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In Radwanska head: The ball is out i can just not play the point. In umpire's head: She challenge the call & which ultimately stop the point. The ball was called in so in Safarova's point.
That ump have marbles in his mouth?
Omg this umpire has lost his damn mind. 2 chances to win the point. Lol. No if it's out, it's Aga's point, if it's in it's replay. That's only one definite chance. Goodness me
You are dumb. What he means is that, if aga won the challenge, she would have won the point. If she loses the challenge and the point is replayed, she still has another chance at winning the same point. You can't have two chances of winning the same point, that would be unfair for safarova. Look at it this way in the two scenarios based on the outcome of radwanska's challenge: Aga wins the challenge, aga wins the point and safarova loses the point. In this scenario, safarova has no chance of winning the point and radwanska would be winning the point definitely. Aga loses the challenge, the same point is being replayed. Aga still has chance to win the point just like safarova in this scenario. Regardless of the outcome of the challenge, radwanska would have 2 chances to win the point while safarova only has a chance to win it in one scenario which is when aga loses the challenge. That's not fair. That's what nouni is saying.
Umpire was right. What makes Radwanska think the point will be replayed if the ball was in since she already challenge it??? Then if the ball was out, the point will be hers too??? That's ridiculous. Well done Mr. Umpire
Wta apologized to Radwanska. She didn't stop the point, the linesperson did. It was either her point or a replay.
Aga trying to explained so cute. Her face, her voice.. Missed her so much
Nouni: "You cannot have two chances to win the point." Aga should have said: "I was not even asking for one!" I am totally with her on this one.
he's actually right, she didn't have to challenge the lineswoman corrected herself and the point was going to be replayed, but aga challenged because she thought the ball was out, her wrong challenge should cost her the point since she stopped play and tried to win the point by challenging
She didn't stop PLAY. Wta apologized to Radwanska. She was right.
nouni is actually right, radwanska could have just replayed the point and not challenged that's what they we're gonna do, she doesn't get to challenge and replay the point, either she thinks the ball is out, and is wrong or she agrees with the correction and doesnt challenge
Wta apologized to Radwanska. She didn't stop the point, the linesperson did. It was either her point or a replay.
All this drama over a point in the first set, and it's (15-15)
She must have felt so crazy at the moment because everyone was telling she was wrong when clearly she was so right
to niezla zadymka :)
Initial call was in, as the out call was corrected. Because of the interruption by the mistake, it would have been a let. But Aga believed the ball was out and challenged. Now when you challenge a ball called in, the point is over and the outcome of the point is decided solely on the outcome of the challenge. The linesman’s mistake has no effect on that rule. I think that’s about right. It’s confusing as hell but the right thing happened, Aga unfortunately had to lose the point.
Bingo!
What's more shocking to me is the comment section where a lot of people think the umpire made the correct call. This was a schoolboy error.
Radwanska only loses this point if she stopped it, which she did not. She's not asking for the point, therefore there's no reason for Nouni to say "you cannot have two chances to win the point". 100% REPLAY.
Aga was so cute back in the day.
Radwanka's challenge means her request to stop the point from being replayed for her certainty of the out ball, this is considered the same actually as if a player stops the play in the middle of the point, she didn't stop the point before the call, but she is stopping it now as the point is still to be replayed, which means definitely that she has to bear the risk in the case of the good ball and she has to lose the point..the other issue is that yes she cannot have two chances to win the point this is a very logical point of the challenge rule for not to be misused by players, and so the chair umpire is totally right in his decision against Radwanska.
Lmao the wta made an official statement apologizing for the error. Radwanska didn'y stop play. It should have been a replay. You're wrong. End.
No the umpire was totally right, Radwanska did stop the point from being replayed by making her challenge for her certainty of the wrong call, so she had to take the risk of losing the point as a result of her challenge. If you read again my comment you will find that the umpire's decision was logical, regardless any apology that might mistakenly have happened.
@@TarekPianoMan wta doesn't care about your opinion. Rules are rules and they apologized. She didn't challenge the ball, she challenged the in call. Under no circumstance she could lose the point. The umpire shouldn't have let her challenge. That's HIS mistake, not hers 🤭
Whatever you say, the Umpire was totally right, and it's your problem that you cannot understand his logical point of view.
@@Foudroyant20 whatever you say the umpire was totally right and it is your problem and other people's problem that you cannot understand his logical point of view.
umpire is right. ball is called good and radwanska chose to challenge. its irrelevant that the ball was called good via a correction. what happens when a player challenges a ball thats in? the player loses the point...which is what happened here.
