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Or just like T3 RS ( 9 crit 1 swif )? And Play with MI/SS? and not PD? Idk im just trying to figure it out

@@WindYx20 I think these are all viable choices, i personally chose PD because i didnt wanna deal with the SS limitation of sometimes being under HP and I also dont have the CD gems required to have a smooth rotation so need the extra swift. Keep in mind im planning on pushing my sf to 1680 soon and going spec EO. If i was planning on sticking with RS id look more into optimizing my build and getting better gems but this setup is decent enough for my current goals.

@@delay8848 I have 1 lvl 8cd and rest 7s T4, probably gonna stick with 30 spec 9 crit 1 swif + ( ss kbw cd gr adre )

yea.. and this is with the 10% visibility setting lol

yes in most cases

xdd

You can activate ark passive at 1660 with some armor pieces yes (1 or 2 minimum). But phoenix will only out perform akir on the guardian raid and behemoth, outside of that youre better sticking to Akir and putting points in the crit dmg neutral line instead.

​​@@delay8848thanks bro, I thought that Phoenix was better in that case but I'll consider ur recomendation!

@@MrRaiko1 For phoenix to be better it needs to hit 2 aftershock explosions, small hitboxes this is wayy to unreliable.

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You need to hit minimum 2 aftershock explosions for phoenix to be better then Akir in terms of its damage per gauge spent. These explosions are also random in terms of their spacing so the only way to guarantee 2+ hits is to have a large hitbox on the boss. This means currently only the guardian raid and behemoth are viable options for phoenix spamming, and I do swap to that in those raids. But in thaemine for instance he is too small to make it reliable IMO and choose to use Akir instead.

You need to hit minimum 2 aftershock explosions for phoenix to be better then Akir in terms of its damage per gauge spent. These explosions are also random in terms of their spacing so the only way to guarantee 2+ hits is to have a large hitbox on the boss. This means currently only the guardian raid and behemoth are viable options for phoenix spamming, and I do swap to that in those raids. But in thaemine for instance he is too small to make it reliable IMO and choose to use Akir instead.

@@delay8848 Yeah I was thinking about that.. hitbox might be Really huge to be struck by all the explotions of the phoenix. And what about Alimaji?

@@JuanRodriguez-gl9hm Alimaji is VERY good if the target is countered/staggered but outside of that doesnt have the power to compete with Akir. So its too siutational as a main energy dump.

Broken?? It's so static, it has no movement skill and it's a very very slow class with very slow animation locked skills.

maririn does 25% dmg

Released will is a safer option with the extra counter and push immune but maririn offers just more dps output as a skill on its own on top of stronger gauge generation which also translates to more damage.

You can play her without but itl feel a bit more clunky, especially when you try and 3x Akir. The aftercast on storm isnt that bad but its a bit lengthy on Ancient spear. End of the day its not required but just highly recommended to make an already very slow class feel a bit snappier.

Alright thanks!

I think ill settle on the stand up striker build as can be found on the community guide. The only variations id do is once I have the full ark passive, if I end up with a crit syn id swap over to blunt spike to make use of the extra crit (otherwise id overcap) as well as id rarely put points into the phoenix/alimaji side node, only opting into that for behemoth.

u need to relax mr painzytank

I agree!

I am! All my characters are Chloe____ so you probbaly see me around on my alts as well.

@@delay8848 Nice, yeah I have seen a few of them hah

There is yet enough data collectwd but behemot is ome of the boss big enough for phoenix to be worth

currently its BARELY worth it if you hit all explosions, but once we get ark passive we can use the pheonix trait line and itl become good if you can guarantee 2+ explosions, which is easy on behemoth so thatl be a good boss for it.

My top 6: Summoner 1654 Blade/Bard 1630 Breaker/Souleater/Soulfist 1620 Summoner Aegir HM on release Blade + Bard Aegir NM on release Ignite server ill make a drizzle aero, no plans to replace anyone in top 6 but could be fun. Excited for T4 owo.

@@delay8848wasn’t aegir hm 1680? Or are we getting it nerfed

@@applepumpkin They have not announced anything, there was speculation that the special announcement today would be an ilevel nerf, but it seems almost certain it was actually for the early T skills + Hyper awakening, so personally i think no ilevel nerf is coming.

Thanks and gl as well may you never miss an akir prayge. And dw about the hater comments, those are just my friends trolling.

@@delay8848 makes sense haha no worries. Yeah, never miss and akir, right haha!! Thanks man

thats too many maririns for the boss to handle my god.

the meter wasnt updated on day 1 for EU so i do not know.

aw man sadge

we only ran dark bombs.

going to do my first heavy pug run today.. that might change my mind xddshaking

@@delay8848 If everyone gets tornado line mech = fun. If everyone doesn't = not fun

yes its me lmao how did u find me

Haha I've been playing a bit of gw1 recently and saw james' video and saw your namein the comments

@@kun-linwu8307 ahhh that makes sense

currently its critical, i have not been following the arc passive summoner meta in korea though to know if this chsnges to master in the future

@@delay8848 thanks majesty

@@Xellitoss Yea my version using conv judge let's you skimp on some cd gems.its quite comfy in that regard

they are quite powerful

maririn should throw the bomb..

build is at the end, 22:41 . For that 4 akirs I assume you mean the 3x Akir combo. This image should give you a good idea on how to execute it i.imgur.com/z86w4NB.png This combo is a crucial part of summoners DPS.

