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Thank you, I appreciate it! Maybe not an instructor but I am hoping to become a coach one day! (hypermobile joints where my shoulders love to slip out of the socket if pulled the wrong way. Funnily enough, belly flying put it in the worst position where I feel they are the weakest and are more prone to popping out so I usually belly fly with my arms lower than 90° to the shoulder like mantis position) Spotting and catching people wouldn't be a great idea because of this but I would still love to teach. =D

A good coach should watch your videos back and explain the biomechanics of what you are doing right and wrong. The expensive bit is the air time the priceless bit is the objectives and post analysis. Good luck 👍when you get onto layouts and head down performance anxiety and tension can become an issue. Gymnastics and yoga are absolutely the best out of tunnel activities to help.

Thats awesome! Always feel free to reach out if you need any advice on anything. If you're like me and just wanna talk about flying all day long, my discord is always open as well :)

Thanks! Ill try to post a few here and there, im just so far behind its pretty daunting to try to catch up to where I am now...

@@WigglyFlies Do a video that just gets you back current! No one cares! :P Your videos inspired me to keep flying/training past backflying - kneeflying, etc... Now I am about to start on some layouts... Share again soon!!!

Thats awesome! sorry for the very late reply, would love to hear where your'e at now!

it is like some $ 350-650 per hour of air-tunnel flying time if you are a student plus a coach fee $ 100-150 per coaching hour, pending on location on the Globe.

Really depends on the tunnel you go to, for my tunnel it costs roughly $160 CAD per 10 minutes (including coaching). Not a cheap sport but so addicting so its honestly worth it to me.

Its not a cheap sport, I paid about $150 CAD (not including coaching) when I was first starting. 20 minutes is a lot of time though for your first time. I did about 10 minutes per week every Friday for a while and I was super sore the first few times.

Cool!@@WigglyFlies I'd definitely like to try that out at least once

From 2021....she's probably Level 6 by now.

Thanks so much! might take a while to see new stuff but ill post it eventually :)

Yep iFly Calgary :) This was back in 2021 but I still fly with Dustin to this day :D

Both in a sense When you’re skydiving you don’t really know where you’re travelling horizontally because you don’t have any reference points so you’re not worried about drifting as much. Most of the time if you’re solo jumping as well you don’t have to worry about going “up” and “down” (falling faster or slower) so that’s easier. You do have an instructor/coach when you’re skydiving but it’s hard for them to demonstrate and really help you in maybe 50 seconds which makes it harder. At the same time the rig does have drag and influences how you’re flying so if you’re small with rig too big for you like me, it can put you off balance if it’s not sitting right. You also have to learn to get used to the surface area/weight of the rig as well when you’re flying in other positions (back, head up, head down) this makes it harder for me to free fly. In the tunnel you have walls to consider so if you’re drifting you’ll bump into walls and you also have to control your level (up and down) so it’s a bit harder to stay still in one place and be stable. The nice thing about tunnel is you have lots of time with an instructor who can demonstrate and also use the net to make you stable while you learn to move around before completely lifting into the more unsteady air without support and it’s a lot easier to learn simply because you get more time. You don’t have to compensate for wearing a rig however and can really feel and control the way your body flies. I’ve seen a lot of skydivers with high jump numbers but no tunnel time get into the tunnel for the first time full of confidence and wanting to do a lot of free fly but in reality as soon as they get in they can’t stay still for the life of them cause they are used to drifting around and they start to bounce around the tunnel and have to relearn how to control themselves (hard habits to break sometimes) In general though, I think the sky is easier for a beginner to just stay “stable” and even for learning more complicated moves cause you can just huck it without fear of hitting a wall but tunnel fine tunes skills and forces you to be precise (you can get away with a lot more in the sky without needing to be perfect than you can in the tunnel)

Thank you for your answer that was more than I asked for. I start my aff course in May. So I went indoor a couple weeks ago but was so hard for me to stay stable in the tunnel that I almost gave up hope 😂. Anyways thanks for your quick response

@baboebil good luck with your aff! Do more tunnel time it’ll make it so easy! If you can get to the point where you have some foundation on your belly you’ll breeze through it. I passed my aff and got my Canadian solo in 5 jumps (normally takes 10+ jumps to get a solo license) so it’ll really return your investment if you don’t have to redo jumps in the sky lol

Thank you once more for the tips and info I will book so more tunnel time !

