Saint Taw
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St Taw. A Tool Changing 3D Printer Part 2
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A 3D Tool Changing printer called ‘St Taw’. Part 2. This shows 4 Heads now have been made. Three using extruders via Bowden cables. One using direct drive. Started cabinet enclosure. Control Panel added. Lighting added.
St Taw. A Tool Changing 3D Printer
Просмотров 16 тыс.5 лет назад
A 3D Tool Changing printer called ‘St Taw’. Inspired by seeing E3D Tool Changer at TCT show in 2018. No open source plans available so all designed from scratch. Major differences include increased build volume, different Z axis arrangement. Work in progress...

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  • @rolandm.9656
    @rolandm.9656 2 месяца назад

    Hi! I'm planning to make a similar stairs. What kind of hinges did you use? How are they placed? Would be awesome to know 🤔

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 2 месяца назад

      They are heavy duty, steel, 100mm (4") door hinges. I used 3 off. They are mounted flush on the ceiling side with extra long screws. Convered with wood trim to be flush with plasterboard.

    • @rolandm.9656
      @rolandm.9656 2 месяца назад

      @@sainttaw2616 Thank you!

  • @rickalisvir
    @rickalisvir 7 месяцев назад

    Genius🎉

  • @KodyKimani
    @KodyKimani Год назад

    Absolutely fab!

  • @NerferCo
    @NerferCo Год назад

    What material are you using for the heated bed insulation? This is one of the first homebuilt designs I've seen that actually uses the manufacturer-recommended heater pad retention assembly. Great stuff!

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 Год назад

      The self adhesive 240v self adhesive silicon heat pad is insulated by a 10mm thick Cork floor tile. This is then retained by an aluminium plate. Has worked now for over 3 years without problems.

  • @NerferCo
    @NerferCo Год назад

    Beautiful design! What thickness of spring steel are you using for the toolhead cable guides? I'm trying to source some and need to figure out what will give the right amount of flex. (Also, what kind of paint? Curious if basic hardware-store enamel will hold up.)

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 Год назад

      I used the steel from a dewalt dw100 bandsaw fine tooth blade. I ground off the teeth. The width was then 6.7mm wide. The manufacturing thickness is stated as 0.14" or 0.36mm. I have measure mine as 0.47mm painted. I used car enamel paint. No cracking experienced.

  • @Youarenotme3182
    @Youarenotme3182 2 года назад

    Watts alledgedly

  • @Macwolf3
    @Macwolf3 2 года назад

    fine machine, I'm also building a tool changer, direct drive with Sherpa Mini, and 3 Z belt drives. you were one of the inspirers.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 2 года назад

      Thanks for that. The Z axis has been very stable. No need to keep Z plane mapping. Impressed by the up coming Prusa XL machine how it locks the head using the XY motion. Saves a motor and cabling.

  • @marcbrann
    @marcbrann 3 года назад

    Nice work, tool changer creme de la creme in 3d printing. So what tools are you planing for? ;-)

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 3 года назад

    You can just use a microswitch for proving so xe your carriage without tools is shorter than the tools

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 3 года назад

    How did you make a t shaped thingi that goes into the torque thingi. What is it called? I've been trying so many ideas on making on but the are all bulky due the 3d printed nature.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 3 года назад

      Its a piece of tool steel, cross drilled with a thinner piece of tool steel. I would call it the key. The lock receiver is machined on a milling machine.

  • @chuck7873
    @chuck7873 4 года назад

    Why not share it ? I don't understand, if it's just "showing off" that's sad.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 3 года назад

      It's just sharing ideas. I think anyone going to the trouble of making such a thing will have their own ideas.

    • @marcbrann
      @marcbrann 3 года назад

      @@sainttaw2616 nice.. :-) Amazing design you did there. I would build one myself but i dont have time right now. Three ball screws, six rails and a lot of custom work I see, not to mention duet mobo combo. BTW did you cut your bed from the top plate?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 3 года назад

      @@marcbrann Yes the bed was from top plate material

    • @marcbrann
      @marcbrann 3 года назад

      @@sainttaw2616 and thats how it suposed to be done :-). I like designs like this. Well thought out.

