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Project Grassroots
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Добавлен 27 фев 2012
I luv racing, do you luv racing too??? 🥺
Grip vs Drift: The Great Motorsport Divide
My goal is to get people into performance driving, regardless of your budget, I don't care what kind. Here are some links to get searching for local events (not sponsored):
hpdejunkie.com/
www.motorsportreg.com/
Also these blogs are based af:
nomoneymotorsports.com/
occamsracers.com/
Videos referenced:
Chelsea Denofa Interview: ruclips.net/video/HMb54Nm-HVs/видео.html
Eletor (makes breathtaking drift videos): ruclips.net/video/UNdQsRCFJjA/видео.html
Kevin O'Connell | 500hp SR20 In Car Camera with Pedal Cam: ruclips.net/video/7gp6gPStVW4/видео.html
Porsche GT4RS Track Day: COTA: ruclips.net/video/JZkmsC0bqsQ/видео.html
The Driving Line at Club Motorsports: ruclips.net/video/IzQwDx2Vtxc/видео.html
Toug...
hpdejunkie.com/
www.motorsportreg.com/
Also these blogs are based af:
nomoneymotorsports.com/
occamsracers.com/
Videos referenced:
Chelsea Denofa Interview: ruclips.net/video/HMb54Nm-HVs/видео.html
Eletor (makes breathtaking drift videos): ruclips.net/video/UNdQsRCFJjA/видео.html
Kevin O'Connell | 500hp SR20 In Car Camera with Pedal Cam: ruclips.net/video/7gp6gPStVW4/видео.html
Porsche GT4RS Track Day: COTA: ruclips.net/video/JZkmsC0bqsQ/видео.html
The Driving Line at Club Motorsports: ruclips.net/video/IzQwDx2Vtxc/видео.html
Toug...
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A Lap of Canaan Motor Club in an NC2 Miata
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Fastest lap I could get during the day with the tires I had at the time. #miata #trackday
Autocross? Did you mean Rally sir
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Stock NC Miata with Kenda Vezda KR20a front and ECS rears
E30 Control Arm Failure
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E30 control arm subframe ball joint snapped off. Arm was a stock 3yrs old Lemforder control arm with about 11 track days and 20 autocrosses.
Pocono CW Option3 2:11.6 (SCCA TNTT Tuner 5 first class record)
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Car: E30 w/ stock M20B25, GC coilovers, front/rear sway bars, 245/40/15 Falken RT660's Song: Fancy Footwork (Guns 'n' Bombs Remix)
The MUSIC (5th/46 raw time, 6th PAX)
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The MUSIC (5th/46 raw time, 6th PAX)
Yeah people that drive fast on the streets on morons
good, VERY good
As a track enjoyer, I tried a drifting session and I found that I absolutely hated it. The depth to which I hated it was honestly surprising, even to myself. I don't like how the car controls when drifting, it's not fast around a track, and I don't find it cool. I don't hate drifters, I just hate drifting myself. But, I think it's just a matter of preference, if you just wanna go fast, track is where you enjoy that, if you want to feel cool and show off a bit, drifting is where you go. Driving fast feels much more of a solo or competitive endeavour, but drifting feels more like a "bro check me out" kind of thing. Maybe that's why people doing autocross/track days don't really care about sharing on the internet, it's just about your time on the stopwatch. Whereas drift is more like a dance where your performance is judged by others, and that brings its own culture of sharing and watching.
For drifting it looks cool and fun. Also it migth be due to anime partially. I mean honestly as a normal consumer what would you rather watch? An MMA match where they beating the crap out of each other or a BJJ match where in the fist 20 minutes spent with looking at each other intensely? People want to see exciting stuff.
This is an excellent video. As a member, driver, instructor, and time trial competitor of my local SCCA region we are actively trying to bring in younger generations to keep the sport alive. I think the reason behind the lack of track day “vlog” style videos is simply the sheer amount of time spent in classroom and in car. It’s not as easy to chop videos up and most novice and intermediate drivers videos aren’t dramatic enough to warrant upload to the internet. Drifting is probably my most favorite Motorsport to watch. It’s microdosing the action just like skipping to the end of a spec Miata or nascar race where drivers are sending it for the last push - but you’ve waited 20 minutes or 6 hours to get to that excitement. Being at events and competing in front of crowds like gridlife festivals it’s clear that most if not all of those spectators are there for the drifting. Yes the twin turbo corvettes in time attack are cool but they don’t go sideways and tap bumpers and produce smoke like the drift cars. Thanks for the content. I really hope to see more of this (30 year old and feel like a boomer around drift kids)
Man that was interesting. Points that are not being made elsewhere.
