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if the professor already had a history of inappropriate relations with students, and had to leave his last seminary post because of inappropriate relations, why would Fuller, one of the leading seminaries in the country, immediately turn around and hire him with his past problems? a reasonable explanation is that they were looking to hire minorities to fill some DEI quota, very plausible, makes all the sense in the world, especially coming from Fuller based on its hiring history of late.

@@christandculture9342 Yes, I know it is a reasonable explanation. But you could be wrong, and your wording in the video didn't make this clear. You could be dead wrong and actually be slandering Fuller and causing your audience to see ghosts everywhere: DEI at every corner. There are a million reasons a seminary could hire a professor with major past problems, if you don't have tunnel vision and understand you and I don't have any concrete evidence. For instance, maybe Dr. Bantu has person friends in power at Fuller. It would still be corrupt, but not based on DEI. Maybe the folks at Fuller thought the earlier transgression was repented of adequately. Maybe Fuller staff investigated the earlier problems and thought they were not that bad *and on and on.*

Look at the hiring patterns at Fuller over the last 10 years, look at the printed material Fuller puts out to alumni, etc. it all points to a school going "woke." Diversity is a major push at Fuller Seminary, and this is not a secret, it's out in the open. The are pushing from top to bottom for diverse seminary community, not in a natural way, but in a very intentional and planned way. Take away the fact that this professor was a "person of color" he probably would not have been hired, when there are plenty of other academics more qualified looking for positions today. i think you need to do your homework about Fuller seminary and look at the trajectory it's on.

​@@christiananswers4054 Look at your own wording "he *probably* would not have been hired" so that's an admission that you're just guessing. *If Dr. Bantu is indeed qualified*, and your *only* evidence is Fuller's outreach to people of color, then I don't think you have any good evidence. After all, you were not in the room during his interview.

i'm still waiting for you to explain the grounding for your ethical/moral system, because you don't seem to understand the biblical one. you comment and criticize other, but where are you coming from exactly. yes, i know you love to troll Christians and make fun of them, but what is your belief system? expose your own beliefs so people can pick and critique yours.

define what you mean by Christian.

@@greghurley632 it’s more a matter of pissing God off!

@@christiananswers4054 Melanie is well on her way to hell.

Fuller was started by faithful Christians over 75 years ago, but they have drifted over the years, on that i will agree. There are still good, solid Christians teaching at and attending Fuller, but the leadership there is allowing the school to drift.

@@christiananswers4054 false people keep falling for this brainwashing and it's very annoying. William Branham was even connected to Fuller seminary in the beginning instead of spouting this nonsense why don't you actually do your homework do you think William Branham was a legitimate teacher?

Genesis ideal is one man, one woman, that's God's standard. did he permit a variation called polygamy? yes, in ancient times, but these variations caused problems and trouble, so it's obvious the perfect will of God has always been monogamy. in the new testament, monogamy is promoted exclusively, especially for church leaders, but really for everyone. are there cases on the mission field where a tribal chief is married to multiple woman, gets converted, and is allowed to continue in polygamy? yes. but these are rare exceptions.

@@christiananswers4054 Is that passage meant as a law from God for all of time? Apparently not because God seems to condone it. The problem with your interpretation is you are adding to the Bible. Is Genesis 1 -3 Hebrew poetry? In the New Testament the husband of one wife is dealing with qualification. Remember those that have several wives you the same Bible to prove their point. Common sense tells me one wife is better. All you have to do is watch Sister Wives for a season and that might change your mind about having more than one wife.

Huh?

it's called being "woke" and many are copying the secular institutions in it.

so your only moral standard concerning sex is consent? what is the basis of your moral system?

