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Obviously the Browns shouldn't draft a QB if they don't like any of them, but I believe that the Browns really need to like one of the QBs in this draft and select him. I want the Browns to bring in a veteran bridge QB, someone like Jameis Winston or Joe Flacco, but I also want them to draft a QB in this draft. With the way young QBs are transforming teams, when you look at CJ Stroud and Jayden Daniels, the Browns desperately need that kind of energy with this team. This fan base needs to feel that kind of hope. And you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket. So that's why I want them to draft a QB in the first round.

In 2021 they were 7-6. They lost their next two games by 2 points each. It wasn't a shit show that it is now. They were competitive. The Green Bay game was tough, but Baker didn't practice the whole week before the game. You're not winning with Donovan Peoples Jones as WR1 and Anthony Schwartz as WR3. People expected a Christmas miracle.

doesnt matter if its deshaun, baker, jameis, or whever. At the end of the day, Stefanski is a terrible coach. Every player he works iwth is worse afterwards. the only one who turned out OK was flacco and only because stefanski COULDNT work on him cause he was just a gap stop. Stefanski getting COTY is the biggest fraud in sports. He's a bum, and the browns will be terrible as long as he's here. Personally, I'm loving watching the browns crash and burn. Screw this team. I'm gonna follow baker and the bucs. Browns are and will forever be the browns.

I disagree with the premise that Kevin has all the power and he'll have his pick of jobs if he benches Watson over the GM's and owner's wishes. There are only 32 opinions that matter in the league and no owner is going to hire a coach who is seen as disloyal. Kevin's most marketable feature is he's a consensus builder -- it's one of the reasons he is the perfect coach for Haslam because Kevin is willing to take the PR hits while keeping his owner involved in all decision making. That would be a valuable trait to a potential future employer but only if Kevin doesn't burn bridges on his way out the door.

I have to disagree with Brad and agree with Casey. Look at it from a different view. If Watson is a failure, then Browns are in QB limbo. That alone will hurt getting money from investors. You can't take for a rookie because that bad of a season will hurt Haslam getting investors money. Haslam is hanging on to a thread, praying something turns around. Haslam getting money is hanging on Watson. It's not hard to see. Wants the failure is admitted it's guaranteed to lose Haslam money. If other way around Haslam would have stepped in to force a Watson once all the season ticket holders called in to try and cancel their membershiip.

I think it's possible People aren't accounting for Haslam's ego. I'll never believe this is Kevin's call unless I here definitively otherwise.

Guys I hope you get this… I agree w Brad and Pete, concerning the question as to why is Stephanski on board w throwing Watson back out there? Remember Stephanski is STILL that nice to a fault guy. That’s why we lack discipline. (and) Even tho it’s so obvious Watson needs to be benched “yesterday “ … Steph and AB know… when they bench Watson , it’s OVER! It’s a wrap no more career! No one’s picking him up ever. So I really truly feel…Steph feels that he owes Watson at least 1-2 games to play with Nick!

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The idea about Jimmy's bank account with the new stadium makes less sense than Kevin Stefanski being a competent coach & being around football his whole life & somehow continuing to march this product out on the field. While he may not be being forced to play Watson, it seems like he knows he can't just bench him because of the implications that will have on his livelihood. To think it's just gonna be that easy to go & get another head coaching job in the NFL is laughable. This is some of the consistently worst QB play we've ever seen. Any other QB would be benched by now. But this isn't any other QB; it's Deshaun Watson getting paid a huge contract we aren't even halfway through yet. Stefanski knows that. I don't think it's just his call. & I think he's smart enough to understand why it's not his call. & I also think he likes being head coach of the Cleveland Browns

230m says it's not up to Stefanski

I'll never understand why Kevin would say, " Yes, let me go get a qb that I'll have to change my entire coaching style for.

G Bush trying to talk about Baker is hilarious considering he wanted him gone more than anybody. Anybody who thinks that gee Bush's legitimate football mind should be checked for their sanity

Pete sounds like PR not gonna lie

You were wrong about Baker and you are wrong about Watson. You can't possibly do a fair evaluation with all the injuries, o line, drops, playcalling, penalties. Just like you can't evaluate Baker when he was injured, while also having injured receivers and o lineman on top of that. But you did. Happy now?

He hasnt thrown for 300 yards in a game since 1/3/2021 back when he was with Houston. Last year, Flacco threw for 300 yards multiple times with pretty much the same talent on offense (less in fact since Jeudy was not on the team back then).

Virtually no one is talking about the role the injury may be impacting his play. It's a valid point since it was such a bizarre injury to his throwing shoulder.

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any chance that this clown is tanking this on purpose to get out

Good morning fellas

First!

And it’s wild Kareem leaves and looks like his old self in kanas city

If your talking about tanking you should trade Amari cooper for a 3rd or/and a 2nd and try and rebuild that oline

And that's what he's been hoping for all along. He never wanted to be here in the first place.

Q, as a professional media person I hope you will appreciate the constructive criticism. The proper phrase is “I couldn’t care less”. Major pet peeve of mine how widespread the misuse of this phrase is. I swear 90% of people use it wrong. Please help me help others to correct this. 😊

We suck balls why should I even watch. Paid a butt load for chargers tickets for fu**ing what man. F this team. F the haslams first and foremost. F DW

Baker would have been good. He had a 26 TD, 8 Int season with Cleveland. He would have improved with experience. He was injured.