  • @wingbats
    @wingbats 4 года назад

    How thick is the tooling plate you used for the XY platform and how did you opt to have it cut? Plasma?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 Год назад

      6mm Ground Aluminium plate. Cut on my sons home made CNC machine using end mill.

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 4 года назад

    Servos Wear out very fast afaik

  • @severpop8699
    @severpop8699 4 года назад

    grabcad.com/groups/3d-printers-makers-diy-hacks-solutions-and-post-printing-tools/discussions/well-boys-and-girls-e3d-got-cloned-in-the-kitchen

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 4 года назад

    I'm so jealous! personally i'm working on a magnetic tool changer :3 It works surprisngly well so far without the tool changes ofc xD but i picked it up and put it back a few times by hand and it worked ok

  • @WarThunderGerald
    @WarThunderGerald 4 года назад

    Any chance to help share the duet config files for others trying to begin learning how to get tool changers working? :(

  • @r00yce
    @r00yce 5 лет назад

    Really lots of thoughts and skills went into this printer. Well done!

  • @PiefacePete46
    @PiefacePete46 5 лет назад

    There is some beautiful detail in your printer, thanks for sharing it. Liked and subscribed.

    • @HDFoxra
      @HDFoxra 5 лет назад

      Not 'his' printer... its E3D's...

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 5 лет назад

      @@HDFoxra : My car might have been designed by Ford, but it is still my car. I can only comment on what is shown in the video, and I liked a lot of what I saw. I am here for the enjoyment and inspiration I get from RUclips, not to enter into someone else's bunfight.

  • @jamieclarke321
    @jamieclarke321 5 лет назад

    Enclosed Core XY, E3D tool changer and zesty nimble has to be the future of 3D printing. Check out the kinematically mounted bed used on the jubilee 3D printer

  • @StangspringDK
    @StangspringDK 5 лет назад

    Awesome. Simply awesome. I also tried replicating the E3D printer, but not with Duet and toolchange. Just loved the design and wanted a super stable CoreXY. Video on my channel.

  • @wordedon
    @wordedon 5 лет назад

    Hi, big fan of your design !! I have to ask you as I have not in the past and didn’t think about the consequences from other people. I shared your first video in a playlist I made, and also share it to a group on Facebook. I just want to make sure you are alright with that. The Facebook group is called “tool changing 3D printers” and we would love to have you there !

    • @wordedon
      @wordedon 5 лет назад

      If this is not alright, I will remove your first video now and not share the second one. I’ll wait to hear from you

    • @vivianwatts9863
      @vivianwatts9863 5 лет назад

      I have no problem with that. For me this is what its all about sharing ideas.

    • @wordedon
      @wordedon 5 лет назад

      @@vivianwatts9863 thank you very much mate !!

    • @wordedon
      @wordedon 5 лет назад

      @@vivianwatts9863 I'm all about open source and the operate on the same logic you do. The tool changing 3d printer group on Facebook is really cool actually, there are a bunch of us all sharing ideas together on open source designs ! Lots of fun and I'm sure youd enjoy it !

    • @wordedon
      @wordedon 5 лет назад

      @@vivianwatts9863 facebook.com/groups/237615240416855/

  • @SebastienChedalBornu
    @SebastienChedalBornu 5 лет назад

    really cool, so what is the wheight of one head (with or without e3d v6 ) ??? with the zesti you will gain in weight but retraction is a nightmare jsute like bowden because of the gear ratio which means same ratio X reaction. what is your printing volume ? and speed with direct drive ? so you still do not want to release your files for the tool changer ??? but congrats you made a very very clean job.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The difference between the Bowden head and the direct drive head is the additional weight of the E3D extruder plus the stepper motor. The Zesty Nimble will replace both of these. So I believe the weight will only be a little more than the Bowden head. Note sure why retraction will be a nightmare? Is it because the nimble motor needs to run 10 times faster? The bowden tube build up is reduced. Anyway i'll let you know the progress. Print volume is about a 300mm cube as shown in first video. Most of my drawings are in 2D and not complete or modified. The CNC files are adapted for my machine and tools. As I have said before I would recommend the E3D heads as better support when available. However the chassis drawings may be of interest and I will try and tidy them up and release in future.

