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Cleanest park I've ever been too, employees make a long line feel short as well. Big fan of this park. My home park is cedarpoint and i was still shocked visiting this park.

Knoebel’s is a BEAUTIFUL Park.

Great video! Love the music choices!

Knoebels is a place that has such a great vibe, that it doesn't need huge coasters or a bunch of flashy stuff. I love it,and I've been to parks all over the country. Honestly I thought it would be dull, but had SUCH an awesome time. I return every other year when I can. ❤

I like your suggestion of how to redesign the queue. On my visits, the tunnel would always be very stuffed with people, then the 2 lines after metal detection would always be overflowing. So even if you're able to walk straight into the tunnel through fast lane or the regular line, it's a 45-minute wait. I also noticed, through experience, that the line for people who didn't need a locker has a longer length to it, and it was always full. My friend went into that line, while I went to the lockers & that inside line, and with both lines full, I was riding 5 trains before him, and then the ride broke down before he got to ride. When both lines are full, just pretend you need a locker, even if you don't. Walk to the lockers, then turn around and go to the metal detectors. You will be riding sooner. You're welcome. In regards to Gemini, it has been my saving grace. While everything is over an hour, Magnum included, Gemini would be 15-20 minutes. But one thing I've noticed about Cedar Point, they HATE to even have a ride that doesn't have under an hour wait. They would rather remove a ride or leave it closed than operate a ride with a reasonable wait. It hasn't always been this way at this park. This is more of a new thing in the last 5 years or so, and it's made trips to Cedar Point far less enjoyable than it used to be.

You know what, I may be considering skipping out on Indiana Beach this year due to people talking about how bad the restraints are on All-American Triple Loop.

Putting the metal detector at the very beginning b4 you wait through the line seems the best idea imo...don't even need the 2nd lockers if u use the lockers at the beginning then get checked entering the ride line 🤷‍♀️

The metal detectors for SV are _supposed_ to be looking for things like phones, keys and earbuds, so it seems silly to me that you complain about them being more sensitive than the ones at the park entrance.

Shivering Timbers is a super fun woody!

Good thing ya caught a ride, considering it's closed now. Glad ya had a decent time. Cedar Point is one of my fav parks in the US. As for Top Thrill 2, I'd be skipping it anyways. It seems dull to me, as I'm more of a fan of spinning, inverted, or RMC type coasters. (My fav coaster in US is X2, followed by Velocicoaster) The original dragster bored me, too. Im weird, I know. I'm just not that thrilled by airtime or speed alone. Its ok, but not enough for me. Plus I like longer rides.

Man, youre a brave one for withstanding a Saturday at ANY park. 😂Im a weekday person, no matter what park I go to, or where. I'm lucky to be retired. I'm also all about single rider. It's just easier on me, and a lot of times they'll let me pick a seat. Kudos for the vid. Cant wait to check out this park on my midwest trek this summer!

I've heard ALOT about how aweful that triple coaster is. I think I'd be skipping it, as my neck already has issues, and I hate head banging on a ride. Ugh, sorry for your pain. But the park does look fairly fun.

To add, thanks for adding flat rides. Most people skip over those, and I love em.

Thanks for such an informative vid. Appreciated, as I'll be roaming around this part part of the country while rving, and on my way up to Ohio for Cedar Point. Will definitely stop here.

I agree with the safety concerns but not with requiring riders to store belongings in lockers before they get in line. Velicoaster at Universal and Tron at Disney have lockers at the end of the queue, just before you enter the station. This way you can have your phone with you in line and then store it when it's time to ride. Nobody wants to wait an hour or more without their phone. They have attendants ensuring guests don't bring loose articles onto the ride with this system as well. And the lockers are double-sided so you exit on the opposite side and retrieve your belongings. All the advantages of lockers without forcing people to part with their phones.

Steel vengeance "SteVe" has lockers you can pay for across from the entry way of the queue. I support the use of upcharge lockers. We go for 12-13 hour days in just about every park we go to. The only thing on me is the unlimited drink wrist band, a locker wristband (depending on the park), and a credit card in a zipped or buttoned pocket. The person I normally go with, we are normally on our phone all day type of people, so going to the park and leaving them locked up for hours is kind of nice to be honest.

Folks. Fast pass doesn’t mean front of line. The line design doesn’t matter It is the number of people in line. Metal detectors take time. I had a metal belt buckle and got the wand. The wand is the issue. Just rode it 6 times last week. Do a take about maverick. That is the worst I have ever experienced plus it breaks every few hours and screws the people waiting

SFGAdv in 2016 had a system where employees would check pockets and if you didn't have at least one pocket that is zippered, you were sent to the lockers unless there was nothing in your pockets. There should at least be something like that because not having your phone is bad like what if a friend or family member gets sent to the hospital or an emergency comes up like if I'm out of town and there was an earthquake that damaged my town?