A really nice video, keep up, I'm following you
What we need is a fully Grassroots Motorsports movement. Spec racing with a very low barrier to entry. I'm talking Stock Engine with cooling mods and better tires. Full contact close racing. Can probably do a Power to Weight formula to keep it competitive.
Really good video, happy this came up in my recommended! Looks like you and I are fairly local and will cross paths at some point as well. I think your point about community hubs is a huge one. Drifting has social media as a home, while track/autocross have very little than themselves.
I love that I found this video! The last year has been my first full year in Autox and I absolutely loved it! Took first place in my stock fiesta st in H street. But trying to convince my friends or anyone I really know to go along with me and just "try it" is more difficult than if I were to ask them to take the SAT's for fun. Love to see another RUclipsr showing off autox and why it is so great. Ive learned so much about my driving and my car by the end of the season. And now im building a NA Miata for next year. Cheers 🥂
Drifting is fun. Autocross is not*. Young folks want to have fun. Drifting is cool, its loose, and its wild. Its a great way to show off. The skateboarding analogy is perfect. *AutoX is fun, but not like drifting is fun. Its so type A. Sort fun in the same way golfing is fun.
one thing I feel contributes is the fact that drifting has more going on, at least if you're filming it. There's the engine noises, tire squeal, and all this other stuff that make it succeed on social media a lot better than autocross or track events.
This vid is a culture shock to me because track/road racing is alive and well with the young crowd down here where I’m at
Great video! I did autocross for a few years but stopped after literally just attending a drift event like 7 years ago. Something about the style and the comradery at the drift event was something I'd never found at autox. Before I even had a car that I could feasibly drift, I shot photography at the local events for years just to be around that scene. I'm building a grip based, supercharged Miata and I have no intentions of doing any track days with it and I feel like that speaks volumes about the state of grip driving events today.
So basically you think that what makes a sport grow ou make it healthy are RUclips views 🤷🏻♂️
Well I got into cars because of movies like Tokyo Drift and games like Underground 2 and track driving bc of prostreet and assetto corsa. I think almost every single person my age had a similar experience. Adam LZ and G&G absolutely helped get more people into drifting and track days respectively, media has power.
Drifting looks faster on camera even though it's not about speed🤷
Agree, great vid BTW. I do track days where I drift once I am done lapping as the tires are shot and it always is somewhat frowned upon. Dedicated drift events in Austria are few and far between
As someone who does both drifting and road course track days, street takeovers and street "drifting" is almost certainly why it has a bad rep. I get asked all the time to clarify what drifting even is by friends and family who are ignorant on the subject-- their first assumption is the dickwads in intersections on the news. They're always pleasantly surprised when they learn what it actually is. Also drifting tears up concrete, which is expensive af, and just another reason larger tracks don't want it (track maintenance is costly enough).
Having spoken to a few drift track owners, I've learned that drifting damage to asphalt is mostly a myth. A few track managers I know used to have reservations about drifters until they were convinced otherwise after going to a drift event and examining the asphalt. However, overheating the surface with a standing burnout is still a risk
Early 30s. Love both, can afford neither. God speed and good luck.
Track days are cheaper than you think, check the links above and get the cheapest miata you can buy. Buy the cheapest tires that survive track abuse (Kenda KR20a is like $100 a tire and CRAZY durable), fix it up w/ fresh fluids/pads, and RESIST upgrading
Same… so sim racing it is for me 😂
Great video. I think you’re right that marketing and social media are the biggest differentiators between drifting and grip driving awareness. I’m 24 and I’ve been doing rallyx/autox/track days with the SCCA since I was a teenager. I’ve watched drifting blow up in the last 10 years and it’s all because of the entertainment value and the media it creates. When I tell people about racing they almost never know what the SCCA is or that there are racetracks nearby. However in the last few years I have noticed a larger percentage of newcomers and young people at the events I go to and I’m always happy to see it. Gears & Gasoline has been making super high quality, entertaining track content and I’m sure they’re introducing lots of people to this world. There are a few channels making similar content but we need more. I was particularly surprised to see AdamLZ doing stage rally content, I’m sure that was new to many of his viewers. It’s all positive, the more people get into it, the more funding events will get, which will make them more accessible for everyone. My algorithm gives me track day/amateur w2w reels and it gives me hope!!
I met g&g at VIR, they're great!
The biggest enemy of autox is the SCCA. They have no idea on how to market it. And lets be honest, driving around cones in a parking lot is a lot harder to make look cool than drifting. The huge rulebook doesn't help or the poor seat time ratio. For hpde I think its more that it's so fractured. There are probably at least a dozen orgs in my area running events at the same tracks. However there is no effort to work together to advertise as a whole and so there isn't a lot of reach. Also a lot of the track guys come from road racing and can be fuds about safety stuff. I know the clubs with less regulations around me skew a lot younger (and tend to be scarier on track). I think there is just a much less risk adverse culture in drifting. I always think the biggest hurdle is just convincing someone the first time to go out on track. Social media is really your key marketing there.