    • @tortureme666
      @tortureme666 5 лет назад

      Saint Taw Hey I’m very impressed by your tool changer system and printer. Very cool about the Oragami metal work. I just thought I’d leave you a comment and say it’s bloody awesome fair play it’s amazing

    • @SebastienChedalBornu
      @SebastienChedalBornu 5 лет назад

      @@sainttaw2616 no problem, and 2d drawings are good, I just build a cnc to build my futur next printer with a tool changer. And I can't wait to mill the same kind of x gantry as e3d (the new version in aluminum)

  • @JasonZnack
    @JasonZnack 5 лет назад

    Amazing printer. Very well done.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      That was quick! Thanks.

    • @JasonZnack
      @JasonZnack 5 лет назад

      @@sainttaw2616 I'm subscribed. Can't wait to see more. Came from the Duet Forums. Hope to see a full write up.

    • @HDFoxra
      @HDFoxra 5 лет назад

      That's not 'his' printer... that was designed by E3D. All he did was cut some acrylic for slots that allowed his 'external' stuff passage. . . Also weird that he made his own tool head, as the ones provided by E3D with that printer are pretty darn good...

  • @daviddepuy9843
    @daviddepuy9843 5 лет назад

    I already own a cnc router. I'm just getting back into 3d printing. Took a break because of cnc work. I to will probably venture into combining both machines to create a sweet one like you have shown. I already have a large frame built with a stationary bed and all axis move, with a top roller section attached to the Z for stability. Very nice printer you've built!

  • @ItisImarko
    @ItisImarko 5 лет назад

    I will to build e3d TC.. With big bed 30cm3.. Many of parts will buy from e3d but I'm worried about software.. How they do it/you do it? And how close to original is your machene.. So i can start prepering (collecting parts)?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The controller is duetwifi. It is fully configurable. I do not believe they have a special version. E3d have not published plans as far as i know. So i don't know how close i am.

    • @ItisImarko
      @ItisImarko 5 лет назад

      @@sainttaw2616 we will see in half a year or more.. And I will slowly collect parts

  • @Boboo5
    @Boboo5 5 лет назад

    Looks promising, nice work!

  • @holomectok256
    @holomectok256 5 лет назад

    really cool work and great that you are using a direct drive instead of a bowden. i have used a dual extruder in the past and given up due to all the ooze issues and i have a removable second extruder which is just mount if it is absolutely necessary to use it. I have seen all these videos on tool changes and there exist 2 approaches . 1 : to use a magnetic (or electromagnetic mount ) and 2 is to use a kinematic mount. But no one have actually done a comparison to see which is a better approach . The magnetic one is much simpler to execute but i am not sure y is e3d perusing a kinematic joint ? is there a more advantage to this overengineering or a magnetic joint would suffice for normal mortals?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The kinamatic mount is really the way it is located to ensure repeatable xyz location. The method of securing it could be magnetic or mechanical. So you could have a magnetic kinamatic mount. The mechanical key method probably provides a greater securing force. I have had two extruders running. A bowden and direct drive. The bowden using e3d components required a retract of 4mm. The direct drive i am able to get away with 1mm retract. However the direct drive is much more heavy and feels top heavy. I am waiting for components to try a Zesty Nimble remote drive extruder. This may be the best of both worlds. Hope to provide an update video soon.

  • @SebastienChedalBornu
    @SebastienChedalBornu 5 лет назад

    can't wait for part 2

  • @techtiptricks
    @techtiptricks 5 лет назад

    3D Print enthusiasts think everything is free they yell "Stl's"

  • @TiBenLaMachine
    @TiBenLaMachine 5 лет назад

    Very well done... I see many have asked all-ready to have access to your design plans, I am working on many models myself, and I would really like to try your build version. TX

  • @user-mu1tc2ls6e
    @user-mu1tc2ls6e 5 лет назад

    where did you buy this knupling parts

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The are all made by me.

