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Theorically she SHOULD be the strongest according to what we know of her abilities (the idea that she cannot beat the Beast of Gaia has been debunked many times), but many point out that Nasu himself once said she would just be able to "manage a defensive fight against a being on the level of a Servant.", what they tend to forget is this has been retconed as regular Shiki was able to kill 99 Servants in Fate/Extra. Nasu also one said she was the second strongest being after Arcueid, but although it's never been proven wrong (except by logic when realizing what she represent lore-wise), it's a quite old statement and probably outdated too.

@@xegin1572 The reason void shiki lacks feats is because the root only gives her the necessary power to defeat her current enemy theoretically the root can give her infinite power if it is necessary to defeat an enemy.

@overknightsyt5495 brainrot ahh. stop trusting info from powerscalers (I stopped powerscaling because I made a conclusion that powerscaling is stupid and it distorted info to make something strong and overpowered.)

@overknightsyt5495 Swirl of the root is merely a concept, being able to bend everything and universe? even abigail (in the future) can do that.

@ im not using power scaling wiki too, it just my conclusion by reading all the info but to me root still beyond anything but i appreciate your opinion if you still think that ORT beat all since i know nasuverse is hard to scale and every people have their own opinion.

ORT/Type Mercury is the strongest being in Nasuverse currently

@ ORT is Type Oort Cloud not Mercury, and yeah ORT is strongest right now but still to me it below void shiki.

@@garcher7631 proof?

​@MayonnaiseW the profile in fgo stated that she could wield more power than her opponent.

@garcher7631 When ORT exceeds the power of the Gaia, it is over. Do you know how Archetype Earth's power works? Earth has to support her. When Earth wrecks first, Archetype Earth loses her power. Archetype Earth's power to become stronger than her opponent relies on Gaia's counter force.

ORT's survival extinct exceeds Gaia's counter force. Archetype Earth can't be infintely strong because her power is supported by the inner core of Earth. Ultimate One / TYPEs >>>> Archetype

@MayonnaiseW proof ORT>>>Earth ("The thing called the World" to be more specific)

Nasu outright said she doesn’t qualify for Grand Foreigner because ORT Xibalba is just stronger. Like she is hard confirmed to be weaker.

Ado counters explicitly EXTREMELY large entities. While ORT is city levels of big. The Ultimate Ones Slash Emperor beat were either continental-sized or larger, aka WAAAY bigger. We don’t know who would win but I wouldn’t bet against the ‘Secret Final Boss’. Especially since that cosmic storm of its can deflect *Excali-blasts* despite missing its POWER CORE.

Actually lostbelt ort was stated multiple times to be a fraction of phh orts power a way to see that is the fact we were not Immiediatly destroyed like the high ranking clock tower mages were when they found him

And archetype earth also exists in lostbelt 7 also it's clearly stated nothing on earth could stop ort also the fact if he was allowed to leave the lostbelt he would've destroyed phh he's so strong that he even has his own archetype (kukukulan) meaning he's comparable if not stronger than the earth of phh which is the reason archetype earth is even a thing taking that into account it's clearly stated in the story only ort can kill ort

@RexGavnith lostbelt archetype earth is nothing like Arceuid Remember she herself knew she was a fake and she couldn't even leave her floor

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