential or basic teachings about who He is represents the Jesus of the New Testament, not "another Jesus" which Paul warns about. This being said, there are many peripheral, secondary teachings that have to do with other things, and Christians can differ on them, all the while having faith in Jesus Christ, and agreeing on the essentials. Such secondary issues which have historically divided Christians, which Christian denominations can differ: language shared, location, church government, end-time views, baptism, gifts, etc. So, for example you could have a Korean Presbyterian Church of America that is a separate denomination because they speak Korean, were started or are primarily located in America, have rules of governance led by the presbytery (church elders and ministers, an administrative body, representing all of the local congregations of a district), practice both infant and adult baptism although infant baptism is really infant dedication), etc. This way, there will never be one massive, monolithic organization from which Christ is represented, with all of the inevitable shortcomings that are always associated with such organizations. Also, the faith can be diverse to a great extent, reflecting different people groups all over the world. Actually, this is a strength, not a weakness, and has insured the faith continues all over the world, ultimately in every country and language. Christ is in charge, not a religious man. Regarding your reference to me, I'm going to ignore it. I am not the issue, and for that matter, neither are you or anyone reading this. It is Christ who is the only Savior of the World, the only Messiah of the Jewish People. And the more a person bases his or her beliefs on something other than the New Testament (read in context), the more error will creep into their minds and hearts, referring to writings that contradict the clear teachings of the New Testament. For example: "For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him" (Col. 1:16). Everything in life was created by Jesus Christ, which contradicts Mormon teaching that Lucifer was the spirit brother of Christ. No, Lucifer was created by Jesus Christ. The NT judges other writings, not the other way around. And personally, I am really only interested in defending the essential teachings of the Gospel, not the secondary teachings, which again, people can disagree on and still remain Believers. You said, "God's house is a house of order." Where did you get that idea from? If you read the letters from Paul to the First Church in the New Testament, they had many of the issues the Church still haves today: sins, divisions, persecution, etc. Everything that people do, including your life and mine, will be affected by our sinful nature, "sin" being defined as "missing the mark or target," as per the Greek in the NT. The application is both moral and amoral (without moral content). Only the Lord is perfect. Even angels err, as per the teachings of the angelic rebellion before the earth was created. I think this about sums up my response to what you said. By the way, I do not think I'm better, smarter, etc. than others. I came to saving faith in Christ when I was a United States Marine, in California, 1976. The Lord changed my life completely, and I have tried to serve Him since, and overall, I have by His grace. Part of this service is to help others in various ways, one being having started this RUclips channel several years ago, when I broke my back playing hockey. I have fully recovered by the grace of the Lord and the expertise of the medical profession, and this channel continues. My main goal is to help Christians, encourage them, and in so doing provide many presentations related to their faith, in the essentials, not relating to peripheral secondary issues. And if anyone is abusive to others, I probably will call them on it. And if they don't back down, I will delete their comments, then if they continue, I will block them from this site. This site is not about me, you, or them. It is about Jesus Christ, and trying to help people live a healthier and more Biblical life, with grace and truth. Finally, I don't lose sleep over anyone not agreeing with me (or with the NT for that matter). Everyone has the right regarding self-autonomy. What someone believes, whether good, bad, or otherwise, is entirely up to them. Have a nice weekend.

I too heard this presentation, through an audio cassette tape from "Firefighters For Christ." In the 1980's-90's, I used to listen to sermons like this, then as time passed, I converted them into audio files, downloaded a photo as a background, and that is what you listened to here. The Lord has blessed this effort, by His grace and truth, so much. This channel began when I broke my back playing hockey. I wanted to continue to serve the Lord, and this channel came to mind. It started out very small, but I kept at it, the Lord kept blessing it, and I'm still doing it. My mission or goal, is to primarily help Believers, strengthen their faith, encourage them, etc. In this effort, I occasionally exchange comments from those who are not Believers. By the way, I fully recovered from my back injury, by the grace of the Lord and skill of the medical profession. So, all in all, it's interesting. And I'm glad about that, because I truly believe serving the Lord and people, can be meaningful, and at times, enjoyable. A word of caution regarding looking into the Jewishness of the Gospel, of the New Testament... be careful not to become Judaized, bringing in Hebrew requirements of law(s), in order to serve, worship, please, etc. the Lord. There has been a movement both Christian and non-Christian, that is sometimes called the Messianic Movement, among other names. Our faith is complete, once for all time delivered to the Saints, and not to be added to, even with good intentions. I am sure you know this, but it's easy to get off on a tangent regarding secondary issues, and the Jewishness of the New Testament, though important to some, is one of them. I have not listened to that tape as many times as you have, but some of them, I've listened to perhaps 100 times. When I was single, I lent them out, including to my then girlfriend, who became a Christian and we married. We've been together for over 30 years now. Thanks for the comment.