Hehe not quite, the air applying force to you and you just have to hold and angle your body correctly to move and stay still, whereas swimming you’re actively moving and applying force to the water to move and to stay still you just stop moving. I’ve seen some people “swim” while flying and flail around and it’s kinda funny

You'll get there! Once you start to feel how to move without thinking too hard about it itll just click for you and its the best feeling :D if you need any help always feel free to ask questions, always happy to help (when I get the time to outside of school/work hehe) I spent 13 years dancing so I have a lot of body coordination that otherwise wouldn't exist.

yes... i also watch these videos with my mouth open... i have just finished my proflyer sessions and i told my instructor about this channel and that i felt like a loser, comparing my progress with wigglys learning. She answered that people are very different in the tunnel, some just need to see the movement once and can easily inherit the movement and repeat it instantly. Others... don't 😂. Mostly dancers or Gymnasts.. ice dancers as well... are super dast learners...For me, i can improve my learning, if i have a proper briefing before and if I know in advance which movement we are going to do. i then can mentalize the movement better. however the importance of this is for instructors not always clear, because they often are the dancers type of learners I think... just seeing and doing it... thank you wiggley for this enzyclopedia. i really like working with it. 😊

@@vergeben Im glad I can help! I hope my progress helps you kinda see what the general progression is like from skill to skill. (with a lot of freestyle sprinkled in) I danced since I was very young till I was 18 and did gymnastics for fun when I was a kid so I definitely have an advantage when it comes to body awareness. Id highly recommend checking out this playlist (ruclips.net/video/YG6JhRacjfU/видео.html) if you haven't already. They're great for practicing at home before you fly. Im also happy to answer any questions when I have time too if you have any :)

Im not confused by the tunnel walls in this video, I just needed to train my muscle memory to get balanced whenever I go HD. The reason I was bailing so much is because when I transitioned, my spine wasn't straight in the HD position so the back of my head caught lift and made me cork. Feeling the balance point just comes with practice which I needed more of at this point. Currently I have about 39 hours in the tunnel and although I am not the best, I still get a lot of insight into what im doing and how I can improve my flying/help others improve theirs so you can still get insight well before your 100 hours. I don't train my tunnel skills specifically to bring them to the sky (although it is nice to be able to). Honestly I much prefer flying in the tunnel as it is more complex in the aspects that I like. I will skydive more in the future with my instructor but for now im very happy focusing on tunnel and freestyle flying.

Thanks! Sorry for the late reply but when I was confident in my belly skills, they let me borrow a tighter Flight School suit that most iFly tunnels have. You generally have to kinda prove you're good with a baggy suit first as its kinda like training wheels and then you can move on to a tight suit. I eventually bought my own suit from DEEM a while later but im really happy with it and its fully custom.

Thanks so much! my advice would to be to really try to pull your knees into your chest, you want your shins to stay relatively parallel with the net so youre using a flat surface to fly on. Knee flying can be quite tricky because its not a naturally balanced position but the nice thing about it is that you can use it pretty much at any speed and especially useful if youre doing VFS at high speeds and trying to make docks. Cup your chest so you are catching the wind to hold you in a more head up position and use the wall sometimes to balance yourself so you can feel how your positioning affects the drives you get you want to make sure your knees are farther forward than your hips too so your point of balance is under you instead of behind you. lemme know if that dosnt make sense cause im sick rn so brain is not working lol always happy to help btw so feel free to ask any questions :)