I love the orchestral atmospheric music and ship sounds as the Klingon bird of pray de-cloaks, it really gives you a sense of the size of that big ship as it over shadows that small cargo vessel, it seems to be an art form lost in the modern CGI films.
Good Star Trek movie, but even back in '84 teenager me thought that the Valkrys ship set looked cheesy, especially when she "transmits data" by dropping a plastic box into a painted cardboard slot, lol.
I understand the explanation for why Kruge did not want Genesis information to get out. But why couldn’t he have just transported Valkris aboard his ship and then destroy the freighter? Surely he didn’t think the freighter would put up any kind of meaningful resistance to an attack even if they knew it was coming? Bit of a plot hole.
I was 7 when this came out & even then i was like why dont they beam over first. I just wish they put back in the sub-plot about them, the Klingon version of Rouge One, stealing the BOP from the Romulans. Maybe tie it in with the BOP & plot of ST6. Nanclus then starts planning to blow up Praxis
What's neat is the lighting of the sets in this movie. Blues, purples, reds... its lit much the same as the tv show. And it works perfectly. Even the Excellsior bridge is colorful to a degree. Bright green lighting on the floors.
It wouldn't be until the time of Worf, Gordon and the Durass sisters that Klingons of stature would follow Christopher Lloyd's Kruge. He did really well with this role, which is underrated. For this scene, unless Kruge's Bird of Prey was an experimental prototype, privateers should have known a Bird of Prey could cloak/decloak....
One explanation could have been that the smugglers had some deal with Kruge that while he would hand over the contraband first, he wouldn't let Kruge have Valkris back until pay-off. It isn't confirmed until ST:VI that a foreign transporter can be blocked, but I think it's always been implied.
@@DellaStreet123 If you can destroy the ship you can certainly disable it and then beam aboard your girlfriend. The implication seems to be that she wasn't permitted to view the data. She had to be sacrificed. She took it well.
@@seanwebb605 Yes, Valkris had to die because she watched the video...and told Kruge about it. In the novel -- I know, the novels aren't canon -- she went on this mission to restore the honor of her family. She watched the tape and told Kruge about it so she would be killed as part of the mission and, to put it with Kruge, be remembered with honor.
Take note everyone - the klingon bridge is the same set as from TMP - just the rear, circular section. It was reused as the torpedo bay in TWOK - Kruge's chair is where the torpedo was lowered and he has his back to the loading hatch.
Could the Klingon command chair get any higher?
Why doesn't he just beam her over to his ship? Seems unnecessary to kill her.
I love the orchestral atmospheric music and ship sounds as the Klingon bird of pray de-cloaks, it really gives you a sense of the size of that big ship as it over shadows that small cargo vessel, it seems to be an art form lost in the modern CGI films.
Good Star Trek movie, but even back in '84 teenager me thought that the Valkrys ship set looked cheesy, especially when she "transmits data" by dropping a plastic box into a painted cardboard slot, lol.
Where can i get one of them klingon dogs???
What a waste of nice milkers.
Valkris was the hottest Klingon
Klingons will "Free Palestine" 😆
Funny that the one guy tries to run. Um, that's not how it works, pal.
So why does she have to die but Kruge has no issue having two random bridge NPCs see the tape?
I did not know Christopher Lloyd played in Star Trek until I saw the birthday post on Facebook.
Why didn't he beam her to his ship and have a klingon ship wench to accompany him and leave the humans in the freighter high and dry?
Because, you know, he couldn't just beam her aboard his own ship. Great movie. Fuckin' stupid moment.
Best part of the movie
1kb of data transmitted
Back in the day on Earth, captains had parrots as their mascots not angry mascots that could eat you. m
Klingons are space pirates
I understand the explanation for why Kruge did not want Genesis information to get out. But why couldn’t he have just transported Valkris aboard his ship and then destroy the freighter? Surely he didn’t think the freighter would put up any kind of meaningful resistance to an attack even if they knew it was coming? Bit of a plot hole.
Genesis does what Nintendon't
Por que não teletransportaram a Valkris para Ave de Rapina?
No witnesses.
That seat on the klingon ship looks uncomfortable
First appearance of the Bird of Prey which would be the primary ship used for future movies and tv shows. Personally I liked the Battle Cruiser more.
He couldnt have just beamed Valkriss over?...
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I was 7 when this came out & even then i was like why dont they beam over first. I just wish they put back in the sub-plot about them, the Klingon version of Rouge One, stealing the BOP from the Romulans. Maybe tie it in with the BOP & plot of ST6. Nanclus then starts planning to blow up Praxis
the Klingons' mom would not buy them the SNES, Genesis was all that Woolco had
Why not just beam her over to the bird of prey and into custody if she's become a liability?
Christopher Lloyd as a Klingon is one of Star Trek's best ever casting choices.
Having spent time in Mongolia it's easy to see Klingon culture and language is based on Mongolians.
turn up the phil collins
If you think about it the Russians and the in the Chinese have wore on their minds and have no regard for personal play some every individual
Why didn't he just beam her aboard....
are those supposed to be Ferengi 🤔
What's neat is the lighting of the sets in this movie. Blues, purples, reds... its lit much the same as the tv show. And it works perfectly. Even the Excellsior bridge is colorful to a degree. Bright green lighting on the floors.
If i was the Klingon Capt., I would have said the transmission was garbled. I would want to motor boat later than evening.
If the Klingons “bought” Genesis, Kruge wouldn’t need the “secrets of the Genesis torpedo” from David Marcus.
Definitely not my favorite original cast movie, but one of my favorite scenes.
Those freightor simps were the same as the left wing tards who spied for Russia during the cold war! How ya feelin' now dummies!
one of the best star trek moments is when Kirk gives him the boot.
if Jim Ignatowski got control of spaceship, this is what it would look like
It wouldn't be until the time of Worf, Gordon and the Durass sisters that Klingons of stature would follow Christopher Lloyd's Kruge. He did really well with this role, which is underrated. For this scene, unless Kruge's Bird of Prey was an experimental prototype, privateers should have known a Bird of Prey could cloak/decloak....
Never understood why she couldn't just beam herself and the info aboard.
One explanation could have been that the smugglers had some deal with Kruge that while he would hand over the contraband first, he wouldn't let Kruge have Valkris back until pay-off. It isn't confirmed until ST:VI that a foreign transporter can be blocked, but I think it's always been implied.
@@DellaStreet123 If you can destroy the ship you can certainly disable it and then beam aboard your girlfriend. The implication seems to be that she wasn't permitted to view the data. She had to be sacrificed. She took it well.
@@seanwebb605 Yes, Valkris had to die because she watched the video...and told Kruge about it. In the novel -- I know, the novels aren't canon -- she went on this mission to restore the honor of her family. She watched the tape and told Kruge about it so she would be killed as part of the mission and, to put it with Kruge, be remembered with honor.
Good to know that 1980s video game cartridges were still in use in the 23rd century to upload data
Given Valkris was part of a covert operation defintiely not sanctioned by the Klingon High Command (?) she probably won't be remembered with honour
Take note everyone - the klingon bridge is the same set as from TMP - just the rear, circular section. It was reused as the torpedo bay in TWOK - Kruge's chair is where the torpedo was lowered and he has his back to the loading hatch.
That Klingon "dog" was a nice touch...
Its weird and strangely cool that this exact Bird of Prey would later travel through time to save Earth and eventually end up in a Starfleet Museum.
When this Bird of Prey hits 88mph. You're going to see some serious shit.