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Basketmakeratlatl
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We are two experimental archaeologists with research foci on ancient hunting tools and combat weapons, namely the atlatl and dart. On this channel, we describe artifact replications and experiments, as well as inspiration we have drawn from studying preserved artifacts, primarily found in North America but also in other parts of the world. Visit our website, Basketmakeratlatl.com, for more information.
Obsidian atlatl dart point VS beef rib
Using a Chronos 1.4 camera to capture an obsidian dart point impacting beef rib set in gel at over 4000 frames/sec. The result is a bending-initiated longitudinal fracture and extensive crushing. The point initially crushes at the tip, compresses and buckles under the sustained force, and explodes, leaving shards in the rib and basically splitting the point in half. The base remains in the haft with the sinew bindings partly cut through. Obsidian is a sharp but fragile material (P.S. #minecrafters no you don't really need a diamond pick axe to break obsidian...).
More to come from the full length experiment, in which we deploy other dart point materials as well as arrows.
More to come from the full length experiment, in which we deploy other dart point materials as well as arrows.
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Flintknapping in slow motion
Просмотров 217Год назад
Filming @DonnyDustsPaleoTracks flintknapping Georgetown chert and obsidian using hard and soft hammer percussion. Here we're using a Chronos 1.4 camera and Godox SL100 studio light. The results show how much dust and debris is produced during flintknapping. From an archaeological perspective this is interesting, as some states require new archaeological sites to be recorded based on finds of on...
Hafting stone points after archaeological examples
Просмотров 8302 года назад
This video demonstrates how to haft stone projectiles using modern tools but following traditional procedures, as evidenced by archaeological finds in North America. Tools you need include a sturdy fixed-blade knife (here I'm using a morakniv106) and possible sandpaper and a fine-toothed rasp to clean up knots. Materials you need include hide glue (for convenience I use Titebond Genuine Hide Gl...
Fletching arrows using a simple Southeastern technique
Просмотров 12 тыс.3 года назад
I demonstrate how to use modern tools to fletch river cane (also applicable to wood) arrows using a technique present on Native American arrows in the Southeast and Midwest. I typically use turkey tail or secondary wing feathers for this and save primary feathers for atlatl darts (see my other video on radial fletching for atlatl darts, also applicable to arrows). I have also used crow tail fea...
Making simple leather broadhead covers
Просмотров 5363 года назад
In this video I demonstrate a method to make organic leather broadhead covers for traditional archery hunting. I enjoy carrying my arrows as I demonstrate in a previous video and these covers make this activity far safer. While hide glue is water soluble these would have to get significantly wet for the glue bond to release.
Making Cane and Bamboo Arrow and Atlatl Dart Mainhafts
Просмотров 4,2 тыс.3 года назад
In this video I use modern hand tools to make river cane and bamboo atlatl dart and arrow shafts with hardwood foreshafts that are tough, organic (with the exception of the tips), and relatively simple. Scroll down for the chapter listing. Also, see my other videos on how to fletch darts and arrows. Native river cane (arundinaria gigantea) is extremely important both culturally and biologically...
The Best Hunting Quiver for Wooded Environments... Or Not
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.3 года назад
Quivers can be useful when you need to carry a lot of arrows and people prefer different designs. I show the type I've found to be most effective for hunting in wooded environments, plus an alternative I've come to prefer; carrying arrows in the bow hand. This was common practice among many Native American archers. I hunt with traditional southeastern bows (Cherokee, Catawba, etc) which are fla...
Judging Accuracy with an Atlatl
Просмотров 7 тыс.4 года назад
This video is meant to provide an honest look at accuracy with an atlatl. I don't doubt others could hit the target with more consistency, but the ranges that work for me personally are consistent with ethnographic accounts. Hunters in preindustrial societies generally try to get close to prey with whatever weapon they're using (bow, atlatl or javelin). Indigenous atlatl hunters in 10 different...
How to fletch an atlatl dart using the three vane radial method
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.4 года назад
I demonstrate the common fletching method using three feathers split along the rachis. This can be used on any natural dart shaft material, and can be adapted to arrows as well. Trimming a feather is about like trimming finger nails with a pocket knife, so your blade needs to be sharp. You also need scissors, linen thread, hide glue, and shellac to coat the bindings. This method produces solid ...
Atlatl operation in slow motion: Mountain throwing
Просмотров 5 тыс.4 года назад
These shots were filmed with the Chronos 1.4 high speed camera at a little over 1000 frames/sec. River cane darts and black locust atlatl. Equipment produced in Arkansas, now experiencing the low drag of Colorado mountain air. More on ancient Native American atlatls: basketmakeratlatl.com/
The purpose of fletching and practicing with fletchless darts
Просмотров 8914 года назад
I give a brief overview of what makes a fletched or unfletched arrow or atlatl dart fly straight, then practice throwing fletchless darts to work on form. My new method for making darts and arrows using glues and strings available through the global market involves all organic components, including shellac, which of course is a resin secreted by the lac bug. No more worrying about loosing darts...
