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What we all need to seriously consider as a body that desires to honour Christ is to think carefully and in prayer, do we want to be a church that ultimately honours God's Word or cherry pick God’s Word, to fit our own personal or our societies' desires and cultural trends / contemporary wisdoms? In this sermon Pastor Dale says that the church is counter cultural, which it indeed is and should be, he mentions Paul saying we should deny ourselves. Being counter cultural, Pastor Dale mentions what Paul teaches in the Bible, warning about contemporary wisdom and that following contemporary wisdom is “ a catastrophe in the making” Dale espouses Paul's teaching, yet Paul in God’s Word clearly states. 1 Timothy 2:12 “ I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man: I ask that you to click on this link below and read this article regarding this subject, I've added the final paragraph of this article below. "If the Bible supported women pastors via direct mention and a list of character traits they need to possess, I would be among their biggest fans. My view has nothing to do with opinion, male dominance, abuse of authority, or male chauvinism, but everything to do with the principles given in Scripture that allows each role to complement the whole. Times change, but truth does not." www.christianpost.com/voices/women-pastors-what-does-the-bible-say.html

What we all need to consider as a body that honours Christ, is to think very deeply and in prayer, do we want to become a church that ultimately honours God’s Word or cherry picks God’s Word to fit our own personal or our societies’ desires and cultural trends / contemporary wisdoms? In this sermon Pastor Dale says that the Church is counter cultural, which it indeed is and should be, he mentions Paul saying we should deny ourselves , being counter cultural. Pastor Dale mentions what Paul teaches in the Bible warning about “contemporary wisdom” and the following contemporary wisdom is “ a catastrophe in the making”. Pastor Dale espouses Paul's teaching, yet Paul in God’s Word clearly states. 1 Timothy 2:12 “ I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man. “ We can’s sipmpy agree what Pauls teaches, most importantly what God’s Word teaches to suit ourselves or “contemporary wisdom”. I deeply urge you to click on this link below and read this article regarding this subject, I've added the final paragraph of this article below. "If the Bible supported women pastors via direct mention and a list of character traits they need to possess, I would be among their biggest fans. My view has nothing to do with opinion, male dominance, abuse of authority, or male chauvinism, but everything to do with the principles given in Scripture that allows each role to complement the whole. Times change, but truth does not." www.christianpost.com/voices/women-pastors-what-does-the-bible-say.html

Thank you for this word Dale……you listen for the hurt, brokenness and dysfunction…..” I cannot change what you do not embrace” ……from a posture of humility and powerlessness. Amen !

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Amen Hallelujah, thank you pastor Dale for that beautiful sermon that everyone needed to hear from the Almighty Lord Jesus Christ our beautiful sovereign Lord God today Amen Hallelujah ✝️❤️🙏😇💛🙌🏻🔥✝️🙏🔥🙌🏻

God Bless you Pastor Dale Amen Hallelujah ✝️🙏😇🙌🏻🔥✝️

AMEN HALLELUJAH ❤️✝️🙌🏻🔥🙏😇💛

Watching from Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India. Grand parents of Micah, Joash and Zadok.

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Thank you Dale !

