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Yes! What a treat: My heroes of Low Fruit enjoying Andor as much as I do! So looking forward to season 2. Thanks guys :)

I got the impression Andor never had the 300 to begin with. Also, when he says "tell me what to do", he's taunting him, not looking for solutions

I thought i was the only one who really didn't like ahsoka. I had to watch it twice because I thought i had missed something, and i still hated it. Even as a Rebels fan i thought they got Hera totally wrong. I really have no interest in a second season. I love Andor, but I understand and i don't want every story to be like Andor. I like the unserious fun stuff like Skelton Crew as well. Ahsoka just really didn't do it for me.

No. In the scene with the corpo security Cassian only mentions the 300 credits as bait. I never got the sense that he really had that cash bcz he attacked at the moment we would have found out. Hence, his use of it as a Distraction. Edit Also I disagree that "tell me what to do" is genuine. He's taunting them for ordering him around (about?) earlier. Now, He has the gun.

Regarding Luthen "traps" Lonnie, Luthen was just 100% honest with Lonnie. Eventhough the resistence occasionally was able to have a large impact. The resistence had no hopes in defending Lonnie from the ISB. Like an event like this would cause such a massive reaction during which massive amounts of ressources would be used to find and 'question' Lonnie and the ressistence probably would have been dealt a massive set back, if not worse in the processe. Letting Lonnie leave would have had insane consequences

Andor was the direction that George Lucas should have taken in 1984. STAR WARS worked because it was made for Adults but Children could understand it too. Today's STAR WARS feels like it was made for Children. Andor is the single best thing that Disney has made with Lucas Film.

I never actually watched Asoka before this video, but I started it and had to stop due to every "smoldering intensity" moment that I was forced to point out in The Rock's voice

12:20 that line holds a lot. How many times has Luthen killed off allies in order to boost Lonni's career?

Will you have a look at the expnase ans maby a simal view from difrent people in the world

Andor is a great show and great rundeon of the dialog! I would love more stuff like this!

I forget who said this, but if Saw Gerera is the Rebellion’s version of Darth Vader, then Luthen would be the Rebellion’s Palpatine.

You guys bounce off of eachother in such a wonderful way to watch. I'm sure you guys follow some form of script, but your analysis/delivery comes so natural, it's simply a delight to watch . And the analysis itself is top notch as well! I binged enough video essays about Andor, but this one and the one in which you compare its opening with Ahsoka's are definitely the best I've watched; not because my opinion was validated, but because your insights made me aware of new details/elements that I otherwise would not have noticed/payed attention to and thus could not have enjoyed. How great Lonnie's actor is, is an example of something I simply did not appreciate enough until now. You two are a joy to watch and listen to, and I hope you'll delve into Andor season 2 when that rolls around!

the shape of the elevator door resembles a playing card from Solo/Lando game and Lonnie standing there is like a joker in Luthens hand. He values this card more than 30 regular cards + one king in his other hand...

I’m thinking he’s a former Republic/Imperial officer who committed genocide under orders. Maybe Order 66. Can’t help but wonder if guilt is his driving motivation.

I’m thinking he’s a former Republic/Imperial officer who committed genocide under orders. Maybe Order 66. Can’t help but wonder if guilt is his driving motivation.

I did like Ahsoka but it's clearly not on the same level as Andor Ahsoka had 1 to many problems that prevented me from rating it hire So many scenes happened out of convince, the ending was very rushed, And non of our "female" protagonist suffer any real consequences for mistakes that gets people killed

The writing comparisons between Andor and Ashoka is laughable 😂 Gilroy makes Filoni (or whoever) seem like an amateur at best, incompetent at worst.

21:33 When it comes to loss of humanity, some have compared Luthen's character to a rebel version of Emperor Palpatine. In James Luceno's novel "Darth Plagueis," there is a part of Palpatine that understands humanity to some extent. Although Palpatine is clearly a psychopath, he significantly blames Plagueis for shaping him into the person who, in a fit of rage, murdered his own family. When Palpatine/Sidious assassinated Plagueis in his sleep, he allowed his mind to fill with the furious perspective of blaming Plagueis for everything.

Due to further dilemmas arising from the success of the Ultra codebreaking program, HM Government had to pretend it had no specific advance knowledge of impending attacks on locations such as Coventry and the Isle of Malta. Nazi propagandists even invented a new verb, "coventrieren," meaning "to obliterate something in the manner of Coventry."

A pretty solid analogy for many of the current events in the world today, especially Palestine (rebels) vs Israel (empire).

You guys are great!!! I subscribed.

I discovered Stellan Skarsgard, from his four scenes in 38 seconds of screen time in The Hunt for Red October. He was Captain Tupelov on board the submarine Konavelov. I have made it a personal mission since then to see everything that he appears in, English or foreign language productions of whatever. He is a force of nature on screen and one of my favorites of all time. Larry Olivier, Petey O'Toole, (pre-diva) Marlon Brando, Donny Sutherland, Bobby Deniro (before he just started playing himself in roles), Brad (I'm always eating something in a scene in my movies) Pitt, and Eddie Norton...special mentions to Finney, Mckellan, Stewart, Poitier, Washington, Brannagh, and Mortensen. I tried to list from oldest to youngest, apologies if incorrect.

I'll be honest: Andor is, to me, the most boring show I have ever seen. It's not that it's slow, it's that it doesn't give me any reason to care at all. I didn't feel any emotions whatsoever throughout. I am bewildered as to why so many people claim to love it. I guess because this is their first time as Gen Z young people ever seeing more complex characters depicted, since younger people don't really watch films from before the 80s? I dunno. If you're used to Disney Star Wars, and think something like Black Panther is the height of filmmaking, then I could see how you think Andor is a masterpiece. But as someone that is really into Old Hollywood movies with truly fantastic writing that puts modern Hollywood to shame, I find Andor's writing mediocre. Plus, I am not a fan of realism in film. I prefer the theatrical to the realistic. If I wanted "gritty realism", I would just think back on my memories of being homeless.

