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Robbed frm being knocked out?😂

robbed of his consciousness

Loma was made built and designed for a guy like Tank Davis. Davis is going to brutally end what's left of lomas career.

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@@hurtfeelings8709 explain how I didn't tell you exactly how the great white hope came about? Please explain pal

I've just watched this again.....the only thing I didn't explain was when jack johnson beat tommy burns (I said tommy ryan). The reason why I didn't know that part in history is because at the time I made the video I was studying Jack Johnsons early career. I literally explained exactly how the term great white hope came about with enough relevant information that was all facts and made the video short enough to consume. You could make a video 300 hours long in regards to boxing history, its just stupid to say I "whitewashed" it, I was compacting it down to get to the point.....there's something called viewer retention, but you wouldn't know about that would you? Maybe you make a video explaining everything and show the world how it should be done....fool 😂

@imperator3649 100% an argument for that. Having that last fight as a loss, and also it being so historic, it tainted his legacy. Jefferies was a special fighter. I still say he was really the first world gloved champ. The reason I say this is because he fought everyone in the division. Corbett beat a old sullivan (not discrediting the win, he had been out the ring for 4 years), fitz beat corbett in his second title defense and jefferies beat them both. The reason I say this is because corbett and fitz didn't defend the title enough. Fitz was world champ at middleweight so il take it back some....corbett didn't defend enough to warrant being a real champ. Jefferies fought everyone in a very short space of time, when he won he said he would fight anyone and he did.....no the caveat None of them should be considered the world champ as none of them fought the best of their era.....the black fights from the coloured belt line. None of them, as much as I love jefferies, shouldn't be considered world champ....but we are getting into social settings now and what the culture was Luke ect, they shouldn't be held accountable fully because it was just culture. I suppose my point is they all deserved it but didn't.....jefferies could have gone down as top 10 greatest if he had fought and beat Johnson in 1905.....he would have won, no question about that Maybe that his loss in 1910 was karma in a way

@@Themozartthug True, but after Johnson won the title he also didnt give black fighters duch as Sam Langford a title shot. He did beat Langford a few years earlier but Sam was young and inexperienced at that point. Johnson claimed that two black men fighting for the title wouldn't be interesting to casual fans as they wanted to see Johnson with a white challenger who could beat him but idk, Sam Langford was demolishing everyone in the ring during that time so he clearly did deserve a shot

@imperator3649 hahahah, I no mate....I wouldn't have minded if Johnson had come out a refused to fight white fighters lol, but even he drew the colour line....crazy times lol. He fought sam Langford 3 times I believe? He definitely fought him when sam was just 17, he obviously won that fight clean

@@Themozartthug They fought once in 1906, Sam was around 20 years old and a lot smaller

Fury and DDD

@@Kasualguise yep, 100% agree

@Kasualguise Nah! Willng to learn what? He still ain't got skill and he's been around for time now. Watch Dubois bang him up proper

@audialiastt2601 you must have great insight pal. 100%, it's great to see hearn and Warren working together. Are you for a boxing league? Thanks for comment pal

@audialiastt2601 absolutely, one of his best performances from memory

@audialiastt2601 agree mate, I was wrong to hate ob the guy 👊

I love the guy, no one changing my mind on that ahaha, I don't no why people get so annoyed? I think alot of it is to do with people not getting him tbh, he's not a bad kid

@Themozartthug In my case, it's be ause I'm an old head. Credit where it's due, though - he & KSI did give boxing a bump with the young uns. Got to appreciate that

@inhop2443 I consider myself an old head....don't get me wrong, when he came on the scene I couldn't stand him, hating the "youtube boxing movement". After a few years, I kept watching him (not his fights) and actually get him now.....he's just a bit of a joker and plays up to his "soiled" image. My step daughters got into boxing because they followed that jo weller and ksi ect, they still prefure watching these youtube fights over legitimate boxers (to my dismay 🤣). I try to educate them, but it's "stap dad talking about boxing again 🥱" lol Don't look at him as a boxer....look at him as a problem, someone who keeps cropping up once in a while to rally up the real boxers, and u got urself a bit of entertainment. I don't see him as a boxer, I see him as someone who challenges boxers and it pisses everyone off....and he knows it! That's what makes me laugh

They both faught jack munroe. Jefferies in 1904 and johnson in 1905. Jefferies absolutely destroyed him in 2 rounds. Johnson went the distance in 6. So......1905 fight, if it happened, 100% jefferies. He was so strong, he was just too good. Everyone agreed at the time there was no man who could beat him. I think jefferies prime was 1900/1905, he beat fitz twice and corbett, he cleaned up the division and it's good to note that around 1903/1905 when johnson started calling him out, johnson was a massive draw. He was slowly becoming a draw but had long, quite boring bouts, were as it seems around that time jefferies was just on fire. I suppose my point is if they had faught in 1905, instead of jefferies drawing the colour line, he would have won, no doubt in my mind. I just think jefferies was a very special fighter. I dont know johnsons prime years as of yet because I'm only up to about 1906 in his career.....johnson was a different kind of fighter, a points fighter really. Well, in his early career it seems. He just seemed to be a fighter that gave what he needed to get the win and no more. It's definitely a subject I will explore once I have enough understanding of johnsons career Boxing history is fucking awsome isn't it hahaha (I love these kind of chats 👊)

Hahaha. You people when usky keeps you think he doesn't understand what he does. Let you hands talk in the ring not mouth. Tyson fury won't beat usky I will remind u

Hahah, I'm post almost every day. I sometimes post to "non subscribers" so I don't bore the death out of my subs 🤣🤣🤣 Also been busy at work this 2 weeks.