Amen !

Look at the context. The context determines the meaning of the text. It is a rebuke in Psalms 82:6. References to "gods" in the Bible are determined by the context. The Hebrew word translated “gods” in Psalm 82:6 is elohim. The term elohim is most frequently used to refer to the one true God, but it does have other uses. Yahweh is referred to as the Elohim above all elohim (Psalm 95:3). Other uses of the term elohim include spiritual beings such as angels (Job 2:1; 38:7); demons, idols, and gods of foreign nations (Genesis 35:4; Deuteronomy 32:17; 1 Kings 11:33); and the disembodied dead (1 Samuel 28:13). The Hebrew word elohim is also translated “judges” in Exodus 21:6 and 22:8, 9, and 28. Elohim can be used both in the singular or plural forms, again depending on its context. Hence, Elohim can refer to the one true and living God, who is Creator of all things, according to the Old and New Testaments. In this context, Elohim refers to the spiritual being who is God: infinite (self-existing, without origin, and not bound by time or space), immutable (never changes), omnipotent (all-powerful), Omniscient (all-knowing), and omnipresent (always everywhere). Mormons seem to refer this being as "The Father," as in the Lord's prayer, "Our Father, who art in Heaven..." Yet, applying Mormon's Doctrine of Eternal Progression, the Father became a god and has progressed to be the Father, referred to by Mormons. This violates the Christian and Biblical description of God, as per the above traits, specifically according to the Bible, God was always God, He never progressed to be a god (or God). This is why Mormonism is not Biblical, not Cristian. Regarding Jesus referring to Psalm 82, you have to again, look at the context of Psalm 82. Jesus in John 10:34 is rebuking those who will ultimately kill Him. Psalm 82:6 is a rebuke also: "God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the 'gods': How long will you a defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. "Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked. The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance." Contextually, who are the "gods?" They are rulers who are mortals, who are unjust, "know nothing," "understand nothing," and "walk in darkness." Here is an example of elohim referring to people who are rulers. The Lord ordained government authority on earth, and so these rulers' authority (power, position, and ability to rule) comes from the Lord. The Bible is clear about this. God ordains governmental authority for our own good, and has done so throughout the history of humanity. These rulers were being rebuked by the Lord. We all are created by God, so are in this sense His offspring, His Sons of God. Jesus in His incarnation was the only begotten Son of God, taking on a special meaning, one and only, a title that doesn't apply to anyone else. Angels (spiritual beings in the Old Testament) are also called sons of God. It means offspring of God, created by God. John 10:25: "Then came the Festival of Dedication[b] at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, 'How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.' Jesus answered, 'I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.' Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, 'I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?' 'We are not stoning you for any good work,' they replied, 'but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.' Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, "I have said you are “gods”’? If he called them "gods," to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, "I am God’s Son’"? "Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.' Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp." The context of this is Jesus said, "I am God's Son." And this fit perfectly into Psalm 82, which called people (rulers) that had God's authority, "gods" and "sons of God." Those that opposed Him were silenced by His Scriptural reference to justify the use of these terms or expressions to Him. That's it. All of this has nothing to do with Mormon teaching of eternal progression of men becoming gods, adding to this error, Mormonism also teaches a person has to be male, and fulfill certain requirements of modern Mormonism. You know this, if you know Mormon teaching on this issue. None of this is in the context, and therefore you are forcing a doctrine or meaning into Scripture that wasn't intended by the author (God). It seems most error people make when using Scripture is ignoring the context. And by the way, Jesus won the argument. He had the right not only to be called a son of God, but he also was a one and only begotten Son of God. They knew He was claiming to be God, equal with God, and so accused him of blasphemy and ultimately crucified Him for it. It's 2am. I stayed up to respond to you, out of respect. I have to work tomorrow, and so must end this. I pray the Lord open up your understanding through Scripture in context.

