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Interesting, although I know I said that I used a steel core for this stick... it isn't supposed to have one. It's just a stick made from wood. I didn't have any wood available for the size I needed, and this was a test piece, so I stuck it together with the steel bar to give it some strength. There are so many interesting weapons out there and I'm sure there are some fantastic variations of steel infused sticks. This one is just a stick... or at least it should be.

@@borgiskhan Regarding the argument Bagua and Xing Yi then a flexible core would make no sense. These arts seek for weapons that exploit the force of linear or straight impact to heighten the force, thats why ba gua has the giant dao or xing yi the needles. If the design were meant for these then it would be left one piece hollowed in the middle which would be filled with a heavy oil or steel balls or something like that to shift the point of balance in favor for the hit.

@@borgiskhan Regarding the square design, lets say flexible is relative, if you look at the Mozo Bamboo spears that were used for war, they are just flexible in so far that they are able to absorb or transfer. The tip moves this way at best max. 5 inch. Really flexible weapons like a jian that is able to bend 90 to 180° would be no shaolin anymore rather a wudang thing.

@@borgiskhan Have a look at Why Japanese Longbows Are So Expensive for an example for flexible but still rigid.

@@borgiskhan The spears are made from an similiar concept thats why Wax Wood Spear (Qian) are used.

This was made from Master Lu Jun Hai's specifications, (he literally drew it and gave me the measurements), he's been training in Mizong for nearly 80 years, (I've trained directly under him for over 25 years) and he was happy with it. The stick is square so there's no way it could be flexible. I'm sure there are many variations of gun from different lineages, we have a few of different lengths in ours and to be fair some weapons are lost to time. I know that Master Lu's father used to share techniques with Jiang Rong Qiao who was more well known for his Bagua and Xing Yi, so if it was the same type of stick, I'm sure we would know.

@@borgiskhan As long as you are happy with it its fine, just wanted to point cause the design of useless sections would this way make more sense too. Although hope you are not going with this all knowing master stuff etc. cause most chinese sources regard themselves that they just have fragments left cause of so many people dying in battle, prisons etc.

Thank you

No, the Wikipedia page is pretty poor in its information and focuses more on Mizong Luohan than Mizong quan. Now I think some Xing Yi systems may use a Mizong Quan taolu or 2 but not the full Mizong system which is quite extensive. Chinese martial artists were known for sharing techniques and taolu as my instructor and his father did. These websites have much better information if you want to find out about Mizong/Yanqing: mizongkungfuandtaichi.weebly.com/mizong-kung-fu.html or taipinginstitute.com/yanqingmen-%e7%87%95%e9%9d%92%e9%97%a8/

Spending your entire life as a peasant out working the rice fields in the sun all day will do that lol

Indeed, 2 persons sets are a very good midway point between single person taolu and sparring, as you said they can teach the body mechanics and flow between techniques in a controlled way, and I believe this is the main focus. But they can also be trained and performed in different ways depending on what outcome you are looking for at the time. The difference between a performance for display and studying the effectiveness and failure points of techniques looks very different. Our Yanqing jia is a similar case where it can last from 25 minutes to over and hour depending on what your training focus is at the time.

Pilgrimmage to Miao Feng Shan Filmed in 1927 at the Miao Feng Shan 妙峰山 temple spring festival about 35 miles West of Beijing.

I didn't get the name of the taolu but you're right it is a Cha quan taolu from Lu family Mizong quan performed by Wang Chunhua.

His performance is great. It looks like two forms together becouse secont half of his form is copletely different than original wu lu chaquan. I like it👍

Our Mizong Quan form is indeed fairly long, although our version doesn't include any ditang quan, (a shame because I enjoy ditang quan). We don't have any videos of the form that I'm allowed to show at the moment, although at some point I may be able to share some snippets of a modern practitioner performing it.

