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But Sanders could live with himself turning his back on his supporters after losing the primary-and the likely consequence of them feeling abandoned and thrown away like so much itrelevant and exploited "suckers"-- Sanders can live with that?? Afterwards, sanders had only one ear he could whisper to (biden) instead of tens of thousands who would willingly lend their ears.

Norman will go down in history as the embodiment of the TRUE Jewish people. He stood alone for decades, was shunned, ostracized, vilified because he chose to be a voice for those that had none. Zionist have absolutely no right to call themselves Jewish.

Holy fuck the old decrepit boomer was obnoxious. As much as I hated sitting through his input (and childish interrupting) I'm glad he was put on to contrast the more serious ideas of our comrade and show that academic post-modernism is a useless dead-end for any kind of socially progressive movement that rolls over on it's back to liberalism at the first sign of a challenge.

Quite good. A bit of a diamond in the ruff he is.

Northwestern cancels classes of professor cited during Gaza protests

Why do those who ask questions give lectures?

Also the amount of people who dont get that the fourth guy basically was just doing a bit insulting everyone. I guess to be fair though he was saying this all pretty deadpan

I see the ACP Maga Communists are fully doing their praxis in the comment section

No amount of educated eloquence, indeed even with an accompanying relative politeness from Grayson can hide the reality that Neo Stalinism is still attempting to miseducate and mislead, likely mostly among the inexperienced discontented i suppose. The obstacle to Socialism that it is would be barely tolerable even if it defended its favored States on its own terms but the sickening and obstructive disaster is its attempt to authenticate itself in the language of Bolshevism and Leninism . The irony of a "Marxist" attempting to defend the "space of bourgeois democracy" while at the same time defending " actual existing Socialism" in China was a sight to behold, even the aged new left democrat saw through the futility of trying that convoluted intellectual trick. Why some intellectuals are taken down or guided into the very dark path of Stalinism is a very large question, what is for sure is the obstacle they pose for Socialists. Tin hat on.

So much more research on the Marxist influence and assistance during the American Civil War, from Marx and Engels, to August Willich and the Revolutionary 48ers, the cross pollination of the International Working Men's Association and the Red Republicans into the Republican Party Establishment at the time. So much more research/presentation is to be done on this matter.

4th panelist repulsive through and through

Who this bald old guy thinks he is? Interrupting like this! Child that can’t control himself.

00:00 - Introduction [Opening statement of participants] 03:20 - Eva, student at New school 06:05 - Dan Lazare 18:25 - Joe Whitcomb 28:25 - Norman Finkelstein

Die Corona-Zeit hat viele, die mehr oder weniger gut an der Grenze zum Wahnsinn balancierten, endgültig hinüber gestoßen. Da steht Wermüller in einer Reihe mit Naidoo, dem Wendler und wahrscheinlich auch Staiger🤷‍♂️

The pessimistic New Left boomer perfectly exemplified the right wing of DSA (North Star Caucus, Groundwork Caucus, Socialist Majority Caucus). Identity-pilled, obsessed with lesser evilism and passionately opposed to strategic vote withholding from professional Democrats.

What each speaker encouraged 1. Organize for the Revolutionary Communists of America (RCA) 2. Vote for Kamala. Discuss race & gender more, class less. 3. Organize for the American Communist Party (ACP) 4. Join a mutual aid group

Excellent debate that captures the main tendencies of the American Left (optimistic trots, New Left pessimists, pro-CCP patsoc Stalinists, and movementists). Unfortunately Platypus disappointingly continues its allergy to professional audio. Hire an AV worker. Keep pens and paper shuffling away from the microphone.

You got MOGGED by Grayson

Profoundly disrespectful boomer. Why should anyone respect your ideas when you keep having outbursts like a child?

This comment section has been raided by cult-like fanboys of a internet streamer community associated to one of the participants of the debate. Watch the debate for ur urself before allowing their herd mentality to influence your opinions on it.

Really appreciated the opportunity to listen to Grayson on this panel. Incredible insight from this young man.

Howie Mandel really hates the ussr 😅

Grayson is right. That’s it.