@@christiananswers4054 Bantu has demonstrated that he is unwilling or unable to live up to Evangelical standards. Unless this changes, I agree that he must move on, hopefully voluntarily. What I don't like about his story is that he is trying to play both sides, doing what he wants to do and making up explanations that are clearly not acceptable within the broader group. I don't define my morality by the Bible. For me, it is not immoral for him to have several sex partners as long as they are all consenting adults. However, I do find his behavior of trying to justify his behavior within the Evangelical community as odd/troubling. I suspect he has some other mental health issues.

yes, you are correct, God intends for "straight white men" to lead the church. 100%, as for muslims, i can't speak for their religion, but i'm sure they happen to get some things right, even though they get a lot wrong. if they teach God's will is for men to lead, they are correct, even if that expression of leadership is excessive and harsh. the basic principle, they happen to get correct.

the answer is for everyone, men and women, to return to following God's Word, period.

serioiusly? what difference does it make? of course it makes a difference, because who wants to live in an insane asylum? not to mention the fact that it's a lie. who wants a world full of lies? Jesus says as Christians we are to be the "salt of the earth." yes, we care about everything that pertains to humanity.

yes, these are called liberals, or the more modern term "progressives" but they are already known as compromised. the problem in the black community is now so-called black conservatives are supporting abortion political parties and candidates. that's disgraceful. no true bible believing christian leader, black or white, would empower baby killers.

@@christiananswers4054 All the major religions have one fundamental problem, Within each of them there is an enormous variation of beliefs that all purport to come from the same text,,,at least same basic text as I recognize there can be substantial variation in the varios versions. To a non believer, this is perplexing. Buddhists seem to be the most unified but they don't base there views on a single book. And even Buddhists have friction between denominations.

there's nothing wrong with teaching from the Bible concerning a political issue, such as abortion is evil, gender is either male or female, etc. these are clear biblical teachings that pastors must teach that are political. but most political issues are not clearly addressed in the Bible. pastors should not contradict biblical teachings in order to appear friendly to radical leftists or liberals. nor should they play the same games as politicians by spinning, flattering, or propagandizing.

In my opinion, Greg Locke is a total nut job. However, I will give him credit for one thing. He makes his political statements very explicit, whereas many pastors try to convey the same basic message but are much more subtle. However, the downside of both approaches is that it alienates vast numbers of people.

he does it in order to pander to them so that they like him and give him a seat at the table, so he thinks. in reality, they use him and give him nothing in return. so it's all a waste anyway.

are you kidding me? after all these years and mormons are don't know what their founder joseph smith taught? what a joke. this is all mormon rationalization and gaslighting. and besides, your church in the past didn't doubt what joseph smith taught because past presidents have taught the same thing. stop trying to spin things and act like there is some conspiracy by some to mischaracterize the teachings of joseph smith. mormons pasted along the sermons and teachings and doctrines of joseph smith, and to now question these teachings is indeed throwing joseph smith under the bus. as a real christian, i welcome mormons from throwing out the teachings of joseph smith, but don't try to lie and say he never to these things. be honest. stop acting like there is any question. the issue of whether the king follett sermon is authentic was settled long ago, stop trying to backtrack and rewrite history. you lose all respect if you do.

@@christiananswers4054 lol, I wouldn't expect you to understand. I don't care for your respect or anyone's credibility. God's marvelous work and a wonderful is going to flip all of these supposed settled historical points on their head. He did it before the Babylonian conquest and he's doing it again now.

@@prophetcentral if you put your faith in joseph smith and believe in the heresies of the mormon church, that means you are gullible and will fall for anything. God is doing a marvelous work: converting mormons to real Christianity.

@@christiananswers4054 I know very well to not put my faith in men. I believe in the heresies of heaven that are a threat to modern Mormonism and Christianity as a whole which is that great and abominable w-h-o-r-e that has taken the name of Christ in vain. I don't know you, and I don't know if you know what real Christianity, but I see God working in all sects to bring them out of idolatry and adultery to be given power to become the children of Christ. God will make all those who think they are wise and know truth to be ashamed of their supposed and feigned understanding, even all those Christians who think they are converted to "real Christianity." This is the word of God. He did it to me, so I stand as a living witness of God's power and grace.

