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What if we all dreamed our reality every night, and mandela effects resulted from the most effective dreams?

Every time I see this I am more impressed.

I too, watched this in 1980 on PBS. This was the only production of one of her novels that Ursula K. Le Guin endorsed/approved of...

Utilitarianism The Greatest Happiness of the Greatest Number: What Bentham Really Meant With his famous formulation of utilitarianism, Jeremy Bentham suggests moral acts are those that have the highest positive impact on the world. The good life thus depends not on ‘duty’ or ‘virtue’, but simply on making a difference.   By Jack Maden | December 2023 7-MIN BREAK In his 1776 work A Fragment On Government, the English philosopher and social reformer Jeremy Bentham puts forward his formulation for a new theory for ethics, a theory he calls utilitarianism. Famously, he writes:  It is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong. With this statement, Bentham - a self-proclaimed atheist, intent on providing a secular basis for ethics - suggests the foundation of morality doesn’t have to be some kind of divine authority, nor must it make any appeal to ‘virtue’ (whatever that may be). No: moral acts are simply those that have the highest positive impact on the world.

I've been waiting so long to be able to see this again

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Were the aliens the inspiration for the Vorlons of Babylon 5?

Don’t ask a genie for a wish.

Now thats a good film

BRUUUUUCE!

How much of the original film was lost? I watched the film on PBS in the 80s circa

I found the paperback of this edition at a used bookstore for $11 about a year ago. I really need to dig into it soon.

My Ghu, that's the original movie! I remembered watching it on PBS. Hell of a lot better than the 2002 adaptation. It's been bookmarked and downloaded (just in case) Great to see it again. Thank you very much.

a very influential book for me!

It all comes FULL CIRCLE.. Furkle.. that's a term I seem to have come up with.. or did I go down without it.. .. ..best to just BOX OUTSIDE THE THINK..😅 -Turbofish

Portland did in fact melt down 2020 💥

I am watching it now to know what is it about 😊

I had to search George Orr or Gor Gor. Because as a kid that's what I remembered

Thank you so much for putting this movie on here. I've been thinking about this movie since I was a kid when I first saw it. When it first or shortly after it came out on television. Kept wondering why I never saw it again. Kept trying to find it. It stayed in my mind all these years. Anyway, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.

War can always be avoided. IF one is willing to be a slave.

This rendition of K. LeGuin's prescient novel in 1980 marks for me (and highlights) the transition from mathematician to actor in the same year, which was tumultuous. I only mention this because at the time of viewing this I was on the brink of dumping my dream of being a scientist and activating the dream of becoming an actor. No, I'm not implying I'm any great shakes in the acting world. It's just the synchronicity within the world of Lathe and my world that was so close, so precise; it was eerie. It still gives me chills. I'm so happy to be able to view it here now. Thankyou for posting this!!! Lathe of Heaven was the penultimate viewing experience for me.

I saw this on first run and Bruce Davison has been one of my favorite supporting actors ever since. but until this year I didn't know that Burt Lancaster advised him in 1972 to go for the supporting roles because there were a lot more of them around and he could get more $$$. Davison said it in an interview where he also did an impression of Lancaster.

You should read it now. It's so good.

This was one of my favorite SFF novels as a kid and I was happy when this came out and that they had done such a great job with it.

Turtle power! ❤

Born in 93 never saw this before today I most say though the movies of today are lacking a certain psychological authenticity and creativity that clearly existed in the past. A joy to see.

Fantastic. Thanks are not enough!

A very good movie for those with the patience. The Fort Worth Water Garden was also in Logan's Run..

I so happy when the DVD became available. Something about having to secure music rights., I think.

I find her choice of surname for the character Haber interesting. The famous chemist Fritz Haber can be remembered as someone who did someone wonderful for humanity, with his discovery of the Haber process for manufacturing ammonia, yet also as someone whose invention of poison gas for warfare is horrifying. It is hard to say the ends justify the means, when both ends and means are dubious.

This is the kind of slow, trippy, enigmatic, and atmospheric show I like!

5:48 getting on the elevator man with mustache might be actor who played Luke Skywalker's friend.

listening to this interview in 2024 & in struck by how articulate & intelligent the host is. you don't see interviews like this nowadays

Just finished reading the book. Funny enough, there were a lot of moments from the book that I thought would be fantastic to see on the big screen. I’m excited to watch this, even if it’s a bit dated.

I think the end water feature shot was taken at Dallas council building and was also used in the film Logans run as well.

There's a change here from the original version. They got in trouble because they used a Beatles song without permission. When it was released later, it's someone else covering the song, "a little help from my friends." But it's not the actual Beatles. The original broadcast had the actual Beatles song.

Homophobe Bill Maher, such a hypocrit

I saw this in 1980 on PBS .It had the Beatles recording . The DVD issue has the one made by Elvis Costello .. I have a VHS copy of that original 1980 PBS broadcast .

Oh, and Herbert and Vance.

God, I forgot about this. I loved the book. Remember "The Mote in God's Eye?" LeGuin, Heinlein, Dick, Asimov, Bradbury. We are so cheap now...

40 years

I have never forgotten this brilliant film based upon the equally brilliant novel! I saw it at as SF convention here in Australia.

I saw this when I was 12 and it was mind blowing then as it is now

first read Lathe of Heaven at age 14. reread a few times in high school. then about age 22 started rereading it at once a year. quickly, glossing, and perhaps because of this I develop different impressions each time. love the taoist heart of it.

Here for acdec 😊

Amazing underrated movie!

I saw this on PBS when it aired. Been looking just the name for decades. Someone posted a picture of the water park from a screenshot of Logan's run. Did an image search and found the name of the movie that way. So glad you uploaded this so i could watch this again after almost 45 years.

I was one of the fortunate few (many it turned out) that lucked out to see, "The Lathe Of Heaven" in its only one televised appearance in 1980. Like everyone else, we didn't understand why the movie was not shown again. It simply dropped off the radar. This was long before the Internet so no one could investigate and without social media, no one could talk about it. In the 90s a gray market VHS appeared for sale. But in the 2000s finally a fully legit manufactured DVD appeared, which I purchased. I was thrilled to watch the movie again. The Lathe Of Heaven proves that to make a good movie you don't always need expensive props and special effects. The Lathe Of Heaven was more of a made-for-television movie that succeeded. SPOILERS. Even I didn't know about this until much later on because I didn't see the movie from its very start. What I learned was that a global thermonuclear war devastated Portland, Oregon. George Orr survived the blast but was dying of radiation poisoning. In his death throes, Orr dreamed the nuclear war did not occur and everything was as it was should be.

Young Bruce Davidson was surprisingly convincing as a 17 year old but his "aunt" was surprisingly not convincing as a "sexy" 30 year old.

Remember this plowing my teen age mind when it first came out.