Until the early 2000s, Tig'rr ran with no restraints at all. Get in. Sit down. Hold on.

Great video. Thanks

do you know where you do NOT HEAR about lose articles? Island's of Adventure and Universal Studios!. Cedar Fair needs to adopt this 1- lockers need to be free and large enough to hold Fannie packs, cell phones and keys for riders. 2- this needs to be enforced by a ride attendant Once people know what to expect with no loose articles, they will abide and honestly, i didn't miss the articles while waiting. Furthermore, the one thing i have always been afraid of losing, my keys, i have never actually had happen but would be horrified to experience. It's all preventable and the park owes it to guests to make this easy and free to do.

Steel Force at Dorney Park has a unique bin system with shelves that coincide with which train you are riding. A shelf for the red train, one for the blue train, and one for the black train, and most of the time Steel Force is two train ops. Once the guests put their belongings on the shelf that coincides with their train, the ride attendants slides the door that is covering the train that is approaching the final brakes, to the train that is about to leave the station. As someone who worked at Six Flags New England last season as a ride operator while I was attending technical school in the area, I can tell you how many times people still lost their phones due to them being so dumb enough to take it out after the train has left the station, thinking that the operators and attendants wouldn't notice. I can stress enough of how the security team must have felt overwhelmed of getting reports from ops saying that guests were taking phones out mid ride or jumping the fences to retrieve lost items. One such case last year at that same park while I was attending as a guest, when I was about to get in line for Wicked Cyclone they had to shut the ride down due to someone jumping the fence to retrieve a season pass card, YES, A SEASON PASS CARD WHILE YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT ON YOUR PHONE, like, you had to shut the ride down just for a card for your season pass which you can have through your phone.

I appreciate you making a video like this! I’m visiting in July and I thought the lockers were at the front of the queue! Thanks for informing me about this so that my party can take all loose articles off before the ride so that we can all go straight to the detectors.

Great idea!! It seems that just having signs aren't enough. And not having to pay for a locker each time would [hopefully] deter those who feel inconvenienced from ignoring those rules. Those who are on the rides when these things happen have mental scars forever as well, and someone other than the parties witness to these horrific events need to be made aware of how dangerous this has gotten, and how bold and "safe" people think they are. One vid about this alleged that the man was warned not to go through, entered through an employee door, and was struck. If this is so, ALL DOORS ACCESSING THE RESTRICTED AREAS OF THE RIDE NEED TO BE LOCKED DURING OPERATION.(emphasized only.) Regardless, those employees have to deal with that for the rest of their lives as well. Its a loss for all involved.

Please help them

Why would they buy a deadly coaster!!! I think they need to fix this!!! Please tell them!!! File a complaint!!! Safetey

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Yukon Striker has the perfect solution, I hear. I was talking about a moveable bin, that corresponds with the trains. Its there right before you load to put your stuff in just before you board, then it rotates so no one can get to your stuff, and it allows for the next train. Then its on the exit side of the platform when you pull back in so you can grab your stuff. The person said "oh so just like Yukon Striker?" Its perfect. You carry everything up on the platform with you, and you dont ride with anything, knowing that no one will have access to it until your train comes back to the station.

Fanny pack. Peoblem solved.

They do need to change. Small hip/waist bags that attach to your belt and are fine in extreme motorsports on motorcycles and high speeds should be allowed on roller coasters so that we women don't have to remove our belts every ride and risk not being able to ride home if some foreigner steals our bag with our phone and keys in it.

The individual involved in this incident has passed away from his injuries.

ive got an upcoming trip to a local park planned and went to a store recently with my wife to hunt for a fanny pack. when i went to this park as a kid and even the local area zoo i remember we would always get these in the 80s as a safer way to hold our items. and now with the advent of having car keys and cell phones they seem even more important for a day out to an amusement park. and a fanny pack is cheaper and easier to wear than hunting for pants with zipper pockets in husky sizes. and i say this as im at the physical size where i may fit on a decent amount of rides but pants with zippers would be hard to find. personally i think the parks could make a killing selling themed fanny packs right at the front entrance. advertise them as "keep your items safe and have a wearable souvenier." if the park im going to has them i may buy one there as an extra. plus side if they make them water proof.

No they don’t the guy climbed 2 major fences everyone should not be punished just because of one person

I bring a hip pack and an average IQ to every amusement park I visit. I've never lost any items and I remain capitated.

They want everyone to use their phone for the fast passes though so you literally need to bring your phone to the front of the line. They need better storage options for riders.