@@christiananswers4054 yes, I can witness of that as God performed that work in my life. He will make all those who think they are wise and know truth to be ashamed of their supposed wisdom and be made foolish and humble. Mormonism has fallen into the same lump as Christianity being children of that great and abominable you-know-what that is idolatrous and adulterous. No faith in men or trusting in the arm of flesh. No denying God's Word. We must all be united. Sectarianism is a sin and cannot exist in the kingdom of heaven.

i don't know what you are quoting, but i presume it's mormon approved texts, maybe the book of mormon. the lesson is, even mormon teachings contradict. outside the fact that it's all fake, the book of mormon actually doesn't teach much heresy. but joseph smith himself taught lots of error, especially the king follett sermon. no wonder mormons are trying to distance themselves from it.

100%, if joseph smith is the so-called prophet he wouldn't be teaching false doctrine. if mormons today won't own up to the errors of the king follett sermon, they should renounce it, instead of trying both affirm and deny it. that's schizophrenia.

why include the Holy Spirit in the baptism formula? answer that. the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Why include the Holy Spirit on the same level as the Father and Son? it would be blasphemy to do so unless the Holy Spirit were full deity. you can't deal with matthew 28, and until you deal honestly with it, you have no criticism of orthodox christianity.

@@christiananswers4054 Inclusion of the holy spirit in the baptism formula is the clue to what is actually been said, Because the Holy Spirit does not have a name therefore It means the power and authority of the Holy Spirit, the power and authority of Jehovah, and the power and authority of Jesus Christ... The Holy Spirit is directly from Jehovah God, hence its called God's Holy Spirit, so baptising in the name of it is the same as baptising in the name of the law....It's the power and authority that the law holds.. It's the same thing being mentioned in matthew 19... Matthew recorded Jesus as saying... "go therefore and baptize"... in the power and the authority of the name of God who has given all authority to the son to use the power and have the authority of Jehovahs holy spirit as a seal that you disciple baptise from the true God....in his name and with his approval....that's what it all means.

@@christiananswers4054 And if you don't accept my answer, tell me...what is the name of the holy spirit?

they don't like to admit it but they are really polytheists. that is not christianity.

i agree, nothing wrong from a biblical perspective.

ah, ok, i'm misinformed. that sounds like the standard mormon taking points whenever someone says something the mormon church doesn't like about the church. misunderstand, ill-informed, false perception, misinformation, mischaracterization, etc. funny how i can quote authoritative sources, past church presidents, official mormon history and documents, YET, i'm misunderstanding something. did all the past mormons, including past presidents, misunderstand these things? i guess the only official talking points are the present day spin and rebranding that is going on today. funny, that's not how past mormons would explain the faith. the people today trying to redefine mormonism are the dishonest ones. get your story straight. don't take out your own cognitive dissonance on me.

@@christiananswers4054 you can literally come visit one of our many temple open-houses and we’ll explain every ordinance we do inside. Saying it’s a secret and we don’t talk about it is literally misinformation. Pastor Jeff actually did a well researched, informative video on this topic. Hope this helps 😊

can i come to salt lake city and enter the mormon temple and observe everything going on there during the special wedding ceremony and other rituals? are you sure?

i'm willing to look into any theological issues related to LDS church, are you? I'm being gaslit be people who are now claiming the their cult founder joseph smith did not teach doctrines he clearly taught, doctrines that past LDS presidents clearly taught, and everyone knows it. now, mormons are claiming joseph never taught these doctrines, or if he did, they are just his spectulations and theories about things that carry no official weight in the LDS church. this is revisionist history. why can't you simply admit that joseph smith taught these things, mormons believed these things and still believe these things? how about a little honesty? is that asking too much from you? be honest and say, "yes, joseph taught this, the church believed this for many decades, but we don't believe this any more. it was taught in error." can you say that? do that, instead of blaming your critics for simply being honest. no, i'm not willing to play your "spin" game and rebranding marketing campaign. get your history right, deal in reality, stop trying to rewrite history. stop lying about joseph smith.