It can be mistaken for that I'm afraid. I've uploaded a few videos explaining some of the movements, to try and help with understanding what's happening in the taolu: ruclips.net/video/raLV7pkd24c/видео.html

No need to be sorry, I know the movements of Mizong are particularly difficult to get right, especially when done backwards. Do you know the form? Who did you learn it from?

@@borgiskhan Yes, I know the form ,as I said I appreciate the effort you put in it ,but the truth is that you do not have the body for the refine movements of Chinese Gong Fu-Wushu in the same way as a average Chinese hasn't got the body for a NBA player ,it just a fact , please do not get offended in isn't meant that way ,personally I think with your strong body you'll be more suitable for the Japanese Kyokushinkaikan Karate-do....

@@malianwong I'm not offended and you're correct, my physique and movements are far more suited to muay thai and sport fighting, which I did previously. I took on Mizong because my instructor was an incredible martial artist, and I knew it would push me. I agree that westerners have a hard time replicating what seems to come easy to someone that is Chinese. I'm very interested that you know the form and would guess you're from the same lineage as me, I'd love to know who you learnt it from?

That depends on what you consider real Kung Fu. Is real Kung Fu performance-based, or is it actual fighting? This video was a demonstration video, a performance. An actual fight would not involve most of what you saw here.

It can be mistaken for that I'm afraid. I've uploaded a few videos explaining some of the movements, to try and help with understanding what's happening in the taolu: ruclips.net/video/raLV7pkd24c/видео.html

Thank you

An extract from our website may explain it "It is often claimed that Mizong may date back as far as the Tang dynasty. Some say it was created in the Shaolin Temple by a monk named Lu Junyi who fused Shaolin techniques with neigong. This master is said to have become famous both for his skills and for his unwillingness to take on students. The legend says that a young man called Yan Qing joined his household as a servant and spied on Lu while he was practising, secretly studying and copying him. One day while working in the fields, Yan Qing was forced to defend himself and the other servants when they were attacked by bandits. His secret was out, but rather than scold him Lu Junyi rewarded him by taking him as his sole disciple and training him properly. Yan Qing eventually took many followers himself, which they called Yanqing Quan in his honour, but were forced to change the name to Mizong Quan or “secret sect boxing” when they considered that both he and Lu Junyi were hiding from the authorities at the famous Water Margin bandit hideout of Lian Shang. Whilst hiding there he is said to have once evaded capture by leading the government troops who pursued him through a confusing maze of false trails. This is why one branch of the family writes the art in the characters Mizong Yi, or the “art of lost track”. This name is also often offered as being an allusion to the footwork in Mizong, which is deliberately deceptive." mizongkungfuandtaichi.weebly.com/mizong-kung-fu.html

I've read this legend before. Lu Junyi is a fictional character from the novel "Water Margin". I guess the real historical reason for the name is lost to time.@@borgiskhan

Unfortunately, there is so much that is lost. We can only go back as far as Sun Tong historically, and even his story, ending up in the Shaolin monastery, sounds very similar to many martial stories, so how true it is, is anybody's guess. The Taiping institute is a great site for information taipinginstitute.com/yanqingmen-%e7%87%95%e9%9d%92%e9%97%a8/ @@zetareticulan321

Thanks!@@borgiskhan

Different lineage, but the same style, yes.

The fist of fury! 😄

The True Soul of Kung Fu is really very simple; it is just Exercise....Keeping Fit n' healthy.....in Both Body n' Mind..... Not to be taken that seriously really; Wonderful to even glimpse such rare footage, even survive;.....thx. for Posting...... And; other members of my Brethren; would also; love to see the Eons. of Horticulturalists in China Showing-Off more of it's Hybridized Flora and Fauna.......(Like the Closing Footage of this Snippet!) One; day we will go Toe-To-Toe with the likes of:- Kew Gardens, Richmond London. and Hyde Hall, Rettendon, Essex. U should also see; how we have advanced in Wine Making! (And before U ask; I donot dump Coke in Mine!)

and boy did they get fucked up.