How to make simple and affordable Basketmaker atlatl darts from dowels
Просмотров 7 тыс.5 лет назад
These darts are easy to make and cost about $2 each. They mimic Basketmaker darts from the ancient Southwest. I make a lot of them and use them for public demonstrations where participants get to try out atlatls. With some use the foreshaft connection and the mainshafts get a little crooked, but they are easy to straighten. The method shown is a variation on the original described in, "Ray's Lu...
How to throw with a Basketmaker atlatl
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.5 лет назад
Justin Garnett (BasketmakerII on RUclips) and I demonstrate how to throw with Basketmaker atlatls from the Southwest. The same general principles apply to throwing with all atlatls. Maintain a light grip on the dart so it leaves your hand as soon as you start to throw, and it will exhibit straight flight in the direction you have it pointed. This comes from many years of teaching students to us...
The Ballistics of Archaic North American Atlatls and Darts, Video 1
Просмотров 2,5 тыс.8 лет назад
Video 1 referenced in Devin Pettigrew's 2015 thesis, "The Ballistics of Archaic Atlatls and Darts". Three sequences of slow motion video are compiled to help explain 1) basic motions of launching a dart with an atlatl, 2) characteristics of darts in flight, and 3) the transverse wave effect that leads to oscillation in the dart.
Woodworking with a Hatchet - Norlund vs Japanese ax
Просмотров 11 тыс.9 лет назад
This is a how-to video in which I demonstrate primary reduction using hatchets for woodworking, a good method when using hand tools.
Atlatl flexibility and dart flight--atlatls are levers!
Просмотров 2,8 тыс.10 лет назад
Atlatl flexibility and dart flight atlatls are levers!
Trimming feathers for atlatl dart fletching
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.11 лет назад
Trimming feathers for atlatl dart fletching
I make mine out of 7/16" four-foot poplar dowels. They hold up better than pine. I use one drilled three-inch piece of bamboo for a joint sleeve and add a six-inch extension to the four-foot section. I use a drilled four-inch bamboo sleeve as a foreshaft socket. A carbon fiber 20-inch crossbow bolt serves as a foreshaft. I use plain old blue masking tape to size the bolt up to 7/16ths in the part where it inserts into the bamboo sleeve. I reinforce the sleeves with artificial sinew. My fletches are made of aisle marking tape. When the smoke all clears, the dart, foreshaft and all, is 74 inches long. Not as authentic as my seven-foot cane 'show' dart, with turkey feathers and antler point, but will hold up to the rigors of the hundreds of throws I needed to get to where I could hit the broad side of a barn. (I darn near gave up on the whole idea but began to see some improvement in accuracy at around throw number six hundred.) Eight or nine hundred throws later, the barn wall target hits have now become coke can hits about three times out of five from ten yards. That is good enough for cottontail rabbit hunting around here. Finally! My beautiful mammoth-killer dart hangs on the wall. It is there in case I ever run into a mammoth.
Great analogy cutting the shaft of the feather is just like trying to cut fingernails with a knife
I"m not sure but didn"t they use tail feathers for this tecnicque?
That looks like hours of fun. And trash talking 😉
Are those secondary feathers? or tail feathers, if you mentioned this in the video I'm sorry. Also I shoot a short recurve (supermag mag 48), and I am interested in shooting assisted pinch grip. Is it hard to find an anchor spot on your face? Any problems with the string hitting your nose? Thanks Eric
I make my darts with a golf tee as my nock that I drill out and as my point end I glue in a carbon arrow shaft cut to length so I can screw bin field points broad heads or judo points depending on what I am hunting or practicing on
Great video, thanks 👍
Me and the chaps on a Friday evening
Thanks for the video! I will use this style on my next set of arrows. Good that you mentioned using a scissors. I've seen a lot of videos where they use a knife and been wondering why they didn't use a scissors.
have you ever taken game with that setup?
One of my favorite Atlatl shorts!!
Brilliant, thanks for the content
It should be in the Olympics. 😎 Its one of mans oldest tools
RUclips Moche Toss 😁 I like the music
This is so cool, thanks for the video! ❤
good vid, thank you
Я всë видел.
Замедленная съëмка позволяет работать над ошибками. 👍
Super cool! I've done a number of stone point penetration tests and I have found that stone points tend to slip between the ribs on entry on every shot I've ever taken...including actual hunting scenarios where I've shot deer and wild pigs. If the point has ever hit bone, it's been offside ribs or the shoulder blade on the other side. But by then, the point has done its job...
Wait a minute... What's your channel's relationship with Donny Dust?
He's a good friend
We are amigos! Good pals…we’re going goose hunting on Thursday.
