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This was such a good pod

Thanks!

Skippy Jammer INSANE shout. Met him at the Slug alumni game last year. Apparently he used to be the athletic director and played.

A contexless clip with no link to a larger conversation and no way for a viewer to understand what is actually going on?

Incredible stories and messaging here. I find it hard to believe that Kenny survived off of solely ibuprofen after tearing an ACL in semis going into finals… maybe I’m Charmin in comparison, but this seems impossible. My closest is getting a Liz Franc sprain in pool play of college Nationals, barely being able to walk normally, and taking ibuprofen for pre-quarters and quarters - paid the price later with a year plus of recovery after doing this though

We can talk about referees versus observers, but when Nob said "with an observer" I think you all missed a HUGE opportunity to talk about how ineffective "game advisors" are, especially after how WUC went this past year. For a current ultimate documentary you all need to reach out to Tony Leonardo as he's started working on one and is fundraising now.

That's an OG Kraftee right there 💜💛

I love Nob

True 🤷🏻‍♂️

Bring Tony Leonardo on Re History

Great review!

Hot take: white t-shirt bro at 40s returns to the UFA this year

If any of you wear gloves i would love to see head to head glove reviews

now this is peak content

Pod practice videos goin crazy

Really nice review. Just this month I finally upgraded from the 25 year old Jansport backpack that has been my ultimate bag for most of my career, and I did end up choosing Greatest over Patagonia. It was just better value. (The WMUC branding was a nice perk.) Honestly I'm surprised that the big name sporting goods companies haven't made something like The Greatest Bag at this point. There's very little about it that's truly ultimate-specific; essentially all of its features would be equally useful for a traveling soccer player.

Two of worlds of mine that I did not expect to collide, cool episode

26:32 beating a 2-person bracket

33-45 represent 😂

Some examples of Vintage Footage of Bart Watson for Kins (and anyone) to watch: 2009 World Games: Part 1 - ruclips.net/video/y1znYM1DBV4/видео.html Part 2 - ruclips.net/video/xFYwfvFJ2qM/видео.html Part 3 - ruclips.net/video/XZw2gJRDSNU/видео.html Part 4 - ruclips.net/video/cz9eJIt2Fs4/видео.html 2011 USAU Club Finals (Bart on Revolver vs. Ironside) ruclips.net/video/2hPv9YSNNvg/видео.html 2012 Club Championship vs Doublewide (Bart on Revolver vs. Doublewide) ruclips.net/video/v_Eg_wducP0/видео.html 2014 WUCC Club Semifinal (Bart on Johnny Bravo vs. Revolver) ruclips.net/video/0KZN1ggbwLg/видео.html

I came here from the latest pod, thanks for letting me know about this fantastic episode!

In Rowan's Excel Ultimate Weekly class - loving it so far. One thing I'll say...is that from a pure business standpoint, I wouldn't just make these instantly available for the rest of EXCEL While for sure, sharing knowledge with the community is great....the exclusivity of being able to receive knowledge from these top players and converse with them is kind of the product we paid for...and it somewhat cheapens/devalues or "cannibalizes" the product if these are instantly made available to a larger audience through the subscription. Would be happy to talk further on the business strategy on this Rowan.

This was a fantastic pod. I think Kins may be on to something with Atlas. Can you folks do a BE Ultimate Playbook bit with Rowan on the functional break? I'd love to see some more video breakdown of that.

This parody?

This was actually a teally timely and interesting episode for me. Ive never hsd sucess dating poasibly in part because of what Mikey mentioned about giving so much to ultimate and not enough to a partner. This week i finally went on a date with somone who does play frisbee and it was legit my best date ever. So was really interesting to think about that during this ep.

Mikey drop the link for the super long foot health podcast!

100% - Running Zone at Youth is bad for the game long term

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I like that hot-take about throwing making you worse at ultimate and that time would be better served if spent on defensive footwork. Definitely an area I struggle with, are there any specific workouts or drills to improve footwork on defense? Great episode and great guest!

2024; better, faster, more painted fingernails

Nick Stuart is the hardest player I ever marked up against in 10 years playing ultimate at every level.