Your idea is really good, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then again, people need to do what they're told, and put ALL thier crap in the damn locker! One thing I love about Universal in Orlando, is they have the quick que down pat. Doesnt take long, and all the lines are separated. They even have single rider line, which helps a ton. I mean, if you're going to pay for fast lane, it had better be fast! And to have different rules for all rides? Thats just stupid and insane for the guests, and the safety. All the rides need to have the same rules.

maybe if the lockers were free this would've never happened, i aint paying money everytime i wanna ride something

In line lockers aren't the issue. It's how the park manages to implement them. Whether dual lockers or pre- line lockers.. they should just be incorporated into the park ticket/ season pass.. it shouldn't feel like your paying for it every time

I always wear zippered pockets and never lost anything on a ride.

Universal has that policy on Hulk, Velocicoaster and Rip Ride Rocket. Stuff has to go in a locker and then you have to go thru a metal detector.

Wild cats revenge uses in line lockers they seem to work quite well, but I can see how the lockers before the line could be easier for parks.

The best policy for loose articles is have zipable pouches on the underside of the seat one u zipper it after u lowered the harnesses it is impossible to take them out again till the ride stops

Rode it opening weekend and made the mistake of riding in the last seat. Totally agree.....needs new restraints ... at the very least. Those transitions in the track are violently brutal to the head/neck area and you absolutely cannot brace for it. I'm glad you enjoyed the park. I love the place and visit regularly from 5 hours away. Been going there since they built the Hoosier Hurricane. Cornball Express IS the coaster gem of the park with it's airtime filled rump above and around the kiddieland area. The classic traditional amusement park atmosphere there can be mesmerizing in the evening. An inland boardwalk amusement park on a beautiful lake in the middle of cornfields in north central Indiana. Thank you Tom Spackman and now Gene Staples.

Been on these trains before. I didn't have a problem with them. But I agree if they could find the trains without those stupid shoulder restraints if would be awesome. B&M built trains for mindbender so they could probably produce them for AATL

If they replace the trains on AATL, it can be a hit. They need the lap bar only trains or at least some with maybe even comfort collars. Anything but this.

Works so good at carowinds. You can ride front row of fury 325 10 minutes apart from eachother

Another thing that is asinine at Cedar Point is the access pass. My wife loves the roller coasters and just last weekend we went and she wanted to ride Steel Vengeance. They write your boarding time down and add whatever the current wait time is after that so it was 2 hours. We proceeded to wait and tried to get her on two trains and the ride ops said let's get this block off for extra leg room to get her in .. The ride ops got the key stuck, called maintenance and the train was put out of service for the rest of the day, come to find out that they only have ONE copy of the key which I told the supervisor is just dumb because now she can't get her on ANY of the trains... So I told my wife, I love you and I'll help her on every ride except Steel Vengeance.... I just don't want to get involved in that malarkey mess again so that I don't say anything that will get me ejected from the park. I think that to make the loose article policy fair for everyone, no cellphones should be permitted at Cedar Point period! And the restrooms are so outdated it's not funny. Back in 2019 when Tony Clark hosted the celebration video for everything that was supposed to happen in 2020, I asked about renovations to restrooms and was made fun of. Everyone says oh that's just Tony, well I'm sorry but in my personal experience from meeting him he is not a very nice person.

The part you didn’t mention is how they try to scam a few extra dollars off you by scaring people into paying for a locker before entering the line. If I remember correctly there is no clear statement that free lockers are available in the line queue.

I respect the Lose article policy at these parks, matter fact they need to enforce this policy on every coaster well!!! the more extreme one's. I remember losing my car keys on superman ultimate flight and great adventure, all because I decided to place my car keys in my jacket button pocket and some how, they manage to fall out and I think they fell out during the bottom of the pretzel loop. The ride ops told us that we would have to wait for the park to close and someone will go back and check but, I used to be a ride op decades ago so I knew these new breeds of ride ops was not going to do no such thing. After waiting almost 2 hours in the ran for another friend to head back to the park and pick us up, I had to leave my car in the parking lot, go to the dealership the next day and get a new key fob which cost me $200, and ever since then, I purchase a locker and place EVERTHING in it. Lesson learned. I do like velocicoaster locker system, it's pretty efficient. Steel Vengeance whole queue system if horrible and I dreed it every time I get in line ugghhh. I skipped it last year because of the long wait time, downtime and f**** up queue locker system.

First off it takes one bonehead to ruin it for everyone which has already happened. 2. CP is liable period. If they weren’t then you would be able to take whatever you want on the ride. 3. CP knows that due to the intensity of the ride anything on a person is LIABLE to fly off! CP tells you this before even entering the line. Plan accordingly!?!?! 🤦🏻‍♂️ o and the metal detectors yea they do what they are supposed to do. Metal belt buckles yup. Piercings visible and none visible yup.