I dont mean to be arrogant but I dont get how people ( speacially umpire) dont understand this; you losse a point eather if you stop the point or you dont have option to play the ball. Here the only she losses is a challenge as the point was going to be repeat anyway.
that umpire is so fucking bad. always fucking up and costing girls points and matches. The commentator is right, if that is the rule then the umpire should have explained the consequences of the challenge before he allowed the challenge. and where was safarova in all of this, surely she should say let's just replay the point. goodness me
The umpire is definitely right. The ball was called out and then corrected. So the final call of this ball is IN. Because Radwanska hit the ball back so there should be a replay. But Aga turned to challenge a ball that was called IN and is IN, so she lost the point. In short, there are three situations here. 1.Replay the point:If Aga didn't challenge, they have to replay the point. 2.Aga lose the point:If Aga challenged and failed, Aga lose the point. 3.Lucie lose the point:If Aga challenged and won, Lucie lose the point.
Radwanska is 100% right, and it should've been a let. Even though she challenged and got it wrong, the initial out call interfered with her shot and she should automatically get a replay point regardless of the challenge. It would be different had there been no call and she thought it was long and stopped play during the rally.
Umpire is right.
Regardless of whether he was right or wrong here, I think it would've been courteous of Kader to ask Aga if she was sure she wanted to challenge. Maybe she didn't hear the correction, or momentarily forgot that there was going to be an automatic replay. Had Kader reminded her that the point was going to be replayed, maybe this whole situation could've been avoided.
This Umpire is crap... even now....2017!!!
This doesn't happen very often, but the umpire was right. The linesman called out then corrected himself, which meant the point was going to be replayed. Aga decided to challenge, so it is as if she had stopped the point from being replayed. When you stop the point and challenge, you either win it or lose it.
David Saturnino no that is not correct. Haha that is why there are replays.
You didn't understand my point. When she asked for a challenge, she stopped the point. Because the point was already going to be replayed when the linesman corrected the call, she stopped the point and her challenge was wrong, so she lost the point.
David Saturnino sorry but you need watch the video again. Cause radwanska didnt stop the point, the line umpire did. So the point was stopped whether she challenged or not.
well explained, I finally understood the logic of the umpire. Perhaps he shouldn't had let Aga to take challenge and explain her, that the point is going to be replayed anyway (because the linesman corrected himself). But once she challenged, it means as if she disagrees with the replay... Weird situation anyway.
You need to understand its a Big diference to challenge and to stop the point. If Radwanska stop the point, then she losses it as she was wrong but here the point have to be replay as is a correction of the umpire and ir wasnt a winner. Only thing she losses is a challenge. Its not that difficult...
Radwanska is right here, the linesman called out and corrected which is a point replayed anyway since Aga hit the ball and got the ball back. Aga should only lose the point if she were the one to stop the play, but the linesman stopped the play not Aga.
Jacob Haas I understood the situation and the umpire is right. She challenged a ball that was corrected, in this case the ball was in and she loses the point. If she didn't challenge it, the point is replayed. When you challenge a correction, it's either you win or lose
@@Diana-yp3mq Exactly. I'm not sure why people aren't understanding that she is challenging a corrected call, an umpire's decision.
Spot on. I'm not sure what these other knuckle heads are on. It makes complete sense what you said Jacob
The worst umpire of the history
so effectively the lineswoman interrupted the point...baiting Aga to challenge....and screwed her when she lost the challenge, even though she was right there ready to hit the ball back
even though she hit the ball back in play
Holy Shit, she won the point
i saw out.
Kader was 100% wrong... that made Agnieszka lose
no !!!!!!!!!!!!
ughhh , he was so condescending to her, even though she was 100% correct, how is he still an umpire???
+Jerry Murphy Because a player cannot have two chances of winning a point. the LU said OUT and then CORRECTION. if RAD wouldn't say anything it would be "replay the point". Since she challenged the call she cannot replay the point. If the ball was out she would have won the point. she was wrong and therefore lost the point.
+RonkoDDR no, she was correct. she got a letter from the wta apoligizing for the incident. check your facts before posting lies.
@@jerrymurphy5834 where is this letter? I'd love to read it. All I've ever been able to find is someone's interpretation of Aga's interpretation of an alleged letter.
all points in tennis should be decided by computers (hawk eye), not people standing 10m away from the point where a small 5cm ball hits court in speed of 180km/h... makes no sense.
+erelRa yeah but then the average 3 sets match will last 7 hours
That's not true at all - it's been used to great success in World Team Tennis and REDUCES time of the match, not increases.
Yeah but then there would be no d4ma anymore and no one would watch tennis Even for hotties
Aga cuteness factor is off the charts
The case is solved long ago. WTA Agnieszka apologized for the mistake judge.
+Waldemar Huttner can u give me the news source?
+Potro Yeung Clearly he doesn't have it
Let's assume that the umpire is corect. Than by this assumption if a player serves out the first serve, and the serve is called out, and he challenges that call, than offcourse losses the challenge... . Is he entiteld to a second serve?? Well by Kader Nouni's judgement he's not.
This is apples and oranges. By your scenario, he would get a second serve if he loses the challenge. He would not get a second serve if the linesman corrected the call and then he challenged incorrectly. He would lose the point. That's what's happening here. Had Radwanska not challenged the call, the point would be replayed.