Ohhhh dude, I just realised why u said that hahaha.... I forgot I said what I did at the beginning hahahaha

@@Themozartthug Hey, someone has to pay attention: should be you, but I'll do it for ya! :)

@@DBCHeavyweightBoxing hahaha, true brother 👊

100%, it was only 10 years before when bare knuckle was still being practiced. I can't guarantee it, but I presume all the trainers/managers of the fighters going into 1900 were all old bare knuckle fighters. Obviously corbett beat sullivan in 1892 in the first gloved fight, but it was transitioning through the 1880s (I presume) Marquess of qweensbury was first introduced in the 1860s (off the top of my head?) But it just didn't catch on. I think the bare knuckle guys just didn't want to use gloves and stuck to "traditions" essentially. Eitherway, fitz, corbett, probably not so much jefferies.....but they would have had ties to bare knuckle guys. Also the 20 round fights and stuff were still from bare knuckle. 30/50 round fights were still fought in early 1900s Great historic fight

I just watched the video again because I forgot exactly what happened.....this was a seriously good fucking fight! Definitely brutal Jefferies becomes the champ!

@@Themozartthug I'm reading pugilistica currently (its a huge book with three volumes) I havent even gotten into nineteenth century boxing yet so im not very knowledgeable on the transitional period of 1860s to 1900s but i think Marquees of Queensberry rules was adapting quite fast as it didnt have reputation of being as brutal as bareknuckle fighting so it was way easier to be taught to fight with gloves on. Oh and great boxers of the period such as Billy Edwards, Mike Donovan, Larry Foley or even John L Sullivan himself fought more often with gloves

@@Themozartthug Also theres a video of Billy Edwards sparring Mike Donovan on youtube. Its really interesting because although its not the oldest recorded fight, they're the oldest fighters (both born in 1840s, almost 20 years before Fitzsimmons) to be filmed and they were both really good, scientific fighters for their time

@imperator3649 yes, I'm not 100% around that time period. I didn't realise john l sulivan fought with gloves? (Apart from the corbett fight), I just presumed he was bare knuckle through and through. The funny thing was, when I started this road to Ali I was just going to study liston to understand how good ali was. Then I started trading the lineage back.....and back.....and back hahaha, untill I ended up with sulivan vs corbett, that's when I started the series. I had to stop somewhere! So before that fight, I'm not too sure about the bare knuckle history. Certainly the qweensbury rules helped bring money to the sport. I know bare knuckle was seen as "brutal" and "back street fighting" and fights were held in fields or on barges out at sea to avoid the police. The hortan act, kind of explained in this video, allowed for boxing to be held in regulated venues.....which ment they could controll the fights much better, sell tickets, promote openly ect, it brought a lot of money to the sport. (From memory) sharky vs corbett was massively fixed and that's why they abolished the act allowing fights to be held at venues. Basically stating that all the fights where fixed ect ect, it basically ment going back to the old days of fighting in fields and changing location on the day to avoid police interference. Obviously when the hortan act got abolished they some how carried on fighting in venues and stuff Good luck with the books, sounds like a great set!

Appreciate the comment mate....yes, I've heard a lot about jo gans. I would love to follow the lineage through the other weight classes...but ones enough as it is! 🤣, I never realised how big of a task it really is hahaha, it's going to take at least a year, probably longer! 😅

@@Themozartthug No rush there, but check these guys out you won't regret it. Maybe a new series after you finish this one?

@imperator3649 yeah have thought about a new series following the lighter weights division....I would probably like to do a series leading up to suger ray robison as he is considered on the greatest P4P. Il be honest, I didnt realise how complex this would get lol, I thought it would be over in a few months hahah, I just didn't realise the rich history boxing has. I came into this to basically learn myself and thought I would share it. I don't get hardly any views on these historic fights which is a shame because there is so much to learn from history. Jack johnsons life is crazy, so much fun learning....he was definitely ali before ali, everything he said and the way he acted was soooo far ahead of his time. If he was born in alis day, I have no doubt he would have had the same impact ali did.

@@Themozartthug Well, you've got yourself at least one sure viewer by now. I like how you dont write off old timers saying they're primitive and not effective. Also regarding heavyweights, you'll see heavyweight boxing at its peak when you get to Joe Louis who in my humble but a little controversial opinion was better than Ali

Yes, good fight there. I feel AJ is probably too strong for him atm, but zhang is a big boy! Lol

99% pal....can never write the gypsy king of no matter what hahaha, he also manages to find a way (just not in uysk case)

Yes, I made this video just before it was confirmed...for some reason it didn't upload!

Haha, thanks for clarification

@@Themozartthugwent to the golden sun swimming pool yesterday it’s amazing proper chilled out nice and totally peaceful no racing for sunbeds 11 people there when we were there bliss❤

@colinfielden7738 such a nice hotel isn't it

@@Themozartthug oh yes anyone who can afford to,this is chilled I just got a little taste😎🌴👍

Thanks dude, great insight jack johnson had.

Just sent u an email matey I've seen a recent video on the bag, he's looking good actually lol, who knows how much he had!

Speed?? It's ok for the comedown 👌

Thanks dude, if it helps then the vid was worth it

🤣 I recorded this when I was camera shy, even recording my voice scared me. I'm not myself on my early vids, watch some of my boxing vids and I'm much better now

Yeah, I didnt want to learn it in a different key....I think when I slowed it down it changed the key of the song

Great insight pal, really nice input. I think DB has this, but it's no easy walk. Pure boxing will definitely work against DB, like i said, you dont wana fight his fight! I think moving up might actually helps DB, maybe he will need a few fights to settle into the weight, but it's clear from a young age he was always a heavy guy! Anyway, all speculation. What I do know is it will probably be DB hardest fight to date, or at least the one that puts him out of his comfort zone!!! 👊