The Word of God proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14). God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, since pastoring definitely includes preaching, teaching publicly, and exercising spiritual authority. There are many objections to this view of women in pastoral ministry. A common one is that Paul restricts women from teaching because in the first century, women were typically uneducated. However, 1 Timothy 2:11-14 nowhere mentions educational status. If education were a qualification for ministry, then the majority of Jesus’ disciples would not have been qualified. A second common objection is that Paul only restricted the women of Ephesus from teaching men (1 Timothy was written to Timothy, the pastor of the church in Ephesus). Ephesus was known for its temple to Artemis, and women were the authorities in that branch of paganism-therefore, the theory goes, Paul was only reacting against the female-led customs of the Ephesian idolaters, and the church needed to be different. However, the book of 1 Timothy nowhere mentions Artemis, nor does Paul mention the standard practice of Artemis worshipers as a reason for the restrictions in 1 Timothy 2:11-12. A third objection is that Paul is only referring to husbands and wives, not men and women in general. The Greek words for “woman” and “man” in 1 Timothy 2 could refer to husbands and wives; however, the basic meaning of the words is broader than that. Further, the same Greek words are used in verses 8-10. Are only husbands to lift up holy hands in prayer without anger and disputing (verse 8)? Are only wives to dress modestly, have good deeds, and worship God (verses 9-10)? Of course not. Verses 8-10 clearly refer to all men and women, not just husbands and wives. There is nothing in the context that would indicate a narrowing to husbands and wives in verses 11-14. Yet another objection to this interpretation of women in pastoral ministry references women in positions of leadership in the Bible, specifically Miriam, Deborah, and Huldah in the Old Testament. It is true that these women were chosen by God for special service to Him and that they stand as models of faith, courage, and, yes, leadership. However, the authority of women in the Old Testament is not relevant to the issue of pastors in the church. The New Testament Epistles present a new paradigm for God’s people-the church, the body of Christ-and that paradigm involves an authority structure unique to the church, not for the nation of Israel or any other Old Testament entity. Similar arguments are made using Priscilla and Phoebe in the New Testament. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila are presented as faithful ministers for Christ. In verse 18, Priscilla’s name is mentioned first, suggesting to some that she was more prominent in ministry than her husband. (The detail of whose name comes first is probably inconsequential, because in verses 2 and 26 the order is reversed from that of verse 18.) Did Priscilla and her husband teach the gospel of Jesus Christ to Apollos? Yes, in their home they “explained to him the way of God more adequately” (Acts 18:26). Does the Bible ever say that Priscilla pastored a church or taught publicly or became the spiritual leader of a congregation of saints? No. As far as we know, Priscilla was not involved in ministry activity in contradiction to 1 Timothy 2:11-14. In Romans 16:1, Phoebe is called a “deacon” (or “servant”) in the church and is highly commended by Paul. But, as with Priscilla, there is nothing in Scripture to indicate that Phoebe was a pastor or a teacher of men in the church. “Able to teach” is given as a qualification for elders, but not for deacons (1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:6-9). The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11-14 makes the reason why women cannot be pastors perfectly clear. Verse 13 begins with “for,” giving the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses 11-12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because “Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived” (verses 13-14). God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. The order of creation has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22-33) and in the church. The fact that Eve was deceived is also given as a reason for women not serving as pastors or having spiritual authority over men (1 Timothy 2:14). This does not mean that women are gullible or that they are all more easily deceived than men. If all women are more easily deceived, why would they be allowed to teach children (who are easily deceived) and other women (who are supposedly more easily deceived)? The text simply says that women are not to teach men or have spiritual authority over men because Eve was deceived. God has chosen to give men the primary teaching authority in the church. Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism, and helping/serving. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women. Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; 1 Peter 3:15). God has ordained that only men are to serve in positions of spiritual teaching authority in the church. This does not imply men are better teachers or that women are inferior or less intelligent. It is simply the way God designed the church to function. Men are to set the example in spiritual leadership-in their lives and through their words. Women are also to set an example in their lives, but in a different way (1 Peter 3:1-6). Women are encouraged to teach other women (Titus 2:3-5). The Bible also does not restrict women from teaching children. The only activity women are restricted from is teaching or having spiritual authority over men. This bars women from serving as pastors to men. This does not make women less important, by any means; rather, it gives them a ministry focus more in agreement with God’s design.

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"the now word of God" what on earth does he mean by this?

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Why find a reason to add new lyrics? Easier to understand newer English? You could have changed the tune as well and called it some other title. I don’t get it.

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The great thing about being a Christian is that God doesn't particularly care about the colour of one's skin or one's cultural background as we are all his creation, he cares about our heart and our commitment to Christ. Ultimately Christianity is counter cultural, it unites us through Christ regardless of one's cultural background.

Great sermon, a message well overdue, thank you Mark.

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Looks like it for us too - such a beautiful start!

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OMG, I know Dan!

I really enjoyed Caitlyns message tonight It made me feel like a better person