@@delay8848 thanks but actually i wonder your skills, tripod, normal rotation or so

@@tolgakeskin299 my skills and tripods are linked at the timestamp i mentioned above. The normal rotation on summoner is more a priority list, theres no set rotation, you just use Akir if you have Akir, if you dont have Akir you use your gauge generators with an order on the strongest to weakest, so always use storm/ancient spear as a high prio and if those arnt up use earth collapse/water ele/horses. your other skills like moss/shurdi/maririn are just buffs/syn that you spam off cd or just very low gauge.

@@delay8848thanks for all info

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kpop boundless is gone.

bro might be pusing 1mil MAX relax..

@@delay8848dont shit talk the goat…

ty, summoner is very versatile and echidna is a nice raid on her, youll have a good time.

3.1

​@@delay8848i saw some db has 4.5+cpm even 5+cpm in thaemine.. Is that speed hacks? How do u think

@@cccning1919 Thaemine and Echidna are different raids, thaemine g3 for isntance has less cutscenes and more active playing time allowing for higher cpms. you can see the same thing in guardian raids where you can reach 6 cpm. Its not speedhacking, its just good gameplay on very high sustain fights that dont have much downtime

@@delay8848 how much cpm can u do in thaemine g3 ?

@@cccning1919 3.8-4.0 is my regular

I think souleater is more complete then summoner, it has good mobility and QOL. I personally prefer Summoner but overall id say SE is a stronger class.

@@delay8848 i was debating between them. I ended up creating a MS since i like your play. But its really hard to play, i miss all Akir and do zero dmg :((

@@sidtse1222 Youll get it with time, summoner is all about learning your timings for akir since he takes long to cast, but once you have it down and can abuse the push immune youll be hitting much more.

@@delay8848 Thank you for your reply! Is there any tips or tricks how to play her well in general or may be some rotations to do in certain circumstances that you know of. Anything would be much appreciated. Trying to bring her to the fight. Her ilv is 1600 but im not confident of playing her.

@@sidtse1222 Animations cancels will help a lot. ruclips.net/video/1ey674xifus/видео.html this video goes over some of the ones you can do and itl help you a lot. Rotation wise id take a look at the community guide (lostark.nexus/summoner) for some pretty good tips.

ya i was hoping that wed get some sort of movement skill or maybe aspeed/mvspeed steroid in the ark passive.. but maybe we get it with our new T skill. One can hope..

@@delay8848 at this point anything lol

Kaya was particularly bad for summoner. All the recent raids have been significantly more friendly for master summoner with the exception of thaemine g4 which is pretty rough. Behemoth also continues that trend so as long as you get past kaya your summoner should feel pretty good. As for an alt character, if you choose to go spec/swift its quite a low investment alt from the summoner side, you can basically go full 7's and slap on a level 9+ gem on Akir and youre good to go. Summoner also offers quite a bit of utility compared to sorc which can be quite handy if youre pugging some lower level raids like Akkan and Brel that have stagger and/or weakpoint checks and is super useful in Voldis (esp g4) if youre playing with people you dont really trust. Also if youre talking about the buffs we got several months ago the removal of the ready attack tripod on summoner made the gameplay way more chill and less punishing so that can be quite nice if you havnt experienced it yet.

@@delay8848 thanks for the reply! But yeah still thinking about it. I remembered summoner being really fun cuz i did play some NM akkan with her while the free engravings was still up, and she was pumping b4 the buff. I just love how the new sorc works b/c its not as back loaded dmg as it used to be. For summoner, do you tend to lose to sorcs in raids or do you feel on par with them? I have yet to see any summoners in HM(Thae or Echid) content or TFM pulling crazy numbers. Theyre pretty much extinct in the west, probably another reason why i wana play her again, cuz shes different.

@@kurt4343 summoner is quite competitive damage wise, you have very strong burst with your 3x akir and your sustain damage is also nice. In very burst focused fights ignite has the edge but in more sustained fights like thaemine g3 summoner will do very well. I think if i had to pick a winner it would be igniter but not by much. I think if i lose on my summoner to an equally geared igniter its not because summoner is weaker, its because of a hand gap. She has the tools to be a top performer her numbers are there, just gota play it well.

@@delay8848 hmmmm, how bout lets add FM SE to the mix since I also see you're very good at that class/spec. Sorc vs SE? sorry for all the questions, they announced a juicy event to push alts and I just wana get it right this time xdd. Looking at my 1600+ lopang alts that I've dropped in the past makes me cry!

@@kurt4343 I find SE to be a more fun spec while also having a more exciting future arc passive personally. SE FM is just very comfy, 7/8 skills are para immune, you have multiple push immune skills as well as one being your counter, which is two hits. Your burst is very fast so you can often use small damage windows. Its just a very comfortable class. The rotation is pretty "boring" but your pink skills can still do decent damage out of igniter so you arnt fully useless like king fist for example. I think full moon is a pretty great alt.

Nah this run was done the last week before echidna. Just didnt upload it till now, gear at the end is just my current gear but apart from the advanced honing its the same.

no or id play sorc.