2:01:30 everything in a nutshell, thanks to all panelists, especially mr. shulman

The first speaker immediately puts the cart before the horse: he doesn't even explain what democracy really is, but just jumps to this opportunistic question about "how communists can make use of it"-- as if its even clear that that is a possibility at all.

Imagine...using Gramshi to justify to vote for Harris,and i say that as non American. Beside the Irony what Harris did in her position in power,filling the jails,on base of Profit Maximisation. Gramshi rolls right now in his Grave. Sorry for my Gramma Comrades,Anglo is not my Native Language.

The professor was interestingly correct about many of his points but came to entirely different conclusions than ACP. Marx was about production, Lenin leads to stalinism, the importance of providing a form of politics that allows the masses to interpret and understand their reality, etc. I also like that he rejected being called ‘small d’ haha.

The guy on the right’s anarchistic jibber jabber about how looting money from the cash register of local small businesses is a revolutionary act is just laughable. He says Leninism, which was the basis of multiple world super powers and many other smaller socialistic states, ‘failed,’ while BLM looters and rioters somehow succeeded? Its complete nonsense. By what criterion was CHAZ a success and the People’s Republic of China a failure?

Grayson effortlessly maintains a physical & an intellectual mog throughout the conversation

🤣@54:05 Howie being very rude not clapping there and salty as hell! F***in boomers man. They cannot let go of that cold war propaganda instilled into them. They just too damn old and set in their world view.

Grayson’s performance on the panel was nothing short of exemplary. His eloquence, coupled with an incisive grasp of the subject matter, made his contributions not only intellectually stimulating but also pivotal to the overall discourse. With each thoughtful interjection, Grayson demonstrated a rare ability to distill complex ideas into accessible insights while simultaneously enriching the conversation with a depth of understanding that commanded the audience’s attention. His presence elevated the dialogue to a higher plane, leaving a profound impact on both the panelists and the attendees, and underscoring his intellectual prowess and skillful engagement.

1:43:26 The old man on the panel reveals the "New Left" has today, with its rejection of Marx, become fascist. Or was it fascist all along?

Everyone except Grayson is stuck using the and understanding the world through the establishment liberal logos. It's only Grayson that has a advanced communist logos. He's even more technologically advanced using a laptop. ACP sweep.

That professor was such a rude speaker. He couldn't be satisfied with his own speaking time, but instead continuously interrupted the other speakers.

All grayson did was seny Duginist and Heideggeran influence on the ACP..

Thanks Grayson for holding to marxism.

The older guy sounds like Kautsky. He's twisting what it means to have a democracy by giving a general, ahistorical analysis of the history of democracy as being uneven as "wrong". But that ignores the question of "democracy for who?" Should we give even "democracy" to the few capitalists once we communists hold power? I say no, we shouldn't. And I strongly disagree with his assessment of the race line and how America is a "white supremacist country" because the white working class is racist. These are idealistic ideas that aren't backed up by material conditions or reality. This isn't to say that individuals aren't racist and that racism isn't still institutionalized, but thats not a representation of the vast majority of the white working class. What power does the white working class have? Isn't it our goal to give to unite the working class and bring about a government of, for, and by the people? How productive would a working class "revolution" be if it were splintered by like race? Dude is seriously arguing that the primary struggle should be based on race and gender instead of class🤦🏾‍♂

LET GRAYSON SPEAK!

Does this guy Grayson have a youtube or writings somewhere? He spoke well.

These trots are a joke, I could never stand them. Grayson makes sense, good see that old-school 'stalinists' are back.

Grayson is a breath of fresh air. Thank you Platypus for shining a light on this young man!

The anarchist utopian sounded utterly ridiculous

Grayson proves real Marxism is back

Greyson makes me wanna join ACP

Never heard of this Grayson guy before but he makes a lot of great points!

Impressed by Grayson. I wonder why the ACP doesnt present him more often? Haz rarely ever sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

1:03:08 😂

First guy: remember 2016 Second guy: remember 1933 Fourth guy: remember 2020 Grayson: remember 2036

4:10 jacobin speech prosecution, and others

China is the real deal. Don't be confused