@@gregapologia7289 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.

@@wes2176 Nothing in reply to what I said? Didn't think so. That's up to you. The Christian faith teaches there is only one true and living God, and that one true and living God eternally exists as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Us refers to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Genesis does not contradict Biblical Christian teaching.

@@gregapologia7289 To tell you the truth, you, like most Evangelicals, sound like serious a poo-head. I really don't care what you think and I don't even read what you write, I just harass you. I harass you exactly the way you harass the religions of others, religions which others hold most sacred.

@@wes2176 You said, which I deleted, "Greg Apologia I'm not interested in you at all now. So long, hater." Children and immature adults think that others hate them, when they don't get their way (in this instance, in a conversation). Many in our culture today act like children and immature adults. Not getting your way in a conversation/debate, doesn't necessarily mean anything regarding the character of either of us --though I admit this childish tactic is widely used as a thought/speech stopper in our culture.

Hi. I don't know what point you are making. If you explain your point, then I will be happy to dialogue with you. If not, I will delete your comment, as it adds nothing to any conversation here.

Hi @GregApologia Sorry for the confusion. Adrian Rogers mentioned something about jumping to conclusions as one way people get angry, and I recalled a quote from *The Flintstone's* . I'm gonna have to listen in again. I think I got some wires crossed.

Oh, funny. Ok, thanks for the response. I try not to jump to conclusions when someone posts comments that I don't understand. There are a lot of people that do so, and so I am cautious, but I try to give everyone an opportunity to clarify what they are saying. Best. @@JohannaLeigh

@@gregapologia7289 No problem. All the best for a good week. Spring is 3 weeks away; depending on what your groundhog said.😁

I live up by the Great Lakes, USA, and it's been very mild here@@JohannaLeigh. Seems springtime has already arrived.

Would you be so kind as to rephrase your comment. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The reference to "touch not God's anointed," obviously is out of the context of Israel of the Mozaic Covenant. The use of it today, to silence those who criticize the "prosperity false gospel" preachers is clearly pulling it our of context, and thus misrepresenting what the Lord said during the times of David, King of Israel. If you wish to discuss this, I will be glad to accommodate you, but I ask that you not personally attack others, such as calling them "donkeys."

Interpretation of parables, proverbs, etc. is a secondary issue, and has nothing to do with Salvation, which is given by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, as the New Testament teaches. Proverbs are easy to understand sayings to give you wisdom, and parables are easy to understand short stories, again, to give you wisdom. Beyond that, it's up to the individual what he/she thinks. In other words, maturity in Christ is knowing Christ, and applying the basics of the faith to one's life. It isn't having a "correct" understanding of all of the details regarding issues not directly related to Salvation. This channel tends to avoid discussing, promoting, or debating those secondary issues which have historically divided the Church down through the ages.

@@gregapologia7289 That parable is not an easy one to understand. It has to be revealed to you, that is why Christ said to the disciples you have to have eyes to see and ears to hear., i.e., Matt 13:16. You are brushing this off as secondary, when in fact, it relates specifically to the time of Genesis, the time of Christ and today. If you get the interpretation wrong you are not leading the sheep, you are musleading them. You speak of maturity, what exactly is maturity? Do you know? Maturity is going from a state of things that were hidden from you to a state where things are revealed to you. Reread chapter 13 of Matthew it is all about the hidden and about the treasure. What was hidden since the foundation of the world? Do you know? This parable is one of, if not, the most important parables in the Gospels. Once you have this revealed you will understand who exactly are the tares, the convenant of circumsion, why they weaved a crown of thorns on Christ's head, the parable of the fig tree, why Cain killed Abel, why God mentioned the good figs and evil figs to Jeremiah, what is the key of David, why John the baptist said, "the axe is already laid at the root of the tree", why the blind man in Mark 8 was healed twice, why God loved Jacob and hated Esau. Need more examples? I could go on and on. Been studying God's Word for years, not until maybe 15 years ago did God open my eyes to these deeper truths and I am a nobody. And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. Matt 16:17. You wave it off because you do not know who the tares are? It is essential that you know who the tares are. They are enemies of God. They have total lockdown of this world, certainly of the flesh and with their father Satan.