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Honestly I have no idea what they do or what they're good for. Initially I was confused as to why you'd need a fire extinguisher at all in a game where there are no fires, but then I got to thinking that perhaps they're adding to job satisfaction, so I'm just filling the room with stuff in the hopes it does some good. Also, and this is another line of pure speculation, I'm considering whether or not to use them to fence off rooms, so that your employees can only walk a certain amount of squares. That'd sure cut down on patient treatment times!

Yup! My brother got "Eye of the Beholder 2" for his computer in 1994 and I got to watch him play it, so the beginning of that game will always be etched in memory. This game really has been a super positive experience as well, though! Starting out at level 1 can be an exercise in frustration, like in "Dungeon Hack", so this game stands out immediately.

It's incredible how some of the memories from over 25 years ago just come flooding back whilst playing! There was a bug in the game back then, where epidemics would become impossible on maps with separate buildings, because the game would count the event as 'lost' if someone left your hospital without being cured, and if they walked outside from one building to the next, they'd count as having left the hospital.

@tolo84 wild to think that back in the day before the internet was a big thing that we used to go through life without patches and updates for thr most part!

What really sold the experience for me was the multiple levels you could dig up and down through. "Master of Magic" had something similar with the two worlds you could travel through, and it's the absolute best turn-based strategy game in my book, so seeing Cavewars build on that was really cool.

Yeah it's a matter of storming the keep, but first I wanted to try the planting mechanic and see what that was about.

@@tolo84 seems cool either way

For sure! People are saying these games get shorter for each release, but there's still no hint as to how much is left to do. Might last the whole rest of 2024!

How'd you like Two Point Hospital? I hear it's a spiritual successor to this game, which makes it very interesting to perhaps play and compare!

@@tolo84 Oh I loved it. It, as well as Galacticare has the same sarcastic slapstick humor, with not-real diseases and weird funny machines and comedy, with this underlying critical satire of capitalistic society, just like Theme Hospital. Opposed to like, Project Hospital that has you run an manage an actual hospital with actual real world illnesses.

There's a Syndicate agent sitting in the waiting room at the start too!

@tolo84 that's hilarious! I miss the little details like thst in games. I know Easter eggs are littered all over the place now... but I liked it when the point of an eater egg wasn't to be am Easter egg, it was just something silly the devil put in.

Yup, those were the best! For instance, when I played Dungeon Keeper, I didn't even know that the Avatar was a reference to the Ultima series. It's just cool stuff like that, not intentionally for some sort of gamer cred but just because the developers were gamers too.

Wow, I really didn't type that well XD

I'd watch that playthrough!

Me too!

And lined up is Mechwarrior 2, Raptor: Call of the Shadows and eventually Pizza Tycoon! There are just too many great classics!

Never got to try them on the PS1 sadly, but from what I hear they were the premier versions of the game. The PC ports have all kinds of bugs and issues, like for instance in this game back when I originally bought it and the difficulty slider wasn't clickable so you were stuck on medium! Do you remember if the PS1 versions had any weird idiosyncrasies like that?

In 8000 years, forehead muscle development will have changed human interaction fundamentally! The real big talkers will have brow-wiggled their way into a forehead six-pack!

What a coincidence! I can't remember if it was EGM or one of the many gaming mags at the time, but in like January 1997 they sent out an issue along with a demo CD which contained this, Constructor AND Dungeon Keeper! What a lineup, and what an absolutely amazingly great year for gaming!

@tolo84 I miss the demo disc's! I remember getting Rollercoaster tycoon from a cereal box as well! I loved that gameA

Got so many titles to replay on the list now, but Rollercoaster Tycoon is one of those super classics that just flew by. It might take a while but eventually it *will* show up here, since the Tycoon series is my absolute favourite of these types of games.

@@tolo84 great channel to seeing old classics and reminisce.

Glad to have you here! Hopefully you'll enjoy the game!

It's not often that a game ends on this kind of note!

Oh my god, Megapak 5 is where I got it from as well! This, Jagged Alliance and Warlords 2 Deluxe were my favourites, but also played a ton of Terminal Velocity, Pinball Fantasies and a fair bit of Pool Champion too!