She should have just walked out of the court and gave Kader the finger.
The players keep on asking to see the tournament referee or supervisor but honestly I have even less confidence in them. They tend to look clueless and tend to side with the umpire anyway. In this case, I feel like point should have been replayed. Aga didn't stop the point/play to challenge so I don't see how she could lose the point even though her challenge was wrong. And this whole idea of having two opportunities to win the point is dumb.
+jonaloin the LU said OUT and then CORRECTION. if RAD wouldn't say anything it would be "replay the point". Since she challenged the call she cannot replay the point
I 100% agree with you. What is the point in the referee/supervisor? They never seem to be watching what's going on (I assume because they are needed to be in charge of all matches simultaneously), but they could at least be sat watching centre court!?
You can't lose the point if you didn't even lose it. You lost a challenge, but not the point. You can't lose the point if you didn't lose it in the first place. Challenge to see the ball is in or out. Then if it is out, then the ball is out and Radwanska wins the point. If the ball is in, the point is lost if Radwanska was the one who stopped it. But she didn't stop it. Therefore, she didn't lose the point. A challenge is different than stopping the ball. Those are not the same thing. Stopping the ball means ending the point but she didn't end the point. The linesman did. She used a challenge but she didn't lose the point in the first place. She just lost a challenge, not the point. People, you can't assume a player challenging means stopping the ball. Radwanska didn't stop the ball. Therefore, she didn't even lose the point in the first place.
Bob smith I had to repeat myself because people don't get that challenging the ball doesn't mean stopping the ball.
She didnt avoid anything. She was just checking. And as I said earlier, challenging isnt the same as stopping the ball. What, you have to stop the ball to challenge? Like she has to stop the ball all the time to challenge? Or she could use the challenge to check, which was initially is for. To check to ball if its in or out.
Okay, assume ahead then. Assume that she did stop it. Assume that she isn't just checking if the ball was in or out. Assume ahead. Assume so much could only make your argument convincing. She didn't stop the ball. The linesman called out, how do you not stop when called out? And she challenged, she wasn't the one who stopped. She only challenged. I would end his because I think that your assumptions are unnecessary.
+Fábio Coelho The WTA apologized to her after this. The Umpire made the wrong call. The point should have been replayed.
+Sisella Lamp Where's the link? Don't post that link from Tennis Forums. It is not the official link.
incompetent umpire
Radwanska is 100% right, and it should've been a let. Even though she challenged and got it wrong, the initial out call interfered with her shot and she should automatically get a replay point regardless of the challenge. It would be different had there been no call and she thought it was long and stopped play during the rally.
Though, one could easily argue (which I assume Nouni also thought) that the out call didn't affect Aga's shot.
@@JamaalABivens She still made her shot though.
It was a replay until she challenged. Since there was a correction, for all intents and purposes the ball is assumed ‘in’ and she’s gambling that it’s out. I can see the confusion but she’s actually wrong here.
Aga wom this match right?
no, sadly she lose it
No
Kader Nouni..u scumbag
Ok, how was it then? The linesman called out, then Aga played, so the game should be stopped if there was a correction called AFTER the ball was played. It's completely illogical for a "correcion" command if there is a hawkeye system on the court, cause it can verify (therefore correct) the decision. Correction is only confusing players.
What an ridiculous situation! It´s unbelivieble how bad Kader Nouni is...or maybe it was a blackout. Replay the point, no discussion!
If Radwanska hadn't said anything it would be a replay. If she says "challenge" there is only one logical choice: Ball is out -> Her point, ball is in -> she loses the point. For me it doesn't make sense - when it's in - there will be a replay anyhow. That would not be fair.
she challenged first. So what the fuck she doesn`t understand ?You can clearly hear her when she said "OUT". This umpire is an idiot but this time he was right.
What the fuck you don´t understand? Learn the fucking tennis rules! :) Radwanska was right und Kader Nouni ist just embarrassing. Replay the point! Soooo easy!
superjunky3 why ? she said out and she stopped the game ! than she challenged and the ball was good ! so why should that point be replayed ? If the line judge said out as she`s saying then why challenge ? it`s pretty simple to me..
Iloveyou Hatters No, the linesman stopped the game! Linesman said out than correction! What the fuck...:) How tough it is to understand that clear situation? She have to lose a challenge not the point! Sorry for my bad english.
superjunky3 Radwanska said correction not the line judge. The umpire is right. He clearly says "the ball was called out" and it was good. Never mind who challenges she loses the point. Simple.
Iloveyou Hatters Are you kidding me??? Take one minute time and thnk about your logic! Haha! :) Why should Radwanska challange the call, if the linesman call the ball out??? Oh my god...hahaha
Why this referee is still in the circuit.
Radwanska is right like always. Nouni is such an idiot. How the hell can she lose the point?!?!? She was there and the linesman called out. If you have to stop playing it doesn't matter if you're challenging. Didn't wta apologise to radwanska?