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks I see. As a knapping nerd, when I saw your video go up, with footage I had just seen here, a light went on in my head. Have fun on the geese!
wow the speed this things get is insane thank you!
Seen most fletched like this with shoots n shooting board shafts. CANE is easier to split n use 1 feather three arrows.... Sorry I’m sure u all know this but got to say something Other than nice feathers
How do you make your unfletched darts fly so straight? The back end of my unfletched dart always hits the ground when landing and never fly straight. I have been searching for an answer to this problem for a while now. Can't figure it out :(
Hi Simon. It sounds like your darts are doing a backwards somersault. When they come off the hook, is the tip rotating up and back towards you and the tail going in the opposite direction? If that is the case, the most likely answer is that the darts are too stiff. Alternatively, a substantial projection on the atlatl behind the spur can sometimes catch the tail of the dart in the follow-through and force it down, but the effect from this is generally less pronounced than what happens when a dart is too stiff. Whether they are fletched or not, the dart should leave the atlatl with relatively straight trajectory. This is the point of practicing with fletchless darts. Fletchings are there to compensate for more subtle deviations from straight trajectory. I recommend starting out by closely copying the dimensions and materials of darts that are known to work. Check the tutorial on "Making a River Cane Atlatl Dart" on our website or our other video on making cane mainshafts.
@@devinpettigrew9273 Wow thank you i will try to keep this information in mind, also thanks for replying :)
I really enjoy your videos. I would like to see a "judging accurracy with primitive bow" similar to your atlatl one which i constantly send to people as a baseline for the subject. Extremely good work.
It reminds me of Mayan Chitchen Itzel ruin in Mexico with impossibly high “basket ball hoops”.
I spoke to Devin the morning I am posting this comment. You can drill out the bamboo to enlarge thr socket to accept a thicker foreshaft tang.
Amazing!! Excellent footage
Hunting experts
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Saludos desde Perú, tierra de los Moche. Felicitaciones a los Drs. Christopher Donnan y Donna McLelland, grandes conocedores de la Cultura Moche. Felicitaciones también, a todos los que participaron en la recreación del lanzamiento de estólica.
Sasan kvalli nantekitih 👍🏽
I look forward to your experiments!
Very nice looking work Sir.
Ive watched this at least 10 times, love the vid and the music
This looks like he is throwing a live eel.
Australian Aboriginals used spear thriwers and fletchless 6 foot long spears. Very similar to this. Thanks mate
Using a VERY flexible atlat you can use a stiffer dart, resulting is less wobble and less energy wasted, so its more accurate and throws further. I use a very narrow thin strip of bambo to with good results.
I was watching Aussie throwers and their spears seem much more rigid. I played the videos in slow motion and the American darts are much more flexible. It makes me wonder if flexibility is really all that important.
Hey man, I've made a basketmaker Atlatl and dowel darts with success in penetrating the target a few times maybe 4/10 shots penetrated the target while the rest just bounces off with no energy in the dart. Would you have any troubleshooting info for what I might be doing wrong? I know the gear isn't the problem as I've impaled the target all the way through but only once, I've never been able to replicate the shot.
Hope you find a deer that will stand still, while you pretend to hunt it. Thanks from St. Paul Minnesota.
I’ve seen this style of fletching done two different ways. One way is like your method where the fletching is cupped in like this () when looking down the shaft. The other way is opposite where the fletchings are facing outward like this )( when looking down the shaft. I hope this makes sense. Does it work either way? I also haven’t figured out what the small flap on the bottom half of the fletching is for?
I’m sure it would work the other way, I’ve never tried the second one but I’d say the first one with the cup facing in () is gunna be a smidge more accurate. That little pocket created by the fletchings facing inwards like that I feel like adds to the stabilization because it traps a little pocket of air in there essentially adding more stabilization due to drag that that pocket creates. I make just as many two fletch arrows as I do three fletch and I’ve shot them A LOT and it’s been my experience that because of that little bit of extra drag these arrows tend to lose speed a smidge quicker and start dropping off a smidge sooner than the three fletch past about at and past about 20 yards but it’s honestly barely even noticeable unless you’re really looking for it.
@@jordannewsom4578 I might have to make some three fletch and two fletch of the same weight and compare speeds over the chrono. However I don’t think I’m accurate enough to compare speeds at 20 yards without putting my chronograph in grave danger.
Is it the natural arc of him in throw and friction making the dart rotate in flight?
Wow, such an amazing sport for hunting practice from ancient South America. I loved seeing this. They're good at it too, many hits.
somehow we tend to believe that the atlatl has to hold spring-energy like a bow... but even no historical atlatl exists where a spring action was visible... they all be stiff...
Thank you for your insight
Impressive I have read that the Teutonic Knights were terrified of atlatls because they could punch straight through armor
Fascinating Archeological news
Have you taken game with these?