@@christiananswers4054 The problem isn't that Joseph Smith or the LDS Church did or didn't teach something. The problem is the misinterpretation, misunderstanding, and misrepresentation of the teaching that you're claiming is a fact. That's why I said what I said. I am more than happy to go topic for topic with you and let you know where you're mischaracterizing the LDS belief.

There were a few things that were either incorrect or poorly informed, but enough of it was accurate to make the point that Mormons are definitely not what one might consider a traditional Christian. While some Mormons might not be concerned about that, it’s likely not represented as such by the missionaries to investigators.

@@robocoxo While missionaries may not straight up come out and say, "we're Christian, but not like your traditional Christian" is neither here nor there. Every missionary I have ever met generally begins their discussion with non-members by talking about the restoration and Joseph Smith's first vision. And if you don't take away from the first vision that we don't believe in traditional Christianity then that's on you for not listening. But regardless, I can be Christian and not believe in traditional Christianity's false man-made teachings. Guys like Jeff don't get to decide who is and isn't Christian.

@@whiteknight557 explain how you are an authority on all things mormon? please give your credentials and why you speak for the mormon church.

Missionaries are like the waiters, they can help newcomers or those interested in navigating the menu to see what’s here. If you have a problem with the menu, it’s kinda dumb to argue with the waiter about it. You need to talk to the chefs (in this case, members of the church in academia who focus on apologetics.) A good example would be Jacob Hansen (his RUclips page is called Thoughtful Faith.) he’s usually open to formal debates if you reach out to him. Hope this helps ❤️

are you saying, "just forget about a thing called truth?" Build your own thing? are you kidding? who do you think build western civilization? a big part of building is not building on shaky foundation or using inferior materials. that's all what christians are doing correcting mormons. you guys are building on a false foundation with joseph smith, and your building materials are not safe. it's actually a loving thing to point out a building is unsafe. that's all we're doing. mormonism is unsafe, spiritual and otherwise. it looks like christianity from the surface, but if you look deeper it's not. it's unsafe to trust your eternal soul with mormonism.

@christiananswers4054 I highly recommend you make a sincere study of the gospel restored through Joseph Smith. As our current prophet, Russell M. Nelson said, time is running out. Evangelicalism is theocratically and morally bankrupt. I could send you a digital copy of the Book of Mormon and send the missionaries.

@@laynehansen6216 there is no restored gospel through joseph smith. joseph smith was a false prophet who the mormon church is now trying to distance itself from, especially his king follett sermon and his teachings on the nature of God. i'm shocked to find mormons now saying joseph got it wrong. how can you accept the teachings of someone you now say taught about God erroneously? a true prophet doesn't teach about God wrong, like joseph did in the king follett discourse. sorry, i'll decline your invitation to follow such a false prophet. i recommend you stop following him too.

@christiananswers4054 I've never heard anyone in any official capacity withdraw from Joseph Smith. Let me know if you ever humble yourself and I send that book.

@@laynehansen6216 let me know if you ever humble yourself and look at mormon history honestly. look at the book of abraham honestly. that book has nothing to do with abraham.

you sound like a cynical person who has given up on all truth and has taken the attitude "live and let live, it doesn't matter what you believe, truth is dead anyway." for myself, i'm not a cynic like yourself. i still believe that truth matters, especially in respect to eternal truths and life and death matters like eternal salvation and having a proper relationship with God. so go ahead and be cynical and skeptical of all spiritual truth, but just know, that is not how jesus and the apostles acted. they cared about getting truth right. they tried to refute error and correct people going down the wrong road. that's what i'm trying to to. the question of whether joseph smith taught truth or error matters, but you sound like some cynical person who's given up on all truth anyway, so what does it matter what i say? why even comment?