The issue that people seem to forget is this. Watson never wanted to be here to begin with

It is interesting that you all hardly referenced any real data on Washington. There was not much evidence to support your optimistic claims. I hope things get better for you all though because many thought this organization was about to make a turn.

It's going to take one or more Browns players to call for the end of this experiment for the Browns to make the switch to Jameis Winston.

Baker Mayfield was always the answer.

The Browns made the playoffs and won a playoff game with Baker Mayfield. They were in NO WAY, this poor of a situation with him at ANY point. That is revisionist history. This is far worse. Baker never looked half this bad.

It starts and ends with Jimmy Truck Stop... and his willingness to ignore serious character concerns of both Johnny Football and Deshaun Watson... which there was ample evidence (and I don't mean college shenanigans). He threw money at a player with 27 allegations of sexual misconduct that (at the time) were unresolved, in a very public courtship while their number 1 pick was recovering from surgery (class act that Jimmy). Now, if you owned an NFL franchise, wouldn't you question the character of that man... and his ability to take ownership, and do the work necessary to LEAD a team? Maybe Haslam isn't that bright, and is just a business man who we don't want in office (whoops!) I mean to own the Browns. In spite the planting of the flag at OSU and drunk fleeing from cops way back when...there's no comparison between Baker and Deshaun. Baker is a class act, a leader and a fiery competitor always looking to improve and who has deep respect for his teammates and coach Bowles... he always points the finger at himself when the team loses. But just in case "words" won't convince you, here's a side by side stat comparison of the two over the past 17 games: Watson 310-517 3069 19-12 (rushing: 87-448 3TDs) Mayfield 364-550 4294 35-10 (rushing: 53-183 3 TDs) Watson makes Weeden look pretty solid by comparison! Oh, and BTW? Tampa has had a terrible run game, injuries on the OL but also several on D (including All Pro Winfield). Baker has had a new OC every year of his career and has played through pain and injuries (torn labrum). So don't point to any other than Watson. Watson is the sole reason for his failure, his lack of leadership and decline in skills. This is what you get when you throw money at a man with serious character issues.

LOL POlice reports/policeMEN are NOTORIOUS for not taking the WOMAN serious bc so many of THEM are Abusers, smh. DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

Agree with Curtis - we need to do a LOT better with how we value women and girls in this world and especially the NFL. The STUDIES SHOW that women RARELY lie about this - there are EXCEPTIONS that the MALE SYSTEM LOVES TO KEEP PROMOTING - it's WAY to dangerous especially against a very powerful man - see Weinstein, Epstein, Cosby, R Kelly, Diddy etc etc. See also Deshaun Watson. Mayo/NFL is all for RACIAL ie MALE justice, but totally keep a MALE SUPREMACIST attitude. Do better Bros.

The reason the Baker situation was untenable was because the Cleveland leadership, media, and a lot of the fans hated him for playing poorly while hurt and ran him out of town. They decided to crucify the player that wanted to gut it out for the city and team rather than the idiotic leadership that let him run himself into the ground. And you celebrated when they threw him out the door. But now here you are, in a situation a MILLION times worse with no light at the end of the tunnel. All because you gave up on a QB that gave everything for your city while he was injured. Browns fans deserve every bit of misery they are getting. Karma’s a bitch!

I dont think Watson cares because he only came to Cleveland for the guaranteed money 💰

Browns have to keep starting the bum. He is being paid $235 Mil. Watson is there for better or worse

Damn. I agree with everything that was said here. Browns fans have gotta be the best in all sports to voluntarily endure what we have in our lifetimes.

GAWD AWFUL READS...WTF!!??

I grew up a Browns, Tarheels, Braves, and Hawks fan. Your comment about the Hawks and Dominique is 100% accurate. I never missed a game on tv with Nique! When they traded him, it crushed that franchise. I haven’t watched them since!

Id start dtr these last 12 games and see what we got with him. Starting watson anymore is just forfeiting games and im not supporting a team that doesnt have the same level of commitment to the brown as us fans, we deserve better competitive football.

Don't give up on Deshaun. It's the coach also, work on that Oline.

Watson has moral and intellectual deficiencies that will impact his skills. So why are you surprised? Watson has no potential as a reclamation project. Because of the greed of demented Haslam braintrust.

I’m sick of the narrative that people keep saying baker would not be able to figure it out in Cleveland. It makes no sense to me. his last year here he played injured. the year before that we had a top 10 offense with Stefanski calling plays and Baker undercenter. People that say that are just trying to cover their ass because they justified kicking Baker outta town. We had our quarterback and we blew it. Classic Browns. And the football gods try to bless us with Joe Flacco and we didn’t even offer him a contract. I don’t know how much better James is gonna be, but I’d rather see him or DTR

Is no way you could come out here every day on RUclips and blame the quarterback for the defense getting beat for special team problems for turnovers and you don’t call like your organization. It’s a bad organization. The Browns is a paper bag organization.

Nobody where the reasonable mind is thinking that the Cleveland Browns is a great organization

Stop lying and putting up videos like this his days is not numbered is a lot of money invested in him. That’s why y’all ran your Flocka out of town stop lying to the people that’s your quarterback for at least the next three years.

Daryl Ruiter… Zac Jackson… Diana Russini… all sports writers who started the alarm very early saying “Um, Watson looks bad in camp…”

Somehow this feels worse than the 0-16 team

So who's decision was it for watson? Haslam solely? AB and Kevin? Was it all three?