@@tolo84 Terminal Velocity was my first multiplayer game!! We played it over null modem cable with my friend playing on my dad's work laptop!! Yo I always wondered what happened to Nookadum, the Keechda dressed up as a noble who ended up running off later on in the game. I remember spending HOURS scouring the game for where he could have gone and it still feels like an unresolved plot point like 20 years later...

I'd need to recheck my playthrough, but I think the fate of Nookadum shows up there. If you're not adverse to spoilers, I could share it with you.

@@tolo84 I mean he has a grave in the third Rebel Base, but a ton of those graves were empty because the mad sole survivor just dug one for each of the people he knew as a coping mechanism... I'm not sure if he's genuinely dead. Seems like a cheap end to his storyline.

@@tsuki-no-akuma Yeah it does feel like there's a whole lot of content planned but never really implemented. The other game in this same universe, Thunderscape, also had things like that where the devs simply had to cut things for time. Personally, I would've loved more time with the rebels, especially around the second and third bases, and a lot more of the Keechda in general!

It's one of the possible effects of going too long without sleep, with the other being that your character goes insane. It was just dumb luck I didn't get wiped out there. Or, depending on how you look at it, unlucky that I almost got my party killed instead of crazy!

@tolo84 ah, I see, makes sense though, the human body can only function so long without sleep

I could try and justify it as some bold new min-maxing strategy, but the truth is I just missed it entirely!

I actually owned Outpost 2 back in the 90's and played it again in 2022, but sadly the recording was lost in a hardware failure. Will be giving it another go sometime in the future, though. Outpost 1 I watched my brother play and can only really remember him making a golf ball factory on some hostile space rock! Did you beat them?

@tolo84 nice! I remember OUTPOST 2 more than one, myself. I now have that itch to play it. Sierra made some killer games that I was too young to understand as a kid.. I DO remember playing number one and selecting to settle Jupiter just to see what would happen.

@@tolo84 I don't believe so.. I was WAY too young and only really watched my cousin play. He entertained me by showing me what landing on Jupiter would be like (instant fail), but it's a fun memory. Kinda wanna play it now though... thay and Black & White 1,.my first 'god' game

Just imagine what people today are missing out on with their fancy auto organizing inventories! :D

The math checks out.

@@tolo84 Thank you but you should see me with the alphabet!

@64Street X comment + Y comment = Z comments?

@@tolo84 EXCELLENT! A person of vision and imagination. Once I get out of jail (12 years) I will contact you to manage my balls of string collection.

Been hearing some really good things about it actually, so if you recommend it then I'll definitely be giving it a go after an attempt at the dreaded 9th Might & Magic!

@@tolo84 I think you'll find it quite a change from what you're used to, but the story is original, branching and the gameplay is solid.

Sounds great, looking forward to it!

@@tolo84 I would also love to see you play the 40k Space Hulk games! They're very tactical and the movement is reminiscent of the might and Magick / EQ1 movement systems.

Ha ha, it's not so bad once you get three games into the series!

This used to be downloadable as freeware, but the website has sadly gone down. I got it from that website through "The Way Back Machine", but if you'd like to play it then I could mail it to you or something. Just let me know!

It's pretty fitting, isn't it? The creator of the game also made the playlist so the credit goes to him!

The overwhelming consensus is that more plebs are needed!

It's so memorable, isn't it? What really hits my nostalgia nerve is the music! It's a bit of a hassle to get running, you need a couple of programs and then spend some time setting them up, but it is doable. I used 86Box, an emulation program that you can use to create a virtual old PC in and install old software that doesn't work on Windows 10. 86box.net/ With the program installed and the virtual PC set up, you will also need a Windows 95 CD-ROM, ISO-file or IMG-file, so you can install Win 95. You'll also need to install all the virtual hardware, which requires some old drivers and programs. Finally, you'll need a Cavewars CD-Rom, ISO or IMG-file as well once Win 95 is installed. Sadly I can't find the tutorial I used to setup 86Box anymore. It was great because it also linked to the files you needed to install the hardware and such, so everything just worked. If you're having a hard time with it then it might be the guide you've got lacks something. I looked around a bit and found this one, which seems reasonable: www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40232