The more I think about it the more I agree. Andor isn’t Star Wars, it is far too well written and acted, it lacks the nonsense and abysmally low quality. If you want true Star Wars watch the Acolyte, that is purest Star Wars. Andor doesn’t need the franchise and is great, and this elevates the franchise. Every other entry desperately needs the franchise to do heavy lifting (except perhaps the very first film as that one established the franchise, and that massively benefitted of being very novel). Edit: As should be evident by now I agree. The first Star Wars film is not exceptional per se but exceptional for its time and place, and is understandably and rightfully well loved due to truly gigantic amounts of nostalgia-fuelled love. Andor is arguably exceptional while the rest of the franchise films and series simply is not - at least in a positive way or to such a clear degree.

I don’t think that at this point Luthen is feeling fear. Worry, yes…but fear he likely has abandoned. And that worry possibly isn’t personal but purely operational. Luthen likely has submitted to his chosen purpose entirely.

even so, i think that the s2 finale makes up for the altering of the original trilogy

What’s fifty men? The average heavy bomber group in ww2 have a total compliment of 1,784 airmen and officers n they ROUTINELY suffered 584 casualties and KIA on average per mission In war people die What’s fifty men? Not much in a galaxy of trillions of beings in a total war of annihilation

Luthen's Monologue is essentially a summary of "The Revolutionary Catechism" by Sergei Nechayev.

Tony Gilroy should have been entrusted with a character like Thrawn with his superior writing. Not that hack Filoni!

Tony Gilroy should have been entrusted with a character like Thrawn with his superior writing. Not that hack Filoni!

If I must be brutally honest, I wasn't that impressed by either "Andor" and "Ahsoka". Especially the writing. I think "Andor" is slightly better . . . but only slightly.

Hey, any chance you two both analyse every single scene of this show. Best Commentary ive found yet.

Great takes Would recommend the Saw and Luthen scene: 'Let's call it, war'

My brother, did you really just say "FREH-QUINT"??? 4:59 😮 LOLOLOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Come on, homie. I know you're British, but NOBODY is "that" British. lol

STAR WARS: Ah-Vaginas-Ah-Staring-Ah-At-Ah-Each-Ah-Other.

I agree a show that’s good can be broken down and rewatched to find something new every time. First time watching Andor I had no clue it was going to be good. So regrettably I wasn’t paying attention and was waiting for it to be dumb Starwars content but even the first scene threw me off and each scene was giving me clues that this was different. My conditioning of bad content was so deep it want till the 3rd episode that I realized this is good and I should be paying attention. Anyway great comparison video

If you wouldn't pull the lever in trolley problem just try thinking about what if there were more people on original track

Regarding the 300 credit bribe, I don't think Andor had that money. It was a desperation move to try to distract them.

Andor reminds me of the classic old WW2 OSS spy thrillers. Andor and Rogue One are my favorite Star Wars products of recent years. I saw the original Star Wars in a drive in as a kid. I enjoy the more adult themes in the writing.

It’s verisimilitude. All the more important the more wacky or out there the material.

Luthen's speech is poetry, read as poetry. Wonderful performance. His 'ghosts' bit is also about how he is haunted by those he has killed, and will be haunted by those 50 he is sacrificing to save Lonnie. Its great.

The operative is a well written character. He is a modern day Javert but who doesn't come to understand his errors as his counterpart does in Les Miserable. Edit: I think a good review of a classic like Javert/Val Jean/Thenardier would be a nice video.

This movie was as close to a sci-fi roleplaying game we'd been playing for /years/, as I could ever imagine. If you have never seen Firefly or the movie Serenity, you owe it to yourself to do so! This is what science fiction is supposed to be about! Then check out Ron Moore's 'Battlestar Galactica', and 'The Expanse'! Science fiction isn't about technology, it's about what technology does to people!

The line about sharing his dreams with ghosts is masterful because on the face of it he is saying he is a dead man for what he is doing and that he has no one in his life other than the dead loved ones hes left behind....BUT, if you look a bit deeper into this, theres some pretty strong evidence that Luthen was a Jedi and that he is actually talking to ghosts of fallen Jedi. The complexity of this scene is so amazing because it has so much subtext and nuance that almost all people who watch it will miss because they are casual observers. Great breakdown guys, cheers.

Proposition for the trolley problem: pulling the lever is the right choice because one group or the other are, by design, intended to die. Therefore, the evil of either group being killed is equal and cancels out, as failing to pull the switch still condems the larger group to die, leaving you responsible for the loss of life through your inaction. Seeing as the evil is the same either way, the only reasonable way to approach this is to choose the option with the smallest negative impact from a logical or quantitative perspective. Kind of a rough draft of a thought, may well have been proposed before. Any thoughts are welcome and encouraged.

This is someone re-uploading a video by the channel @rationalityrules and who is deleting posts calling them out. This person is scum.

The Operative knows that what he does is evil, and accepts that he will follow orders and benefit the rulers of a society he will never participate in. That's a hard decision to make but proves how loyal he is.

the US airforce bombed thousands of French civilians because of poor accuracy as they did D-day invasion of Normandy. In the weeks before d-day Allied saboteurs in france was rounded up by the hundreds by the Gestapo because of bad protocols of allied intelligence networks failiures. It was all still worth it to liberate Europe, but those failures and errors was kept secret for decades...

47:10 - Ahsoka finds the map from Treasure Planet!!

No, because Journey before Destination