What's weird to me is that the track day events and drivers definitely exist, but there's a massive inability for most of these people to market themselves and create content to get newcomers hyped. When I go to a local car meet, everyone and their mother knows what an angle kit is, but nobody knows what a 200tw tire is. It sucks so bad
@@ProjGR Creating content is weird. As a driver I most want to have a record on my person bests. However that magical lap often isn't super interesting to watch unless you're already a hpde driver looking for lines. "Track battles" is what I think the average person wants to see, but I think those are a bit harder to produce. The most interesting footage is when people have mixed in and out of car footage. That's super hard to do without a crew, and sometimes impossible depending on layout. I've tried cutting together some passing videos, but following someone for half a lap waiting for a point-by isn't exactly interesting video. I should probably start trying an audio overlay with commentary on what is going on. I know a few channels I've watched do that and it makes what is happening a lot more understandable.
Track days gotta have an average age of 55 fr fr
Almost? Roflmao, 100% differently
Tracks are way more smoother and you can go faster on corners
Looks like fun on the one side, but hell for the suspension POV 😅
Ultra committed driving, entertaining to watch. But try to relax your hands a little…very nervous…and try to keep your hands always at the same position, usually you do not need to move your hands away from the left and right position (except the rear comes out 😬) Sorry, I know, nobody asked, it just caught my eyes. 🤗✌️
I both ski and track my car often and you would be surprised how similar some aspects of both sports are.
Schleeeeeep eangle
Song choice insanely prime. Content is fire bro keep it up!
song? i guessing its daytona usa soundtrack
@@daysandx Mario Kart Wii Menu I believe, right @limitedadhesion ?
Hell yeah! The flow, weightlessness, it's awesome
On the road I don’t want to risk spinning out because I’m bombing into a corner you have to be respectful and that’s means not pushing the car
Nah, late night factory area drift sessions are the best... To be fair, those who do a lot of illegal high level street drifting are just as good driver's as most track racers/drifters. There's a time and a place to practice driving like that on the street, only the very best are good enough to do it amongst traffic and maintain their drift within the boundaries of their lane in traffic
I agree for drifting, but for road racing I've never met a street racer that was even close to a wheel to wheel track racer. As much as I love drifting, dancing at and around the limit is much riskier on the street than drifting.
Nah, you are wrong. Street racers will be never be as fast as track guys, it`s a fact.
@@ProjGRWell, you can definetly learn the limit of your car on the streets. Look at rally racers, most if not all of them learned how to push a car on open roads. Then again i won't refute the fact that it's riskier, but it's also a lot less expensive :p
@@_psyko905I agree, much safer to play with slip on loose ground, but I'm specifically taking about asphalt. I love winter rally 🤟
@@ProjGR you know that rally also takes place on public (asphalt) roads right ?
There was one street driver we saw get exposed this year, and that's Logan Sargeant 😂😂😂..we saw through Ken Block for the untalented hack he was years ago. An influencer pretending to be a driver. The same way KSI and Jake Paul pretend to be boxers.
I’ve never heard anyone trash Ken before. Interesting. 🤔
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That track is gross.
better than some pristine track that's not affordable
Wow that steering rack seems like it's got a really low ratio. Is that normal???
Wide fov makes the corners look larger, the ratio is pretty good actually, 900deg lock to lock
😢
All gears broke over 1 shift?
Yup, def somehow broke the whole selector assembly
crazy ja, the clutch is the 3rd pedal. And this isnt a sequential 🗿
I gotta remember that, left foot was still using the brake pedal 😭
I need an ID on this song! Sick edit though ✨ found via Reddit somehow 😅
Look up Good Kid, all their songs are fire 🔥
Holy shit could have been way worse. nice job not packing
Woahhh! What happened???
E30 control arm subframe ball joint snapped off. Arm was a stock 3yrs old Lemforder control arm with about 11 track days and 20 autocrosses.
@@danger_technical oh snap, is that a lot of milage for a 3 yr old part?
Cool, needs to be taller somehow, maybe a flag on a super flexible pylon
Im gonna bring my Ford Raptor One day and annihilate the track record
If they let you run, the only thing that will be annihilated will be your ego.
Also when the heck did you get a Mazda? What car is this??
NC Miata
@@likhitdevabhaktuni9611 ah that's right I remember you mention on discord you got a new car!
What is this genre? Euro Core? Absolute BOP haha
The head bob at the end xD
Stock m20b25? Seems to run well
Hey hey how many runs can u do? Rules on passing? 4hr event...does that mean you have the freedom to enter the track whenever? I just discovered the group and $150 is a steal bro haha
I do love the shot selection too tho!