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So if the problem is that "nobody is willing to take a haircut" and the CEO is one of the people riding to budge, doesn't that wrap back around to him being partially culpable in the system?

Haha, no! Just a healthcare expert that I know and love!

So your special guest, is that Natalie's sister?

Hey ladies my crazy ladies, what kind of serum are you using on your eyelashes? Now that I'm old and haggerty I need something because my not only does my hair thin out but my eyelashes have too

Right???😂

Put a pee stick in the cake 🎂!! Lol

Thanks lady!!😊hope you’re well!!

This one was really really good and so helpful with understanding the dynamics between me and you know who lol I am definitely the stonewaller and she is definitely the pursuer and me being defensive is definitely protecting myself in a vulnerability and being open and all that well she uses contempt a lot It all makes sense so that was really really helpful and I really enjoyed this one :-) Missy ladies

John Wayne gacy

Art the clown yikes

Hahaha! Truth!

See? Note to all protagonists: Don't investigate the strange noises!

Baby oil huh? Sounds like your old car was a real couch surfer lol

What a monster!

Need to get you to watch Hellraiser, aka: "Armie Hammer, the later years"

What about the movie terrorfior??? Art the clown, lol part three is coming out soon... Just the tip, lol

Swan dive off the upper deck?? Lmao!!!

Really brave of the guest to share her story, so glad she was able to shut out down before she got sucked in deeper. Good job not drinking the flavorade!

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Did you watch the documentary Beware the Slenderman as part of your episode research? If not, it gives some really interesting perspectives on the girls and the history of Slendy.

Dude's just like a batman villain: looks overdramatic, an awful crook, gets beat up a lot, and his mystique is entirely fictional 😂😂😂

There's a show, Worst Roommate Ever, and one of the newer episodes has a situation that sounds VERY similar to what you guys describe.

I have seen the roommate, but have you guys seen single white female?? That's another one to see with borderline personality disorder if you have not yet already

Just got done listening, looking forward to the next :-)

Now if you want to talk about boy bands like Metallica, I'm all in haha

Dude's a sick puppy!

The case of Tawnee Baird would be an interesting one for you guys to cover, given it has LGBTQ elements. Be interesting to hear how that influences your guys' perspective!

Please look up black bird… Apple did a movie on it, true story from the 90s.

I refused to have a diary when I was a teen.

I like your school idea ! ....here is another idea ..... start a podcast for teens , you can even go over DV teen cases in the public spotlight and that opens the door to talk about so much knowledge you both have about it to that audience 😊

Thank you for adding that! I didn’t know that piece. Appreciate you listening😊

They were filmed by store surveillance at Whole Foods in Wyoming on Aug 27. That was 15 days after the Moab Utah stop.

Gabby called her mother from the backseat of the police cruiser. These statements are from the Petito v Moab lawsuit. 3. Gabby contacted her family to tell them that the couple had been fighting, that Brian had hit her, and that the police had been called. The family immediately responded by beginning to arrange for Gabby to fly home and to have her van shipped home, to separate her from Brian. 98. Gabby then called her parents. 99. On that call, Gabby’s parents demanded that Gabby fly home to get away from Brian, offering to pay for her ride to Salt Lake City and her flight home. But upon learning that the police were involved, Gabby’s parents accepted Gabby’s assurances that she should continue her trip. Gabby’s parents relied to their detriment on the police officers involved to evaluate the situation and intervene as necessary to protect Gabby. But for the officers’ failure to investigate and follow Utah law, Gabby’s parents would have intervened to end the trip and bring Gabby home.

"On Gabby, there was a mark pointed out on her left arm as well as a scratch on her left cheek. On Brian, injuries were pointed out by Park Ranger Ryan Kral near his right eye, left side of his neck, left side of his nose, center of his face, bruise and bleeding on the right side of his head, and a red mark near his right bicep/tricep area." From Combined Statement and Investigative Report - Petito-Laundrie Incident - Moab Utah Police Website

The 911 caller wasn't from Moab. He was driving through called 911 and left the area. The second witness (who everyone ignores) was standing outside and said he saw the entire incident. He gave a police officer his contact information and later went to the PD to file a written report. Read the full transcribed statement: "At approximately 4:30 p.m., I arrived at Moonflower. While standing on the south side of the street, I observed a man and woman appear to have some sort of a dispute. They were talking aggressively at each other and something seemed off. At one point they were sort of fighting over a phone, I think the male took the female's phone. It appeared that he didn't want her in the white van. He got into the drivers seat and she followed him. At one point she was punching him in the arm and/or face and trying to get into the van. " She eventually climbed in over him and over the passenger seat. I heard her say, "Why do you have to be so mean?" I wasn't sure how serious this was - it was hard to tell if it was sort of play fighting, but from my point of view something definitely didn't seem right. It was as if this guy was trying to leave her, and maybe take her phone? Not sure but wanted to help out. I noticed another person had called this in, and as soon as I left the store, I noticed a police officer and gave him my contact info. abc7ny.com/amp/gabby-petito-disappearance-911-call-brian-laundrie/11036257/

They actually broke off the engagement before the road trip and made a decision to be friends.

1:24 uhm ackshually, I exclusively listen to things I hate. Otherwise how would I know what to be upset about?!

There's more proof that Nicole was obsessed with OJ than the other way around.

Most of the men you've met have completely ignored you. Like 99.9% of them

"Professional!" "...dang it!"

There's no way you could take a black bear in a 1v1 fight😂

Howdy!

Another biased narrative. No mention of the witness who flagged down a cop because Gabby started punching Brian 1st? I watched the cop cam and Gabby's behavior was that of a typical abuser. 15 seconds before the stop she was assaulting Brian while he was driving, that's a level of comfort a victim wouldn't have, she was the abuser. Abuse is about control, out of the two, it was Gabby who tried to maintain control of Brian, not the other way around. Gabby begging, almost demanding, they not be separated while Brian looked grateful for the break, even volunteering to go elsewhere to keep Gabby out of jail, protecting his abuser. Gabby explaining what set her off, apologizing profusely, I love him, I didn't mean to hurt him, classic cycle of domestic violence. Unfortunately, people don't take domestic violence against men seriously. There's not one doubt in my mind that Gabby was abusive. Victims will eventually snap, that's just a fact of domestic violence. She should have been arrested. This was also determined by a subsequent investigation and the cops were disciplined for letting her walk.