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@@Govindan1640 Nice!

@@vapa117 Best of both worlds. That's the way to do it.

@@anujupadhyay10 You bet. I haven't inked mine up in a while, but it's on the docket.

@jasleenkaur-cu9gy prices change, simply Google it. Or search on ebay, etc.

@@am_ma I've used both with the converters, and they are both very smooth. You won't be disappointed.

@thepenman357 Thank you.

@@hmjeon8609 Sorry to hear about your 9016. I'm wondering if since it's such a large pen, if the writing angle needs to be adjusted. Also, you might want to check the feed to see if there's any obstructions in it. You'll need to remove the nib and feed to check all around the feed. Just some ideas.

@thepenman357 Thank you. I tried several easy remedies found on the net, but it is still not wet enough. May be, it will get better over time.

I can't remember if mine did or not. It would be rare for that to happen, I think. Congratz on the bonus ;)

@@Tia-p5f it's nice when it works out that way.

For sure, buying unnamed pens does come at some risk. However, after doing my own research I felt at least as confident with this purchase as I did with too many others. The commenter below (steamdevilspenpit) mentioned that the pen originally came with a "JD" nib (which is included with the pen along with the Jinhao nib). Was "JD" a company? Or was it a nib maker that the company used. I'm not sure. These Chinese pen makers change their names often, or they market the same pen under multiple names. Crazy, I know. Given what I've paid for other Chinese pens, this one is reasonably priced. It is well built and writes nicely. But, you have to like large heavy pens, because this one surely is that.

@Richard-1776 The Pilot brand, in general, is not much for pazzaz. They are more the subdued classy pen company. Montblanc is the same way, only their flagship pens are much more expensive. As for the colors of the 823, I only like the amber. But then, I'm more into earthtones when available. You have some legit points, for sure. Thanks for the input.

@NringePhi yes it is. However, I do also like the brown and gold model. It was a hard choice.

Blue, but I understand why you ask. At some angles it does look greenish.

@thepenman357 Thank you. It has beautiful sheen.

Yep, those steel nibs are great.

@SKYHI. Of course, the clear Kakuno could match with any ink to make it that color.

@@cabbagereviews8513 You'll be impressed. Mine is still holding up well.

@shaugnmetapsi probably your best bet would be to buy another Jinhao and swap the feeds.

@@Vijay_Krishna_ I bet you will enjoy it. I really like the coffee theme.

@@NitishDiwakar Nice fit in the hand, and a smooth writer. Thanks for your input.

@@lisep5575 Yeah, it seems a nice size and weight. And you have to love that large converter.

@@thepenman357 indeed! I appreciate knowing a full tank of ink will give the writing mileage I need, especially for writing away from home. I love the weight and use mine posted. It handles shimmer inks very nicely. The price is a ❤. I’m about to purchase a couple more. I note that it’s now available in blue and a translucent white.

Thank you, I appreciate it.

@user-gl5ld9vm7i LOL, yep, that's me, clear as mud. I'm wanting to focus more on actual writing, and also a couple of different genres RUclips videos. I won't be buying and reviewing pens as frequently, but when I do get a new pen I'll review it.

@davester1432 Yep, good point. This especially happens when the blind cap is twisted out a little. Other pens, like the Eco, have this issue, too.

This pen is no longer made but probably all waterman pens put in cartridges the same way? 🤔

@@JANETCLARK-f4r I believe in my "Fill Dat Pen" video I deal with that issue. Basically, you have to set the pen vertical , nib down, and wait for about 30 minutes. That's an average time, of course. You can also give the cartridge a couple of squeezes, which should push some ink into the feed faster.

When using a cartridge, run the nib under warm water with the nib facing down for a few seconds to get the capillary action going, then lightly pat the excess water off with a tissue before writing with it, hope this helps as it's always worked for me. When using a converter you won't need to do this as the nib is dipped into the ink to fill it.

@darkoz1692 Nice tip, thanks for sharing. It's one I'll try the next time.

@@MissLexus92 Great, glad to help!

@goblinscout9571 Jinhao nib tips, as with a lot of Chinese nibs, are more like European sizes, but are not as consistent in their sizing.

@anguswhite8233 Yeah. But it's different enough. The spear end doesn't have an arrow head.

It certainly wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me, but I just thought I would point out the fault. When - if - manufacturers see these reviews it's a good opportunity to know what's wrong and to make changes. trust me, it didn't ruin my day :D

@@thepenman357 i agree, you're right!

So far, I don't know of any fountain pens from Chinese manufacturers that are specifically dedicated to European/Western cultures. The only thing that could be interpreted in this way is the Fuliwen 2085 (Eagle Knight), although it hasn't been explicitly designated as such. The only historical themes are cultures and/or events from Chinese culture and the Middle East and parts of North Africa. Which is a real shame, because I would certainly enjoy topics related to Western cultures.

@@steamdevilspenpit I mean I like ancient Egypt a lot, and it’s basically part ofd Western history. When zI was a kid, the first thing I wanted to be was an archeologist or Egyptologist. It’s weird, how right I was at such a young age. Of course I’m not either of those things, but I love ancient history. They could make so many cool pens based on Greek Mythology, or the Romans. I’m was complaining, in light of the culturally Marxist times…. I would buy that pen. Ancient Egypt is cool, but I’d really like an ancient Greek themed pen. Opus 88 made a Medusa pen, then included sum moronic half-witted literature saying it was some sort of women's rights pen…Don’t they know the goddess ( i.e.,m a women), Athena turned Medusa into a gorgon? Idiots, lol. I don’t expect anyone to know that, but, if I were making a Medusa pen, i’d certainly research Medusa. No sense at all. Welcome to the 21’st century.

@LewisLittle66 Yep, the 9019 is a beast. I have to use it exclusively when I use it, because writing with a thinner pen along with it makes it seem really huge.

@@oleleclos Thanks for the tip

Yep, you're right. Thin to medium sized pens would work best with that, but that's what most our pens are anyway.

@@thepenman357 I have some cigars boxes that I might utilize with those tray. I did look we link you provided. I did see other variants of same drawers on Amazon I saved your link and another for about $34 I believe.

@@millomancho red and black.