    • @user-mu1tc2ls6e
      @user-mu1tc2ls6e 5 лет назад

      Did you assamble how do you fix them in place and where did you buy this small ball

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The metal is machined to have a recess and the ball is then a pressed fit. It is also glued in with expoxy resin. They are ball bearings I had which are 4.7mm diameter.

  • @tomaszjarysz2822
    @tomaszjarysz2822 5 лет назад

    Please share your plans, I would like to build such a printer. Why should I waste my time at the computer when you've done such a good job? Your design is perfect.

    • @marcbrann
      @marcbrann 3 года назад

      I think it would take me more time to compile software than to design the machine. His design is served in front of you.

  • @faxxzc
    @faxxzc 5 лет назад

    Another question, why did you move the front two ballscrews so far away from the front of the machine? seems like a lot of wasted bed space

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      The pulleys under the base are about 16mm from front edge. The sides and base edge covers will be 5 or 6mm plastic. So there will be a 10mm clearance . So yes they could have moved forward but only by about 5mm.

  • @faxxzc
    @faxxzc 5 лет назад

    Don´t get me wrong, i like your design, it is Really nice, But this is what e3d wanted to avoid, having another 5 million standards that are very similar. If you´re going to open source it, it will just create confusion. BUT. If i would build my own, i would make it similar to yours, with just the toolchanger heads from e3d.Yours is superior in many ways, for example the 3 linear rails for Z and the closed frame up top.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      I agree. I am no advocating my design of tool changer over theirs. I guess the design of the frame, bed an Z axis may be of interest. I also have a direct drive head in prototype. I expect they are working on one also but have not seen any details.

    • @mhe0815
      @mhe0815 5 лет назад

      @@sainttaw2616 E3D showed a concept drawing of a direct drive toolhead during Sanjay's talk about the toolchanger last year. Iirc it had a smaller motor just to assist the main motor for flexible filaments.

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      It will be interesting how that performs. If they don't extrude at the same rate due to slip or slightly different diameter hobs you could imagine some tension or compression building up in the bowden tube. If they have to be calibrated thats added complexity. Still if the head hob was smooth or rubber this might resolve that.

    • @GregNuspel
      @GregNuspel 5 лет назад

      I do like the idea of one standard for tool changers, but that would require people to share the design. Until there is a shared standard there will be lots of variations. After all the CNC world is full of standards.

  • @littlehobbyshop
    @littlehobbyshop 5 лет назад

    Nice design, will you be sharing it? Check out Joshua Vasquez channel as well, he's also working on an E3D inspired tool changer.

  • @tomaszbiskup891
    @tomaszbiskup891 5 лет назад

    Nice design. I was thinking about something similar in future but I have some unresolved roadblocks. How do You handle tool changing in duet? As I understand tpreN.g handle taking the tool and tfreeN.g to put it away. But do duet remember witch tool it have after reset or emergency stop? And if not how do you handle to put unknown tool on its resting place?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      This is something I have yet to learn. I currently have user defined macros to load and unload tools. Even then, I have mistakenly unloaded tool 1 into tool 0 slot which was occupied. Sensors in main head could detect which tool it has. Two digital inputs could give binary reading of tool number. Not sure if duet could utilise this though.

    • @faxxzc
      @faxxzc 5 лет назад

      @@sainttaw2616 You could just put 4 endstops in the resting positions to detect if a tool is present

  • @serrko0
    @serrko0 5 лет назад

    Perfect design will follow Are you going to share the study as open source?

    • @sainttaw2616
      @sainttaw2616 5 лет назад

      When done I would be happy to. However unless you have access to cnc etc I would wait for E3D tool changing heads. I guess the main machine frame as a larger version of E3D may be usefull for some. Thanks for comments.

    • @serrko0
      @serrko0 5 лет назад

      thank you for your answer I will follow.....

  • @cnchobbyist991
    @cnchobbyist991 5 лет назад

    Very nice work!

  • @JasonZnack
    @JasonZnack 5 лет назад

    Well done! Looks like a very solid machine.