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I’m sorry to say that you have gravely missed the mark this time, LifeCentral. I am so disappointed by this talk. Rather than actually discuss church hurt for real, you instead talk about something different and you send the wrong message as a result. To summarise, you say that Christians (or is it people in general?) have three issues: 1. An expectation issue, i.e., people are hurt by the church because their expectations too high; 2. An honesty issue, i.e., people are hurt by the church because they aren’t honest with themselves that either they had a part to play in it or that they are immature; 3. A choice issue, i.e., people are only hurt by the church because they haven’t let go of their pain. This is not an exhaustive list of ways in which people can be hurt by the church. But in the context in which it is delivered it sends the message that if you’ve been hurt by the church it’s either a ‘you’ problem, a ‘you’ problem or a ‘you’ problem. I don’t think that’s what you meant to say, but that’s how it comes across. Let me be more precise. For one, consider children who have been sexually abused by people they trusted in their church. Were they hurt because they didn’t expect to be assaulted? In addition, is it not naive and patronising to your congregation to suggest that people are hurt because they are immature, or have inflicted their pain upon themselves? Doesn’t this belittle the pain and suffering that some of your congregants might be going through? When members of my family left their former church community upon discovering financial wrongdoing, were they in the wrong? Were they immature to feel hurt and betrayed by people they trusted? And finally how dare you, how DARE you suggest that people are hurt because they haven’t yet chosen to let go of their pain. Do you think the pain and embarrassment that people feel having been abused, manipulated, bullied or intimidated will simply go away if they want it to? If only life were that simple. To top this all off, you suggest that if I have been hurt by my church, I should seek healing in the church. That to heal my wounds I must not flee from the church but to cleave to it and to seek healing in Jesus. Tell me, LifeCentral, if a domestic abuse victim walked through your doors asking for help, would you tell them not only that they should return to their abuser but also that doing so is the ONLY way that they can be fully healed of their pain and injuries? What a repugnant notion. Churches today are not properly addressing the issue of church hurt. What’s ironic is that LifeCentral didn’t properly address it in this sermon, either. If you have come to this video as someone who has been hurt by the church and are looking for support, you don’t have to do as LifeCentral have said and return to the church to be healed. You have other options: seek help from your closest people and if you need further support, Safe Spaces is a non-judgmental, non-religious charity that deals with religious and spiritual abuse. Their link is below. It is no sin to look after your own wellbeing. Nor is it a sin to look for support from outside of your church. safespacesenglandandwales.org.uk/who-we-can-help/#:~:text=Safe%20Spaces%20is%20a%20free,or%20the%20Church%20in%20Wales.

That was soooo hard for Leon!! You could tell!! Loved the strict looks from Allison!

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Hahahaha 😮 the first Christmas where Leon plays the keyboard ‘gently’ lol 😜 epic ;) Looking forward to it and thank you for all the hard work which goes in :) Always so amazing time thank you :)

You can love them without condoning or accepting their ideologies or life choices. Loving someone doesnt mean you have to put up with their bullshit.

What was the last song of the service

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i tend to compare myself now with my younger self and feel a bit of a failure- need to stop this!

Really great message, Jayne, thank you. Can you recommend any books that tackle this comparison/gratitude challenge?

excited for Christmas! ❤

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"God is working in that no." I love that!!!

So inspirational!!

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So sorry I missed this service as I was working, Happy Birthday LifeCentral, See you next week, God Bless

Epic service!!

So thankful to be part of this. As a shift worker the online service is a GODSEND 😮 I can be part of the church all the time :). It’s a privilege to serve here. Thank you 🙏

Happy Birthday Lifecentral, may there be many more. God bless

Happy 45th birthday Lifecentral Church. God bless you all. Thank you for turning my life around. I would never be without you now! Everyday. I thank God for bringing me to you 🙏❤️x

Happy birthday Lifecentral! ❤

Thank you life central :) stuck at home with cold/flu but watching online :)

Enjoy the celebrations. Thankful for your church in so many ways! Must add the 45! Amazing. May all be blessed today and in the days, months, years and beyond ahead x

OK. You reap what you sow? If you want bananas, you sow bananas. If you sow smiles, you reap smiles. However, If you sow money you you don't reap money? Really? Why not? Why does this 'universal law' suddenly change when pounds, shillings and pence are involved? How can this 'law' change if it is hard-wired into creation? Please explain as I think I am missing something.

Also what do we do if we feel God has told us to work to expose the problems in our previous church. We believe God has laid it on our hearts to bring this into the open so that no other people get hurt. How can we do this?

Praise God that even though we were desperately hurt by church leaders, we have still kept our faith. There are churches where Jesus will put you, so you can heal, serve and continue to praise our wonderful God.

Really good point about the end times & not to obsess about when it happens. Thank you for another great teaching.

Church is family

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I grew up in the black country,then I was influenced by the world, no role model did I see, I praise God for the vision of the church handed down by the Father.

Thank you For sharing this testimony. So good to hear. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

The depth of truth in this song made me cry gutteral tears!!

wow Andy and Gareth!! Fantastic service it really spoke to me and what a pair of talented pastors you are!🙏🙏❤