@@tolo84 ok ill learn by myself. yeah cavewars its pretty good the first i learn race in this world. yeah and the music is bit creepy for me when im going 6-10 years old. I love ur channel, i playing theme park too but i never win that game in late game. Its hard for me

Oh, no I've never heard of Origins before. That sounds like just the thing the series has been missing! I never finished Simon 3D sadly, I had too many problems both running the game itself as well as playing it with the 3D controls. It was the matter of the game being too early out of the gate with the 3D for me and it felt like such a jarring difference from Simon 2 (which is one of my absolute favourite Point & Click). If Origins gets released, then absolutely I'll play both it and 3D!

For sure! I liked Triple Triad in Final Fantasy 8, too! Even the FF9 minigame. Just as long as they don't give off the appearance of being overproduced or so hand-holding that you feel like you're painting-by-numbers. This in particular is a nice game once you get into it, because you don't spend time looking for "the best cards" to build a deck, you just play what you have. It's a minigame and it knows what it is and what it's for!

@@tolo84 I think my favorite was gwent in Witcher 3, triple trade I didn't get until I played through ff8 when I was older

I've noticed one of the things that kills a park is research and in particular the leftmost research bar: If you take it before getting all the rides, it'll skip upgrading the rides you've yet to get and you'll lose the chance to upgrade them altogether, but if you research it last, it somehow bugs out the game and tanks your stock price over a couple of years until it goes to 0 and you lose, which effectively puts you on a timer. So what you might want to try is to just skip that research bar, or at the very least experiment with stopping the process before it's finished, and maybe you can find out where and when it bugs the game out!

@@tolo84 your current rides become worthless, even replacing them will not replicate their prior value. Ticket prices drop and you relie heavily on your shops & visitor. The larger ride capacity needs to be utilised to facilitate larger buses, it gets to the stage a double decker will fill up 2 clown acts, and they all need to buy a steak dinner, have a drink at the saloon aswell as playing in the arcade. I use the balloons and novelty shop as a way to monitor how far people got around the park by seeing what people have at the bus stop, I know if they have a gray balloon they completed the left circuit & a blue if it was the right one, hopefully they'll have both.

I've found that ticket prices eventually turn into the best way to empty visitors of money, for three main reasons: Firstly, You get every single visitor instantly paying on the path around the park without detouring, waiting in line or stopping, creating litter or creating a need for toilets. That's better than any shop or concession stand. Secondly, the overhead is 100% since there's nothing you have to keep in stock and there's no base price that's also affected by inflation. So at the point where you empty the pockets of every visitor, the only value you can keep squeezing out of your park is raising your overhead, I.E. raising your prices for food/drinks/toys, or by doing my preferred way: Let them pay everything up front and pocket 100% of it! Also, the way the game is programmed, you can actually extract more money from a visitor than they have through raised ticket prices, so effectively your overhead could turn out to be more than 100%, and if your park is filled with enough rides, entertainers and trees, visitors won't mind paying more than they have! Thirdly, you don't have to stress around with the stock screen to keep things in stock all the time. This helps your peace of mind, helps you focus on working on other attention-intensive tasks, and you can avoid the stock screen which can (and will) cause the game to crash.

​@@tolo84I mean like ques and rides, with the timings for through put. Like a ghost train needs a que of 5, because max capacity is 10 and 2 people fit on 1 Square. A good trick is 2 que tiles for the tubing because if 2 people try to enter at once, one leaves the que. I dont let my visitors roam around, using 2 to 4 ghost trains to filter in more people along a course of shops and rides in an attempt to get them on everything

I never considered maximizing queues for each ride, but it makes sense to not keep people standing still for too long as every second spent in the park is another second a new visitor is effectively locked out from coming in with the bus. With shorter lines there'll also be more space for trees and other doodads that raise the park value and make higher ticket prices viable, so if you can strike a perfect balance of ride queues, there might be quite a bit of added value.