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He was and you know it. Gavin Ward always goes against Stoke. Norwich are a dirty side, but also the best side I've seen at the bet in a few years. Good luck for the season.

Will try mate! Guessing you're a Norwich fan?

We shall see how this goes down towards the end of the season...

1750 wow

more than stoke fans would take to norwich ​@alandavies1054

@@TheHesK9 not if we were in the top six…we would sell out no problem

@alandavies1054 literally never seen stoke sell out here. We might be in the play offs, but the relationship between the fans and the owners/club isn't good

@@alandavies1054 id look at your home attendances before you take the piss at our away support bigger attendances in some lower leagues over the weekend and talking off positions you could be in a lower league next season 👍

We are mate sadly

Cheers lad

We shall see

GG on getting to the semis

Hope you get promoted. If you don’t, it’ll be another great away day

Think we will survive?

We have the foundation for a solid team next season!

UTMFP ❤️🤍❤️🤍

Much appreciated!

Glad you liked it

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Exactly lad

I hope so

Cheers mate!

Wilmot didn't make any major mistakes, they're all prone to making them. Can't keep blaming Wilmot. Hoever is the player today is down to, and he will know that.

@@andykb played with McNally and rose kept a clean sheet looked soild the whole defence did Wilmot comes back in we look a complete mess he wouldn’t get in any other championship team don’t get what all the love for him is seriously about

@@andykb and the fact that he moved over so far right that there was a massive gap as to where who should of been standing ohh Yh Ben wilmot should of been standing

@@callumlawton9541 McNally wasn’t even in the squad, so who else do you expect to play there in his place!

@@andykb play junior there bring an under 21 in anyones better then him I hope we do go down becuase then maybe someone might be stupid enough to sign him from us

It’s a very tough run in to the end of the season, but I believe if we can pull a few results together we can survive, just about.

@@andykb I hope you are right Andy but I just don’t see it…lots of effort today but virtually zero threat on goal…a recipe for relegation I’m sad to say mate.

Wasn’t it just

Relegation battle, so going to look awful

Cheers lad

Don’t know how you’re still breathing 😂😂

Crazy ain’t it…

He is!!!

Yes maye

It was mate

Would be nice to see a full away end!

Well said mate

Why not Blackpool

Cheers mate!

Let's hope for an early Christmas gift of 3 points aye

Just hope it works out better than Jones did. Similar sort of appointment tbh, but hoping it works better

@@andykb Well Andy l hope it turns out well for Stoke City. The reality is that SS has experience of 22 games of Championship football. That's his total Championship experience. Now he's supposed to, and he obviously believes he can, turn an underperforming (perhaps that the politest way of describing the current SC side) side into title contenders. Certainly, he hasn't been hired to turn them into a mid-table side. How can he do that if he doesn't have much Championship experience/knowledge since he's never managed a team in the Championship before. How does he know what is required to achieve that aim? Yes, he knows what works and what is needed in League 1, but the Championship is a big step up. I would have thought someone like Neil Warnock, he has a proven Championship track record, would be better suited. But, hey, l'm just a small potato with an opinion. Time will tell.

He fails, nothing will work at this club imo.

Contracts mean naff all. Look at when we got Neil through the door...

It's the league if you want to take step ups, both for players and managers

The away record worries me, but we're used to not winning away so should be a-okay!

A fighting draw is the bare minimum of what I want to see

@@andykb still massively unsure, he needs a decent start! 🤞

Experience doesn't always get you places. We've had Rowett and Neil, both experienced and proven, yet have gone backwards

Just hoping it ain't a sideways step

@@andykb I'd take a side step, I see it as a step backwards tbh

I'm pissed we got him, i don't value him at all and looking forward to league one football, Vale away is coming next year

Who ever we get it will be the cheap option not looking forward to the rest of the season

We've had Rowett and Neil, both experienced and proven, yet have gone backwards. It means naff all in the championship.

Vale fan here mate,he wuna last long,big mistake,hope you finish above them,

@@edwinstarr5591how did you get on against Middlesbrough last night ? Heard you got a spanking. Shows the gulf between the pub league Vale are in compared to the championship where the bigger club stoke are in

You can have him back mate we've made some awful appointments but this is right up there league one here we come

Big club?see you next season,you prob have a new manager by then😂😂😂​@@marcusmarshall8357

​@@marcusmarshall8357well get ready for a Vale v stoke Derby cos this squad is woeful and this managerial appointment breaks all l3vels of stupidity It's Nathan Jones all over again prepare for league one

Argyle are a stepping stone club mate…. We’ve never had money we’re miles from anywhere….. stoke are ex prem and big facilities? Argyle haven’t got owners with the money like Stoke city…. Not a lack of ambition just is what it is

Not quite right RJ. Argyle are ambitious but Stoke have a bigger banks balance and he’s probably tripled his wage. If Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth & Luton can get there so can Plymouth. The club is still building and a bit of compo is welcome.

Argyle announced a 5 year plan this year with ambitions to become a club challenging for promotion to the prem or playoff spots. There is ambition at the club but there has to be some realism too, we're currently the poorest club in the championship financially, we are going to need a few seasons of cash injection from being in the Championship to catch up. Whether it ever comes to fruit is a different issue, but can't deny the ambition is there. But Schuey has gone because Stoke offered him 5x the wages he had at Argyle, so even if he gets sacked in a years time he'll have earned more than seeing out his contract with us.

I'm just hoping he works out here

Yeah I agree that there’s a common denominator with the amount of managers we get through. The thing is with stoke is that you essentially get given the keys to the club and bring in big back room staff and even make other appointments within the club, this is every managers dream but they end up losing the plot with too much freedom trying to build their own dynasties. If by some miracle you get stoke promoted you’d be fully backed with a kitty bigger than a fair few current PL clubs.

100% correct

It's money mate. He's being paid much more weekly and if he fails at the job and gets sacked he'll get a big payout. Money talks. Unfortunately we know his speech that he made to the Stoke fans the day he signed is lies. It's the same things he would say here at Argyle. Only difference is Argyle wouldn't offer him the big bucks. For Stoke fans I hope it works out, but don't be surprised if it doesn't. He's taking advantage of your finances, nothing else

I understand why. But it's naive short term gain for him. If he fails at Stoke and is binned (with a big payout) his next job is back in league one with a mid table side. I don't think he has the managerial credit for another solid Championship appointment off the back of being sacked. Whereas if he stayed at Argyle for the season and I have no doubt he would have kept them up. He walks into a calmer situation at another club with better stability and an equally large salary. That gives him a much better chance of two solid years in the Champ so he is pushing for a Premier league team. I think he has gone "all in" on this job. If he makes it, great he will be destined for higher roles quickly but if he doesn't he will be just another league one manager in the merry-go-round. To me there are a couple of clubs like stoke and probably Swansea/Watford that from the outside look like a risky environment for an ambitious manager. Good luck to him, he's going to need it!!

Money talks sadly. It happened with Neil, and any other manager we have poached so far. It's clear to see it's worked great before...

I hope so too

Cheers mate!