The game has definitely evolved since 2016. You can definitely argue that 2024 would win, but I think it's a mistake to use "style of play" as the argument. The conditions of 2024 Worlds makes it tough to judge how they would have played in calmer conditions. If you look at his throw selection, Rowan was not playing like Rowan from Truckstop 2022/2023. Likely because of the wind. The 2024 team had plenty of "shooter" types on the team too... they might have possessed in calmer conditions, but 🤷‍♂. On points received of semi finals, the 2016 O line had 2 turns and their swing line had 1. In finals I believe they had 1 O line turn total. As a coach, I've over indexed to the 2024 style to a fault, and we just saw Rhino win with a much more 2016 style than 2024. The 2016 team could play big ball, because they were impossible to matchup with and had more than enough skill. 2016 Jimmy and Ashlin would still be the best throwers on the 2024 team. I'd be curious to see how much trouble the 2024 D line would give the 2016 offense. IMO the 2016 defense would give the 2024 offense more trouble than vice versa. Ashlin, Prime Jimmy, Goose, Beau, Cassidy, Danny Karlinsky, Joel Schlachet is harder to match up against than Malks, Mac, Quinn, Rowan, Ben, Kocher, & Trent IMO. The quality of opponent in 2016 was just higher as well. That was the tail end for the primes of the best Japanese players we've ever seen. I think the best Canadian roster ever is from 2008. The general opinion is that the 2024 team is deeper, but I'm really not so sure. Knowing Osgar, Jack, Joe White, and Babbitt didn't even tryout and Bansfield and Spicer dropped out definitely makes me wonder what the 2024 2nd team would look like.

Nick was a really good guest , I think US 2024 STARCHES 2016 ( we have to take into account evolution of the game ) Agree with Kins what you should do whatever strategy is most effective, but at a super beginner level Zone can be boring but at high level tournaments they should know how to break zones

2016 >>>

22:30, hw 40:58, responsibility of own reactions. 43:28, Mikey's response 59:30, regarding the discussion on expressing feedback, the ripping off the bandaid analogy is actually really helpful, considering a story I heard about Dan Ariely and his burns he had treated. The nurse preferred to rip off the bandages quickly, which he felt was really painful, but she felt less emotional pain as it was over quickly. He preferred her to slowly remove the bandages bc it wasn't as painful that way, but the nurse found it distressing. The analogy is that the bandages need to come off, the words need to be said. But whether you choose to do it nicely or not is something completely different, and sometimes what's comfortable for the person giving feedback (ie, angrily barking out an order) isn't comfortable for the person getting feedback. And vice versa. And maybe some people will just be misaligned this way. But the words need to be exchanged for the team to grow. So either you accept that issue or you just avoid communication altogether "Should be friends with everyone on the team?" A couple perspectives - Mikey, it's not necessary for winning, but it's preferable as an environment for a team to be on. - Kins, you won't be good friends with everyone, but it's important to be friendly - 1:01:37, Quinn, it's more important to be open and communicative and not just be fake friendly. Fake friendly is bad for a team's effectiveness. - Nick, 1:03:08. More important to be good teammates than good friends 1:59:35, who tf is self Triad that was my question yo 😂. Anyways, Jack Hatchet, Christian Foster, Lucas Dahmans(??),

dream team vs Redeem team type debate. Game has changed and sadly cant be compared imo. That era was still iso ultimate, hitting deeps, not as much small ball. I still think 2016 wins both on paper and in game. 2024 definitely had more pure role players. things get interesting though if Dylan, Jack and Jeff Babbitt cleated up this cycle

Team USA Men's 2016 vs 2024. 2024 wins simply because they know how to play low-turnover frisbee. There are small-ball skills like cutting patterns, agility, throws (offhand backhand) but most importantly it's a mentality. Jimmy is amazing but he is a shooter. Being the best shooter in that constant turnover era was a boon. Today, holstering wins. Go watch old games with the top teams from that era. By today's standards the decision making is embarrassing.

This is such an interesting topic. As an older player I'm trying to avoid most, if not all, physical play. I believe there is a place for a delicate balance. Ultimate doesn't have a pay level that warrants that type of physicality of play, Yet!

Hi

Get me on to talk about throwing!!! Id be so down to get in depth about it!

I think for both USA and Canada they do Select teams until Masters, I think that changed in 2016-2018 for both. If Im not mistaken USAU kept the Club Representation for Masters mainly for logistics and they dont need to comply with any other world Qualifications. Dont quote me on this thooo

I traded jerseys with Anthony from Japan GMO, seemed like a nice guy. Would've liked to say hi too (the thought crossed my mind that you might be there), sent a few clips from the pod to the team leading up to WUMC

Love how this lesson is so concise.

Man, I've been listening to you guys lately and I was at WMUC with the Venezuelan team and I did not know you were there. I was one of the guys playing with the drummers.

This one was definitely one of the best so far!!

This whole episode of the pod was fantastic. Thanks for clipping this part for us. Are you going to do more from this episode?

Brodie and Kins... that would probably explode the ultimate world.

I cant see Mike the same way anymore since I started to thinking he looks like Pharrell Williams :)

Love listening to this podcast as if it were a gossip sesh

Alex Rubin been real quiet since this dropped